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Why did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday?



Either you're putting words in my mouth to defeat a silly argument I never made, or you need a primer in reading comprehension. The word "foreign" never appeared in my post. But if you put on your long-disused thinking cap and apply a colossal effort of concentration you might realize the phrase "a dozen countries" could possibly include the United States.



Careful of this tactic that is being employed against you. The topic you speak of can not be easily debunked so you are being drug off topic instead.
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The co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, finally admits "global warming" is a hoax, and now says African countries should be encouraged to burn more CO2.

If the founder of Greenpeace can see the truth, why can't you?


On Tuesday of this week Patrick Moore wrote an article in the Calgary Harold in which he said, "I now realize nuclear energy is the only non-greenhouse gas-emitting power source that can effectively replace Canada's growing demand for energy."
Moore became a corporate shill about ten years ago.
Here is his website:http://www.greenspiritstrategies.com/D54.cfm

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That [vegemite] is Australia.



Um...vegemite is sold right alongside marmite in your overpriced stores. But from what I've heard on the news your train stations now appear to be selling dynamite as well.

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The film proves nothing. The film presents one side of the story. It is not a definitive answer.


Are you talking about Algore's Inconvenient Truth?
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Now if we could burn nitrogeon [sic]



Um...you can burn nitrogen. Titatnium burns in pure nitrogen at 1472°F with a green flame to form titanium nitride, TiN. Workmen used TiN-coated drill bits to build the schoolhouse you flunked out of.
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Moore became a corporate shill about ten years ago.




Actually there's almost no private sector investment in climatology. However, there's TONS of money from left-leaning institutions funding the global warming alarmists, while censoring and intimidating its critics. How's that for an inconvenient truth?
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>Now if we could burn nitrogeon.....

Careful there! Burning nitrogen could release nitrogen into the atmosphere. And that sounds more dangerous than dihydrogen monoxide.



That shit'll kill you quicker than "natural causes"!
1 out of 83,500 people each year succumb to it.
I heard they were going to ban it but Congress caved to the bath tub lobby.

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Moore became a corporate shill about ten years ago.



And radical eco groups fund a lot of pro-GW scientists, financially benefiting by proclaiming the sky is falling ("Donate now to save the Earth!") I don't hear you discrediting pro-GW scientists receiving funds from left-leaning institutions.

Perhaps you're mature enough to admit people who believe one side or another are willing to employ those in agreement. Anyway, nice try with the high-school debater's trick of Fallacy of Association, but sponsorship alone does not discredit.
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Careful of this tactic that is being employed against you. The topic you speak of can not be easily debunked so you are being drug off topic instead.



Thanks for the warning Marc, but I wouldn't call it so much of a "tactic" as a fallacy. There's appears no shortage of them on this forum - acres of ad hominem attacks, endless fallacies of association, and bushels of strawmen. (Strawman appears to be the [I]Fallacy Du Jour[/I]...)

But as you say, avoidance of the core issue is telegraphing defeat. It shows even they know they espouse untenable positions and resort to misspelled fallacies when so threatened. Bereft of options they strike like a cornered animal, boldly announcing to one-and-all they've lost the argument before it's begun.
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Um...vegemite is sold right alongside marmite in your overpriced stores.



So what? It is the Australians who are addicted to the stuff, not us. The general opinion in the UK is that Vegemite is roughly similar in taste to liquid excrement straight from the devil's arse.

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Are you talking about Algore's Inconvenient Truth?



Both. They are both propoganda pieces, and to treat either one as gospel truth would be rather foolish.

BTW, I skimmed through the GW doc and could not find where Moore called GW a 'hoax.' I may well have missed it so could you tell roughly at what time on the vid he does this? Thanks.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Thanks for the warning Marc, but I wouldn't call it so much of a "tactic" as a fallacy.



A fallacy to say that other countries are foreign? What a strange definition of fallacy you use.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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>Now if we could burn nitrogeon.....

Careful there! Burning nitrogen could release nitrogen into the atmosphere. And that sounds more dangerous than dihydrogen monoxide.



The chemical compound digydrogen monoxide (DHMO) has been implicated in the deaths of thousands if not millions over the years. This deadly chemical if incountered in its gaseous form can cause severe burns or even death. Therefore for all of use that are concerned for our fellow man/women/child should insist that all world governments ban this chemical and remove it from the face of the earth.:P

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A fallacy to say that other countries are foreign?



Wow. Simply stunning. You possess a unique inability to follow even the simplest line of reasoning.

I marvel at you sir. For it seems whenever you open your mouth it's only to change feet.
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A fallacy to say that other countries are foreign?



Wow. Simply stunning. You possess a unique inability to follow even the simplest line of reasoning.

I marvel at you sir. For it seems whenever you open your mouth it's only to change feet.



I'm sorry, I'd love to reply to this post fully but right now I can't. You see, I was in the middle of searching for my dusty old thinking cap when a friend from Australia phoned to update me with the latest British news (which I ignore) and he was half way through that when I realised I hadn't had a fix for the last two hours and was absolutely Jonesing for some Vegemite smeared kippers. I went to the cupboard to get some but unfortunately I had isolated myself from the contrary fact that I'd just run out. Frustrated by my lack of options I attempted to lash out (like an animal!) but merely fell over as I had neglected to remove my foot from from its accustomed resting place.

