warpedskydiver 0 #1 May 30, 2007 http://www.isra.org/ SPRINGFIELD, Ill., May 29 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA): Nobody expected Saturday's Operation PUSH protest at Chuck's Gun Shop & Range to be anything other than a circus of the bizarre. However, nobody anticipated that an address by a Chicago priest would include a call for the murder of a suburban gun shop owner and legislators who oppose gun control. During an address at an anti-gun rally in front of Chuck's, Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina's Church, exhorted the crowd to "drag" shop owner, John Riggio, from his shop "like a rat" and "snuff" him. Rev. Pfleger went on to tell the crowd that legislators that vote against gun control legislation should be "snuffed" as well. As many know, "snuff" is slang for especially violent murder. The ISRA has a recording of Pfleger's remarks in MP3 format. "Certainly Fr. Pfleger has offered Absolution to a murderer or two during his tenure as a priest," commented ISRA Executive Director, Richard Pearson. "That's why it's shocking to hear him actually advocate the murder of a gun shop owner who has never committed a crime in his life. He then compounds the problem by calling for the murder of legislators who disagree with his personal political views -- something I suspect is a felony in this state. Pfleger's comments were disgusting and dangerous. And, I seem to remember that the Fifth Commandment frowns on murdering one's neighbor." "This week, I'll be penning a letter to the Archbishop, expressing my concerns over Rev. Pfleger's comments," continued Pearson. "I would hope that the Archbishop would reply with words of comfort for Mr. Riggio, his family, state legislators, and all others who were injured by Rev. Pfleger's thoughtless, inflammatory remarks." The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful, and responsible firearms ownership. Since 1903, the ISRA has represented the interests of over 1.5 million law-abiding firearm Illinois firearm owners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 May 30, 2007 Next to Jackson stood Chicago Police Officer Ronald Holt and his wife, Annette Nance-Holt, a firefighter, the parents of Blair Holt. The 16-year-old honor student was shot to death May 10 when an alleged gang member boarded a bus and opened fire on a rival, police said. Michael Pace, 16, and Kevin Jones, 15, have been charged with murder. "I feel sorry for the offenders. My heart goes out to them. They were children," Ronald Holt said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #3 May 30, 2007 QuoteChicago Antigun Priest Calls for The Murder Of Gun Store Owner You're shocked, SHOCKED! that somebody would publically call for someone else's murder. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 May 30, 2007 Jackson and Revs. James Meeks and Michael Pfleger encouraged the crowd to push for stricter gun laws. They vowed that the rally was just the beginning and that civil disobedience was possible. Quote So calling for the murder of a gun store owner who had nothing to do with that incident and did not sell a gun to anyone involved in it is civil disobediance? BTW trying to drag a gun store owner out into the streets to be murdered is not a good idea.Too bad Fleger, Jackson, Meeks, and Farakoon did not lead the crowd in the charge. bang bang, bang bang, bang bang, bang bang. four despots gone in eight shots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #5 May 30, 2007 QuoteToo bad Fleger, Jackson, Meeks, and Farakoon did not lead the crowd in the charge. bang bang, bang bang, bang bang, bang bang. four despots gone in six shots. The ironing is delicious.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 May 30, 2007 Irony served hot all day...just for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #7 May 30, 2007 Quote Irony served hot all day...just for you I didn't know you cared!As for the article, sure it's fucked up but lets face it - "Men of God" calling for murder is at the "dog bites man" end of the news spectrum, not the other way round.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #8 May 30, 2007 Quote Quote Irony served hot all day...just for you I didn't know you cared!As for the article, sure it's fucked up but lets face it - "Men of God" calling for murder is at the "dog bites man" end of the news spectrum, not the other way round. Altar boys must be getting hard to find.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #9 May 30, 2007 Interesting that there appears to be absolutely no context given for the remarks. However strange and disturbing his comments may have been, there will have been a reason for them. One suspects he's being deliberately misquoted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #10 May 30, 2007 Priests have gotten away with fucking little boys...I think they'll probably get away with this... Bastards.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #11 May 30, 2007 QuoteOne suspects he's being deliberately misquoted. Knowing the sheer idiocy that emanates from the Church, I would beg to differ.