happythoughts 0 #1 May 13, 2007 I passed a boatyard last week. There was a 35ft boat with three 275hp outboards on it. There was a few with twin 275's. If you really want to talk about using fuel for no good reason, boats are it. Nobody can say, "I need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." It's not an extra 15 gallons a week, it's 40 on just Saturday. Not going to work. There is a line of thought that says, "There is no valid reason for driving SUVs", so the driver catches a lot of grief. Boats and recreational vehicles are next. It is the same logic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 May 13, 2007 Oh WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 May 13, 2007 Was that the well-thought-out, intellectual libertarian response? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 May 13, 2007 Just the proper response it deserved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #5 May 13, 2007 Boats are holes in the water that people throw money into. Some boats are fast enough to be fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #6 May 13, 2007 Quote Boats are holes in the water that people throw money into. Some boats are fast enough to be fun. I agree. That is their value. I've had a lot of them. I just wouldn't want someone defining how I live that part of my life. It seems to be a political goal. This is the next logical step. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 May 13, 2007 QuoteI passed a boatyard last week. There was a 35ft boat with three 275hp outboards on it. There was a few with twin 275's. If you really want to talk about using fuel for no good reason, boats are it. Nobody can say, "I need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." It's not an extra 15 gallons a week, it's 40 on just Saturday. Not going to work. There is a line of thought that says, "There is no valid reason for driving SUVs", so the driver catches a lot of grief. Boats and recreational vehicles are next. It is the same logic. We need more information 1. How many bales can a 35-footer carry? 2. What is the top speed of a Coast Guard cutter? 3. How many HP does a fully-loaded 35-footer need to exceed #2?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #8 May 14, 2007 Quote Quote I passed a boatyard last week. There was a 35ft boat with three 275hp outboards on it. There was a few with twin 275's. If you really want to talk about using fuel for no good reason, boats are it. Nobody can say, "I need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." It's not an extra 15 gallons a week, it's 40 on just Saturday. Not going to work. There is a line of thought that says, "There is no valid reason for driving SUVs", so the driver catches a lot of grief. Boats and recreational vehicles are next. It is the same logic. We need more information 1. How many bales can a 35-footer carry? 2. What is the top speed of a Coast Guard cutter? 3. How many HP does a fully-loaded 35-footer need to exceed #2? Answers to your questions: 1. Not enough. 2. Classified (I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you) 3. Lots! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #9 May 14, 2007 QuoteI need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." When you find a 35 foot triple for 50k let me know. I will take a couple of them. Just the three 275 outboards installed for 50k would be a good deal if they are Verado's. While I agree that many people purchase big boats just for the fun factor(and they are fun), I would not feel comfortable running a large center console powered by a single enging to far out in the sea. Tear up a lower unit or bust a prop shaft in rough seas and then what? Swim? I have been towed in several times after tearing up LU's on inland lakes. And I am not talking about hitting objects in the water for all the non boaters here. Surfacing props can be very stressful the drivetrain and failures do occur. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #10 May 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteI need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." When you find a 35 foot triple for 50k let me know. I will take a couple of them. Just the three 275 outboards installed for 50k would be a good deal if they are Verado's. While I agree that many people purchase big boats just for the fun factor(and they are fun), I would not feel comfortable running a large center console powered by a single enging to far out in the sea. Tear up a lower unit or bust a prop shaft in rough seas and then what? Swim? I have been towed in several times after tearing up LU's on inland lakes. And I am not talking about hitting objects in the water for all the non boaters here. Surfacing props can be very stressful the drivetrain and failures do occur. My last one was a 17 ft ski boat with a 125hp on it. It did 45 mph and burned about 12-15 gallons a day. There's no logical need to race back and forth, or pull skiers. It is just what people choose to do. A person can say that they like to ride in the SUV because they like it. They could even feel a little safer in a crash or that they like to haul kids/friends/stuff around. Boats don't have a reason except fun. They would be easier to ban than SUVs or big RVs. Doesn't anyone worry that they need to justify their choices to "those who know better" ? Libertarians? Liberals? Free thinkers? Where is their voice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyjunkySean 0 #11 May 14, 2007 k I'm curious why does fun have to be "logical"....dude yer a skydiver please explain the logic? I love my boat. only thing I'd rather do than be on my boat is be in the air & I gotta tell ya it gets 110 in the shade in the summer at my DZ & the lake we play at is right under our flight path...anyone wanna hop n pop & go skiin......wait thats not logical...k just thought about it....would rather be havin sex on my boat in the sun...k yup thats what I wanted to say Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #12 May 14, 2007 Exactly. Fun doesn't have to be logical. Neither do half the reasons how we choose to live our life, but we should get to make them. That is my point. I don't think that other people should tell us how to live or force choices upon us. First, people complain about the gas mileage on a car/truck. Then, it is RVs, then boats. Airplane rides are next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #13 May 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." When you find a 35 foot triple for 50k let me know. I will take a couple of them. Just the three 275 outboards installed for 50k would be a good deal if they are Verado's. While I agree that many people purchase big boats just for the fun factor(and they are fun), I would not feel comfortable running a large center console powered by a single enging to far out in the sea. Tear up a lower unit or bust a prop shaft in rough seas and then what? Swim? I have been towed in several times after tearing up LU's on inland lakes. And I am not talking about hitting objects in the water for all the non boaters here. Surfacing props can be very stressful the drivetrain and failures do occur. My last one was a 17 ft ski boat with a 125hp on it. It did 45 mph and burned about 12-15 gallons a day. My last (and only) boat was wind powered.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #14 May 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI need something that costs $50K to catch fish. Look at the money I save." When you find a 35 foot triple for 50k let me know. I will take a couple of them. Just the three 275 outboards installed for 50k would be a good deal if they are Verado's. While I agree that many people purchase big boats just for the fun factor(and they are fun), I would not feel comfortable running a large center console powered by a single enging to far out in the sea. Tear up a lower unit or bust a prop shaft in rough seas and then what? Swim? I have been towed in several times after tearing up LU's on inland lakes. And I am not talking about hitting objects in the water for all the non boaters here. Surfacing props can be very stressful the drivetrain and failures do occur. My last one was a 17 ft ski boat with a 125hp on it. It did 45 mph and burned about 12-15 gallons a day. My last (and only) boat was wind powered. The only boat I ever owned was oar powered. Add wind power if it happened to be going the same direction I was but the transom and my chest don't make good sails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #15 May 14, 2007 I just finished rehabbing a 1956 Glasspar Sport Lido, and I can tell you for certain that boats eat money. But, for $150, some wood and fiberglass, and an aching back, I got a classic back on the water. Only 20 HP though, and I already want more horsies.... -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #16 May 14, 2007 Quote I just finished rehabbing a 1956 Glasspar Sport Lido, and I can tell you for certain that boats eat money. But, for $150, some wood and fiberglass, and an aching back, I got a classic back on the water. Only 20 HP though, and I already want more horsies.... I have a buddy who has long had a fascination with wooden boats, (preferably Chris-Craft). After seeing how much labor it takes to maintain one, I have determined that any toy that requires more time in maintaining it, than using it, just isn't for me. However he has turned his addiction into a job, and has been servicing other peoples wooden boats for some years now."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #17 May 14, 2007 The Glasspar is mostly fiberglass. The wood that I replaced was in the deck(then covered with fiberglass) and the core of the transom. I still have a few small mechanical glitches to fix, but when done, I pray that the maintanence is done, for a while at least. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites