1969912 0 #1 May 16, 2007 They seem to have a kill/hack/dismember spree going on. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272376,00.html "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 May 16, 2007 It has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #3 May 16, 2007 It's the most stressed out culture I have known..... mp "The reason angels can fly is that they take themselves so lightly." --GK Chesterton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #4 May 16, 2007 QuoteIt has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #5 May 16, 2007 Japan is always on the cutting edge of everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #6 May 16, 2007 we always hear about the firebombing and atomic bombs, but few talk about the brutality of the Japanese during the same war, towards any non-Japanese. Beheadings were common, even to the point of a pair of high-ranking officers having a contest to see who could behead the most (one hit 105 in a week, the loser only got 102). America napalm-bombed Tokyo because the culture of Japan at the time didn't believe in surrender, they believed in fighting to the absolute death. Additionally, Japan never ratified the Geneva Conventions, and as a result, horribly treated Americans, with the primary attitude of "We don't take prisoners." Dismemberment has long been a part of Japanese culture. Remember the Ginzu knives? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #7 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteIt has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them. Heck yeah. And glad we did, too. They started the damn war, we finished it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 May 16, 2007 QuoteHeck yeah. And glad we did, too. They started the damn war, we finished it. THere are numbnuts all over that could learn a lesson from that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #9 May 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote It has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them. Heck yeah. And glad we did, too. They started the damn war, we finished it. You are glad hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. Well I think we can safely assume you were cheering over the twin towers as well. And they didn't "start the war" they launched a "pre-emptive strike", but I guess its only a "pre-emptive strike" when you win in the end... or are the US Quote we always hear about the firebombing and atomic bombs, but few talk about the brutality of the Japanese during the same war, towards any non-Japanese. Beheadings were common, even to the point of a pair of high-ranking officers having a contest to see who could behead the most (one hit 105 in a week, the loser only got 102). America napalm-bombed Tokyo because the culture of Japan at the time didn't believe in surrender, they believed in fighting to the absolute death. The Japanese regimes have always been brutal which has what to do with murdering 100,000s of civilians and THEN testing out nuclear bombs on them? and it wasn't just Tokyo Quote Additionally, Japan never ratified the Geneva Conventions, and as a result, horribly treated Americans, with the primary attitude of "We don't take prisoners." American soldiers - Japanese civilians Quote Dismemberment has long been a part of Japanese culture. Remember the Ginzu knives? You guys like to lynch black people is that relevant to 9/11? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteIt has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them. It's probably their collective guilt over killing 30M Chinese and using Korean women as sex slaves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joedirt 0 #11 May 16, 2007 It also has to tell you something about their culture and leaders at the time, since they would not even surrender after the U.S. dropped a nuclear weapon on them. Truman had to do it twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #12 May 16, 2007 QuoteIt also has to tell you something about their culture and leaders at the time, since they would not even surrender after the U.S. dropped a nuclear weapon on them. Truman had to do it twice. I think that's the big point...they wouldn't say "Die." Doolittle's firebombing took nearly as many lives as both Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. Their own lives meant nothing to them; they'd been taught they were nothing all their lives. If they became dead in honor of the Emporer, then their lives had meaning. Otherwise, they were nothing (in their way of thinking at the time). A tougher people never existed. But it doesn't surprise me that some bastardization of old cultural behaviors finds it's way back to the surface. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #13 May 16, 2007 QuoteIt also has to tell you something about their culture and leaders at the time, since they would not even surrender after the U.S. dropped a nuclear weapon on them. Truman had to do it twice. This is a murky issue, in announcing the surrender the Emperor simply declared the war to be over. Military leaders tried to stage a coup of sorts and prevent the broadcast of this message. The Emperor subsequently remained as the figurehead/god despite the defeat, by all accounts this was the major obstacle to an earlier surrender. I subscribe to the theory that the A-bomb was treated as another weapon, and once released to the military was simply used against the enemy as the opportunity presented itself. People tend to overlook how devastating & lethal the conventional low level firebombing was. I also subscribe to the view that the A-bombs saved many more Japanese than they killed in the long run, and who kows what might have happened in the Cold War if we hadn't seen their effect on those cities. It would be a reckless fool who'd undo that little piece of history, terrible though it was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #14 May 16, 2007 Quote It's the most stressed out culture I have known..... My ass, they are not the ones convinced the whole world wants to attack them! They have go on with it it since WW2. They make the best cars, the best electronics and have a very low crime rate. Japanese are cool and know what the word economy actually means. Unlike some countries we know! My family was held as prisoners in Sumatra during WW2 and my father was born in a Japanese war camp. Does our family hold grudges against them? No, we drive Japanese cars, we watch Japanese televisions, listen to Japanese stereos and use Japanese video cameras. I have Japanese friends and they are really nice people that also know what self respect is.. Japan is cool, they have moved on. Some countries still have their heads too far up their own asses to change...and they are still bombing random countries for financial gain because they cant build an 'economy' that is sustainable without mass consumption and war! