Conservation.

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Again, reading your sources before posting them might result in a more credible argument.

Truth is less important to some than it is to others. Besides, you save so much effort if you don't bother!

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>You have a story I did not hear of.

Same story. It has just been so distorted by anti-environmental conservative bloggers that you didn't recognize it.

>http://www.house.gov/...dangered_people.html

Same original story, although the author also notes:

"While this exact situation didn't happen here in Missouri"

So not only is the original story is a lie, the author admits there is no similar story he can quote.

Again, reading your sources before posting them might result in a more credible argument.

You are right to a point. There are details out there I had not yer heard of however, your post does not cover the whole story either. And while this guy made some of his own problems it does not change the fact that the rats like cultivated land better than the undisturbed land so, with a little careful research he would have not be hassled to beging with.

As for the owl, you blew right past that one. Bad research in the name of "saving" an animal when the agenda was to get loggers out of the forest...

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Can't we just hunt things like fish which are not endangered.

Yes they are.
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0704/feature1/
For some reason some people have problems understanding the concept of living a sustainable lifestyle and the consequences of failing to do so. And the sad thing is that the people who are trying to live a sustainable lifestyle pay the biggest price because the wealthier countries steal their resources.

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in this case of course it would be justified. Self defence is different to hunting ENDANGERED species.

So when your life is endangered, then your life is more important than the endangered animal's life. Okay, now I know what your priorities are.

You are a supporter of CCW laws. You have made it clear that you would have no hesitation in killing a HUMAN who was endangering your life.

Yes, but I'm not going around ranting about how valuable the lives of the criminals are.

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>And while this guy made some of his own problems it does not change
>the fact that the rats like cultivated land better than the undisturbed land
>so, with a little careful research he would have not be hassled to beging
>with.

I agree there. As our understanding gets better, we will see fewer of these sorts of mistakes - but there will always be the possibility for mistakes like this. I'd prefer to err on the side of not causing extinctions if we can help it.

There will always be a balance between the needs of humanity and the desire to not mess too much with nature. Indeed, we are coming to realize that tipping things "in favor of man" often has the opposite effect - overfarming results in dust bowls, overuse of aquifers causes no water for anyone etc.