So as you can see, I'm rather busy right now. One thing though, you mentioned something called an ad hominem earlier - what is it?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I'm sorry, I'd love to reply to this post fully but right now I can't. You see, I was in the middle of searching for my dusty old thinking cap when a friend from Australia phoned to update me with the latest British news (which I ignore) and he was half way through that when I realised I hadn't had a fix for the last two hours and was absolutely Jonesing for some Vegemite smeared kippers. I went to the cupboard to get some but unfortunately I had isolated myself from the contrary fact that I'd just run out. Frustrated by my lack of options I attempted to lash out (like an animal!) but merely fell over as I had neglected to remove my foot from from its accustomed resting place.

So as you can see, I'm rather busy right now. One thing though, you mentioned something called an ad hominem earlier - what is it?



LOL! OK, ok, I am humbled by your superiour (note the spelling!) comedic abilities.


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Careful of this tactic that is being employed against you. The topic you speak of can not be easily debunked so you are being drug off topic instead.



Actually the tactic most used on this forum appears to be schoolyard name-calling and vulgarities, cratered with misspellings and bad grammar. And some of it is quite foul…

One fellow saw fit to call me a "fucking idiot", apparently without repercussion: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2794539;#2794539

He's still posting.



And another viciously attacked Christianity by calling it a religion of cannibalism and torture: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2791710;#2791710

Apparently vulgar name-calling is tolerated if it tows the Far-Left party line.

This is the core of the Democratic Party's self-loathing band of left-wingers: anti-American, anti-military, anti-Christian, anti-God (unless it's allah), and anti-death penalty (unless it's a helpless baby.) Still it's nice to keep them around for a chuckle and to remind us where the cliff edge is.

More importantly the camouflage is gone; the pretense is gone. The mask that liberals lurk behind — that you’re the nice ones, the tolerant ones, the compassionate ones — is gone. Forever. It’s all here for one and all to see, from the anti-Christian bigots, to the traitorous radicals, to the expletive-hurling ranters. It's eminently clear this is the sort of romper room you have here.

No wonder this forum's held in such high esteem.
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Did you call it to anyone's attention? The last post in a thread is not going to be looked at for infractions most of the time; once an issue is dead, why would the moderators go looking for trouble?

As far as calling Christianity a religion of torture and cannibalism, he didn't. You inferred that, but it's not what he said. He said that a Christian symbol is a torture device. It's really, really hard to disagree with that. That whole Good Friday thing.

Communion involves the statements "this my body" and "this is my blood." I'd disagree with the term emotionally, but eating body and blood would be called cannibalism. You abstract them from their position in Christianity (which intellectual honesty demands when you talk about a symbol seen by others outside your religion) and it does look that way.

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Careful of this tactic that is being employed against you. The topic you speak of can not be easily debunked so you are being drug off topic instead.



Actually the tactic most used on this forum appears to be schoolyard name-calling and vulgarities, cratered with misspellings and bad grammar. And some of it is quite foul…

One fellow saw fit to call me a "fucking idiot", apparently without repercussion: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2794539;#2794539

He's still posting.



And another viciously attacked Christianity by calling it a religion of cannibalism and torture: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2791710;#2791710

Apparently vulgar name-calling is tolerated if it tows the Far-Left party line.

This is the core of the Democratic Party's self-loathing band of left-wingers: anti-American, anti-military, anti-Christian, anti-God (unless it's allah), and anti-death penalty (unless it's a helpless baby.) Still it's nice to keep them around for a chuckle and to remind us where the cliff edge is.

More importantly the camouflage is gone; the pretense is gone. The mask that liberals lurk behind — that you’re the nice ones, the tolerant ones, the compassionate ones — is gone. Forever. It’s all here for one and all to see, from the anti-Christian bigots, to the traitorous radicals, to the expletive-hurling ranters. It's eminently clear this is the sort of romper room you have here.

No wonder this forum's held in such high esteem.


Ya:( There is a double standard but and my mom and dad tqught me that life is not fair. Says volumes in other ways though.

Hard to believe that "Actually the tactic most used on this forum appears to be schoolyard name-calling and vulgarities, cratered with misspellings and bad grammar. And some of it is quite foul… is not a personal attack[:/]
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Hard to believe that "Actually the tactic most used on this forum appears to be schoolyard name-calling and vulgarities, cratered with misspellings and bad grammar. And some of it is quite foul"… is not a personal attack



Um...calling attention to an infraction does not equal an infraction. You do understand that, right?


Refusing to differentiate between perpetrator and victim is a Cindy Sheehan talking point. Are the police criminals? Is "one's man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter"?
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Did you call it to anyone's attention?



Madam I hope you can understand my reluctance to do so considering your moderator called Christianity a religion of cannibalism and torture: http://www.dropzone.com/...ost=2791710;#2791710

Very brave to attack a religion based upon peace and forgiveness.

Try your hand at libeling the muslums and let’s see your mettle…
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