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joedirt 0 #15 May 16, 2007 You seem to know very little about the U.S. We drive Japanese cars, watch Japanese televisions and listen to Japanese stereos as well. My grandfather kept schrapnel in his head and shoulder for 30 years thanks to a kamikazi, but we don't keep a grudge either. I'm sure you could hear many stories like this from Americans, but I've met very few people from the last two generations of Americans who hold a grudge against the Japanese for WW2. Oh.. and war doesn't help our economy anymore...it may help a few corporations, but not most of the economy. It is costing us money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #16 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. No I think it is amazing that a country can so feverishly have its youth turn to pro-American pop culture ideals after you fire bombed half the country and then tested out nuclear bombs on them. It's probably their collective guilt over killing 30M Chinese and using Korean women as sex slaves. could be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #17 May 16, 2007 Quote Oh.. and war doesn't help our economy anymore...it may help a few corporations, but not most of the economy. It is costing us money. hahahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #18 May 16, 2007 QuoteSo what's up with the Japanese? One of the most beautiful and refined cultures I'm likely ever to witness. What's weird is that there is very little "common-type" crimes. This strange stuff is not all new though.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #19 May 16, 2007 QuoteYou are glad hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. Well I think we can safely assume you were cheering over the twin towers as well. No, you can't assume either of those points. Are you glad the Japanese killed millions of civilians during their conquests? Yes, they did start the war with us. They did it with a pre-emptive strike on Pearl Harbor. Me thinks you need to study up on your history a little bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #20 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteSo what's up with the Japanese? One of the most beautiful and refined cultures I'm likely ever to witness. What's weird is that there is very little "common-type" crimes. This strange stuff is not all new though.Parts of Japanese culture are beautiful and refined. Other parts, like their xenophobia, are rather less so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #21 May 16, 2007 Quote It has to be Americas fault in some way... or at least our little anarchist will blame us. It took him 40 minutes ... he is slacking. He must have got that from American culture as well ... steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #22 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou are glad hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. Well I think we can safely assume you were cheering over the twin towers as well. QuoteNo, you can't assume either of those points. Yes I can, perhaps you missed the part of the conversation (the only part) that went like this Me - The US bombed 100,000s of innocent people You - I'm glad they did You see how that happened? Quote Are you glad the Japanese killed millions of civilians during their conquests? I didn't say I was glad about either event, unlike you. Quote Yes, they did start the war with us. They did it with a pre-emptive strike on Pearl Harbor. Me thinks you need to study up on your history a little bit. Yeah and as I cynically pointed out pre-emptive strikes aren’t considered "starting" the war if you are the winner/US Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #23 May 16, 2007 It's a ninja culture. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites willard 0 #24 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou are glad hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. Well I think we can safely assume you were cheering over the twin towers as well. QuoteNo, you can't assume either of those points. Yes I can, perhaps you missed the part of the conversation (the only part) that went like this Me - The US bombed 100,000s of innocent people You - I'm glad they did You see how that happened? Quote Are you glad the Japanese killed millions of civilians during their conquests? I didn't say I was glad about either event, unlike you. Quote Yes, they did start the war with us. They did it with a pre-emptive strike on Pearl Harbor. Me thinks you need to study up on your history a little bit. Yeah and as I cynically pointed out pre-emptive strikes aren’t considered "starting" the war if you are the winner/US You are dead wrong on both counts. Yes, I am glad we dropped the bomb. I am NOT glad that it resulted in scores of civilian deaths. I am sure as Hell not glad that almost 3000 Americans died at WTC on 9/11 and I resent the insinuation that I am. If Japan didn't start the war with us, then who was it? Please enlighten us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DZJ 0 #25 May 16, 2007 Well, the US were in a de facto state of war at sea with Germany long before Pearl Harbour, but that's a whole other subject... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Zipp0 1 #23 May 16, 2007 It's a ninja culture. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #24 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou are glad hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. Well I think we can safely assume you were cheering over the twin towers as well. QuoteNo, you can't assume either of those points. Yes I can, perhaps you missed the part of the conversation (the only part) that went like this Me - The US bombed 100,000s of innocent people You - I'm glad they did You see how that happened? Quote Are you glad the Japanese killed millions of civilians during their conquests? I didn't say I was glad about either event, unlike you. Quote Yes, they did start the war with us. They did it with a pre-emptive strike on Pearl Harbor. Me thinks you need to study up on your history a little bit. Yeah and as I cynically pointed out pre-emptive strikes aren’t considered "starting" the war if you are the winner/US You are dead wrong on both counts. Yes, I am glad we dropped the bomb. I am NOT glad that it resulted in scores of civilian deaths. I am sure as Hell not glad that almost 3000 Americans died at WTC on 9/11 and I resent the insinuation that I am. If Japan didn't start the war with us, then who was it? Please enlighten us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DZJ 0 #25 May 16, 2007 Well, the US were in a de facto state of war at sea with Germany long before Pearl Harbour, but that's a whole other subject... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
DZJ 0 #25 May 16, 2007 Well, the US were in a de facto state of war at sea with Germany long before Pearl Harbour, but that's a whole other subject... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
