Cut and Run!

[JohnRich 4]

That place is a disaster!

Every day there are, on average, six murders, 27 rapes, 38
arsons, 180 robberies, and 360 assaults. This repeats itself every day. Nearly 200 people murdered every month. 600 women raped every month. 200,000 violent acts per year!

There are 170,000 criminals held in prison, often for years before any sentence is carried out. Housing these prisoners costs $7 billion per year, or $20 million per day.

And those prisons are filled with scandals. Guards watch while inmates are raped. Correction officers have sex with the inmates.

There is ineffective border control, with millions of foreigners sneaking in illegally, many of whom carry out violence against the citizens. 15,000 of these illegal aliens have been caught and incarcerated, at a cost of $500 million per year.

Random, senseless deaths occur at the rate of 4,000 per year. Thousands more are maimed and crippled.

Electrical power is spotty, where in one recent year, there were 32 days of power outages, despite their best efforts.

The finances are a mess, with a $38 billion budget shortfall - $100 million per day.

The place is bankrupt, crime-ridden, filled with random death, a scandal-plagued criminal justice system and uncontrolled borders.

Where is this place?

CALIFORNIA!

[lawrocket 3]

Man. You haven't even gotten to the BAD parts.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[kallend 2,113]

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That place is a disaster!

Every day there are, on average, six murders, 27 rapes, 38
arsons, 180 robberies, and 360 assaults. This repeats itself every day. Nearly 200 people murdered every month. 600 women raped every month. 200,000 violent acts per year!

There are 170,000 criminals held in prison, often for years before any sentence is carried out. Housing these prisoners costs $7 billion per year, or $20 million per day.

And those prisons are filled with scandals. Guards watch while inmates are raped. Correction officers have sex with the inmates.

There is ineffective border control, with millions of foreigners sneaking in illegally, many of whom carry out violence against the citizens. 15,000 of these illegal aliens have been caught and incarcerated, at a cost of $500 million per year.

Random, senseless deaths occur at the rate of 4,000 per year. Thousands more are maimed and crippled.

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The place is bankrupt, crime-ridden, filled with random death, a scandal-plagued criminal justice system and uncontrolled borders.

Where is this place?

CALIFORNIA!

Gee, that's just AWFUL. Just a few more violent crimes and California's violent crime rate will catch up to (to pick some examples from the FBI UCR for 2005):

Florida
TEXAS
New Mexico
Louisiana
Tennessee
Michigan
Maryland
South Carolina

Maybe they should recall the governor.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[mnealtx 0]

And a few more after that and they'll be getting in the same league as

Illinois
New Jersey
DC

etc...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[kallend 2,113]

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And a few more after that and they'll be getting in the same league as

Illinois
New Jersey
DC

etc...

DC is not a state, any more than Houston is a state.

NJ has a lower violent crime rate than CA or any of the states I listed, according to the FBI.

I am curious as to why JR picked on CA. Seems like throwing stones from a glass house.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,085]

"For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? . . . First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

[kelpdiver 2]

Whole post seems a bit silly, John. The population (36M) exceeds many countries, and its GDP would rank it 6th in the world against all nations.

Many of the numbers/facts are wrong too, but that's beside the point, I imagine.

[NewGuy2005 53]

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Whole post seems a bit silly, John. The population (36M) exceeds many countries, and its GDP would rank it 6th in the world against all nations.

Many of the numbers/facts are wrong too, but that's beside the point, I imagine.

It's a comparison to Iraq.

[quade 4]

No problem John. Just give everybody a gun and everything will be alright.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Lindsey 0]

And still, despite these conditions, nobody has felt the need to invade California to save its people from these atrocities. Hmmmm.

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[billvon 3,085]

>It's a comparison to Iraq.

Hmm. When politicians walk around in LA they don't wear body armor, don't use a dozen troops as shields, and they don't have a few Apaches hovering overhead.

"Iraq is really safe! It's the mainstream media that's playing up the danger. Why don't they say anything about the GOOD things that are going on?"

"OK, take a stroll through a Baghdad market without military support."

"Well, uh, see, I _would_, but I have to go give a talk on how great the war is going . . . "

[mnealtx 0]

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No problem John. Just give everybody a gun and everything will be alright.

Funny you should say that, since CCW holders as a whole commit less crimes than police do....

