masterblaster72 0 #1 May 15, 2007 from here QuoteBush signed an executive order directing federal agencies to craft regulations that will "cut gasoline consumption and greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." He ordered the agencies — the departments of Transportation, Agriculture and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency — to have the rules in place by the end of 2008. It's cooling off here in NYC this evening. I believe that's because hell just froze over. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #2 May 15, 2007 Quotefrom here QuoteBush signed an executive order directing federal agencies to craft regulations that will "cut gasoline consumption and greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." He ordered the agencies — the departments of Transportation, Agriculture and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency — to have the rules in place by the end of 2008. It's cooling off here in NYC this evening. I believe that's because hell just froze over. Oh the hypocrisy. He's now trying to wear the mantle of Protector of the Environment - because the Supremes told him to stop with the delaying tactics.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 May 15, 2007 QuoteQuotefrom here QuoteBush signed an executive order directing federal agencies to craft regulations that will "cut gasoline consumption and greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." He ordered the agencies — the departments of Transportation, Agriculture and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency — to have the rules in place by the end of 2008. It's cooling off here in NYC this evening. I believe that's because hell just froze over. Oh the hypocrisy. He's now trying to wear the mantle of Protector of the Environment - because the Supremes told him to stop with the delaying tactics. Oh, just admit it, John... Bush could walk on water to save a child from drowning and all you could say is "Bush can't swim"...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErricoMalatesta 0 #4 May 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotefrom here QuoteBush signed an executive order directing federal agencies to craft regulations that will "cut gasoline consumption and greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." He ordered the agencies — the departments of Transportation, Agriculture and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency — to have the rules in place by the end of 2008. It's cooling off here in NYC this evening. I believe that's because hell just froze over. Oh the hypocrisy. He's now trying to wear the mantle of Protector of the Environment - because the Supremes told him to stop with the delaying tactics. Oh, just admit it, John... Bush could walk on water to save a child from drowning and all you could say is "Bush can't swim"... Has the child been drowning for several years and has bush previously refused to sign child saving protocols? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #5 May 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotefrom here QuoteBush signed an executive order directing federal agencies to craft regulations that will "cut gasoline consumption and greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." He ordered the agencies — the departments of Transportation, Agriculture and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency — to have the rules in place by the end of 2008. It's cooling off here in NYC this evening. I believe that's because hell just froze over. Oh the hypocrisy. He's now trying to wear the mantle of Protector of the Environment - because the Supremes told him to stop with the delaying tactics. Oh, just admit it, John... Bush could walk on water to save a child from drowning and all you could say is "Bush can't swim"... Bush had 6 years to do something of his own volition, and did Sweet F.A. He's only acting now because he's been ordered to act.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #6 May 15, 2007 Good for him! If he follows through on this I will be most impressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #7 May 15, 2007 QuoteGood for him! If he follows through on this I will be most impressed. It's pretty much a slam dunk that he will. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #8 May 15, 2007 Quote . . . because the Supremes told him to stop with the delaying tactics. I don't think it was the Supremes. I believe it was Martha & The Vandellas." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #9 May 15, 2007 will he do something about greenhouse gas emissions during jump run? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #10 May 15, 2007 Quotewill he do something about greenhouse gas emissions during jump run? Mandate more balloon and possibly tethered blimp jumps? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #11 May 15, 2007 I was referring to the gas emissions that occur INSIDE the plane. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #12 May 15, 2007 Quote I was referring to the gas emissions that occur INSIDE the plane. It was a joke reply anyway. But couldn't tethered blimps be a solution in the future in a worst case scenario - IE, no gas left for rec aviation? The time to altitude would be much longer, but there would be zero emissions. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #13 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote I was referring to the gas emissions that occur INSIDE the plane. It was a joke reply anyway. But couldn't tethered blimps be a solution in the future in a worst case scenario - IE, no gas left for rec aviation? The time to altitude would be much longer, but there would be zero emissions. How do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #14 May 15, 2007 QuoteHow do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #15 May 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. How about hydrogen? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote How do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. Really? I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. I blame the clowns and teenage kids huffing helium balloons to talk like Daffy Duck.... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #17 May 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. How about hydrogen? Pass, thanks.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #18 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote How do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. How about hydrogen? Pass, thanks. I think we can do it safely now. with new technology/design. TMI is still running (nearby too) after that disaster. And shit, if it starts to burn - you ARE wearing a parachute. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote How do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. How about hydrogen? Pass, thanks. I think we can do it safely now. with new technology/design. TMI is still running (nearby too) after that disaster. And shit, if it starts to burn - you ARE wearing a parachute. Yes... and you ARE familiar with the reaction of nylon to flame, are you not?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #20 May 15, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote How do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. How about hydrogen? Pass, thanks. I think we can do it safely now. with new technology/design. TMI is still running (nearby too) after that disaster. And shit, if it starts to burn - you ARE wearing a parachute. Yes... and you ARE familiar with the reaction of nylon to flame, are you not? Yes, I am. But I'd bet a lifting balloon filled with hydrogen, properly designed, would be no more dangerous than skydiving itself, so there would be no problem. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #21 May 15, 2007 >But I'd bet a lifting balloon filled with hydrogen, properly designed, would >be no more dangerous than skydiving itself, so there would be no problem. Or to be more precise - a well designed aerostat filled with hydrogen would be no more dangerous than an otter filled with fuel, especially given that it must burn it continuously five feet from where you exit the plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 May 15, 2007 There you go, being all logical again... That is a good point, though - I guess I'm more worried about the much larger amount of hydrogen vs avgas... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #23 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. Nonsense - our Sun alone makes 560 million tons of helium every second, and there are about 100,000,000,000 stars just in our galaxy. In fact more helium is produced every second than any other chemical element or compound.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #24 May 16, 2007 QuoteNonsense - our Sun alone makes 560 million tons of helium every second, and there are about 100,000,000,000 stars just in our galaxy. In fact more helium is produced every second than any other chemical element or compound. Wow! With handy industrial knowledge like that you're certain to become a wealthy helium tycoon. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #25 May 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow do you heat the air in the blimp? What's the greenhouse effect of escaped helium gas? I don't believe helium has any particular greenhouse effect but the supply helium is rapidly being exhausted -- and it's mighty hard to make more. Nonsense - our Sun alone makes 560 million tons of helium every second, and there are about 100,000,000,000 stars just in our galaxy. In fact more helium is produced every second than any other chemical element or compound. Come on now, this is supposed to be an "attaboy, Shrub!" thread. Can we somehow credit Dubya with the abundance of helium in our universe? Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