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 May 30, 2007 QuoteInteresting that there appears to be absolutely no context given for the remarks. However strange and disturbing his comments may have been, there will have been a reason for them. One suspects he's being deliberately misquoted. Feel free to invent some context that could explain the advocacy of murder of citizens and legislators for their views. Really...it's always good to practice this sort of fictional writing should you get hired by one of the parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #13 May 30, 2007 QuoteFeel free to invent some context that could explain the advocacy of murder of citizens and legislators for their views. Our local expert in this writing style would be warpedskydiver who calls for somebody or other's murder almost daily. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #14 May 31, 2007 QuoteQuoteFeel free to invent some context that could explain the advocacy of murder of citizens and legislators for their views. Our local expert in this writing style would be warpedskydiver who calls for somebody or other's murder almost daily. Versus persons like you for whom every crime is deserving of a stern talking-to, unless the "victim" is a non-white, non-heterosexual, non-republican, non-american...in which case crucifixion is the solution...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #15 May 31, 2007 QuoteVersus persons like you for whom every crime is deserving of a stern talking-to, unless the "victim" is a non-white, non-heterosexual, non-republican, non-american...in which case crucifixion is the solution... Please find even ONE SINGLE POST where I said that. You're very good at making grandiose claims about my despicable opinions but you always disappear when I ask what the fuck you're talking about. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #16 May 31, 2007 QuoteThe ironing is delicious. My wife hates it. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #17 May 31, 2007 QuoteQuoteInteresting that there appears to be absolutely no context given for the remarks. However strange and disturbing his comments may have been, there will have been a reason for them. One suspects he's being deliberately misquoted. Feel free to invent some context that could explain the advocacy of murder of citizens and legislators for their views. Really...it's always good to practice this sort of fictional writing should you get hired by one of the parties.So, when you read a handful of words and phrases all quoted separately, do you just assume that they all click together the way an obviously partisan journalist tells you they do? Or do you apply some critical thinking? Try and notice also that I wasn't defending his remarks. Oh, and thanks for the career advice, but the odds of my being employed by either of your major parties are reassuringly low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #18 May 31, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe ironing is delicious. My wife hates it. She's probably eating the wrong colours.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 May 31, 2007 QuoteSo, when you read a handful of words and phrases all quoted separately, do you just assume that they all click together the way an obviously partisan journalist tells you they do? Or do you apply some critical thinking? Try and notice also that I wasn't defending his remarks. I presume nothing. But the same critical thinking you allude to also tells you when it's not necessary to worry about intentional or unintentional slant by the author. As I suggested to you, under what context would these remarks be any less offensive? I can't think of any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 May 31, 2007 QuoteDuring an address at an anti-gun rally... Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina's Church, exhorted the crowd to "drag" shop owner, John Riggio, from his shop "like a rat" and "snuff" him... The Reverend's church website: http://www.saintsabina.org/ A white preacher for a black church. I can't find any statement by him about his "snuff" comment. I'd like to hear his side of the story, either confirming or explaining his calls for violence. The reverend's email address is: pastorpfleger@ameritech.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #21 May 31, 2007 QuoteAs I suggested to you, under what context would these remarks be any less offensive? I can't think of any.Given that it's not clear what was actually said, any comments about his remarks seem premature. If someone could find his speech quoted in full and verbatim, it would be an easier question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 June 1, 2007 May 31, 2007: Last Saturday's Protest at Chuck's Gun Shop on Fox News Channel Tonight at 8:00 CDT This is a quick note to our members and other readers: If you've been following the fallout from Jesse Jackson's protest at Chuck's Gun Shop last Saturday, especially Father Michael Pfleger's inflammatory threats leveled at John Riggio and pro-gun legislators, then you might want to tune into the Hannity & Colmes show tonight on the Fox News Channel. This show is transmitted via cable, satellite, certain broadcast affiliate TV and radio stations at 8:00 pm CDT. If you don't have the Fox News Channel, or don't have a TV, you might be able to listen to a live webcast at www.foxnews.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 June 1, 2007 So did you watch it? Is he a crazed murder advocating nut or DZJ's badly misquoted friend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