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Krip 2]

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And still, despite these conditions, nobody has felt the need to invade California to save its people from these atrocities. Hmmmm.

I can't/don't want to speak for john but Ill take a WAG that he picked california due to the situation at their southern border.

Is amnesty another word for cut and run? I don't know maybe JR does.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Whole post seems a bit silly, John. The population (36M) exceeds many countries, and its GDP would rank it 6th in the world against all nations.

Many of the numbers/facts are wrong too, but that's beside the point, I imagine.

It's a comparison to Iraq.

I just haven't gotten what point he was trying to make, and I don't feel the need to play psychic to guess what it might be.

Often this is the case for John (and others for that matter) - put something out there with no actual argument/thesis. But at least John writes it out - too many people here like posting a hyperlink and nothing else - no summary, no context. I tend to ignore those, being just as lazy as the poster.

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No problem John. Just give everybody a gun and everything will be alright.

Funny you should say that, since CCW holders as a whole commit less crimes than police do....

What percentage of legal gun owners are also CCW holders?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[akarunway 1]

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Man. You haven't even gotten to the BAD parts.

Like Compton or Downey maybe? Check out THIS STORY.>http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/did-city-hall-fund-a-gun-runner/16534/ And L.A. gave this fucker 1.5 million dollars. "FEDERAL ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS AGENTS knocked first, then entered the Downey home of purported anti-gang activist Hector Marroquin on Wednesday, arresting him for selling silencers and weapons — including three assault rifles and a machine gun — to an undercover ATF agent.

The gun sales, some of which Marroquin, the founder of the gang-intervention group No Guns, transacted at his bar in the city of Cudahy, were captured on videotape and audiotape, said police officers present at his arrest.

Inside the house, the 51-year-old veteran of the 18th Street Gang surrendered as his daughter’s boyfriend, David Jimenez, a parolee at large, jumped out a window, tossed a gun into the backyard pool and climbed on the roof, authorities said. Officials said ATF agents then confronted him, he climbed back inside and was arrested and charged as a felon in possession of a gun.

Marroquin, an alleged associate of the prison-based Mexican Mafia, has grown accustomed to such intrusions, having been arrested many times over the years while at the same time being the founder and CEO of No Guns, which has received $1.5 million from Los Angeles City Hall via the much-criticized L.A. Bridges program designed by the Los Angeles City Council to keep youth out of gangs."

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[akarunway 1]

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No problem John. Just give everybody a gun and everything will be alright.

See post ABOVE

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[sartre 0]

DC is not a state, any more than Houston is a state.

[Erroll 80]

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No problem John. Just give everybody a gun and everything will be alright.

Or JR could just emigrate to...... ENGLAND!

[freethefly 6]

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Funny you should say that, since CCW holders as a whole commit less crimes than police do....

CCW holders are just as likely to commit a crime as any other person. Legal gun owners are just as likely to commit murder as an illegal gun owner. Solely being legal does not mean that a person has been magically converted to the most law abiding of all citizens. Anyone of us could just as easily turn a 180 and go off the deep end for any given reason and commit a murder. A good friend of mine, Don Meese, never been in trouble his entire life untill one day in 1994. Something happened and, for some reason, he flipped out and put a shotgun in a guys mouth after he made him lie down on the driveway of his house and unloaded a double barrel shotgun in the guys mouth. He is now doing life without parole at Potosi max security prison.
There is not a person alive who can say that they will never be able to commit murder. Given the right (or wrong) circumstance, anything is possible. If you can say, with certainty, what is going to happen, without doubt, in your future, how about cluing me in on some winning lotto numbers.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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DC most assuredly is a state, as a matter of fact.

Would you like to bet $100 on that?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[diablopilot 2]

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Man. You haven't even gotten to the BAD parts.

No shit.


I mean really, didn't everyone get the memo?


I'M back in Cali.

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

[akarunway 1]

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DC most assuredly is a state, as a matter of fact.

Would you like to bet $100 on that?

I'd like in on that wager for $100. DC is most assuredly not a state. They've been trying tho.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[jenfly00 0]

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DC is not a state, any more than Houston is a state.

DC most assuredly is a state, as a matter of fact.

It's also the capitol of the country.

[sartre 0]

Yep, I stand corrected.