rushmc 23 #1 May 2, 2007 Now, before you flame this watch (if you can) and it can be discussed tomorrow. Glen Beck is different that Hannity or Rush. Kind of like him. Anyway, we will see who can not resist the temptation to flame away before the show Tonight on CNN Headline News 7 and 9 Eastern http://www.glennbeck.com/tv/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #2 May 3, 2007 All those people are evil deniers! I certainly didn't remember that Gore said he wouldn't approve the treaty as it was. So, for those that are not deniers - how much of the global warming trend does the supposed all in agreement if your not an evil denier scientific community think could be prevented if Kioto was implemented? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 May 3, 2007 Quote All those people are evil deniers! I certainly didn't remember that Gore said he wouldn't approve the treaty as it was. So, for those that are not deniers - how much of the global warming trend does the supposed all in agreement if your not an evil denier scientific community think could be prevented if Kioto was implemented? Hell, I never even knew that Al Gore said that. Another thing that I have brought up is the temp leading CO2 data. To me that is a deal breaker for the GWing alarmists. But his has a long way to play out yet"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 May 3, 2007 I have seen the DDT and nuclear debates recently coming up again too. What great points. And the cost to results description from one of thier beloved. Founder of Green Peace? Priceless. For the flamers, I am still learning. The jury is still out. My postion above all remains that this is "NOT A DONE DEAL". To claim it is, is a insult to science and free speech. But I am leaning strongly toward the denier camp to be honest."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #5 May 3, 2007 Are you saying CNN is NOT a bastion of liberal tree-huggers after all?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 May 3, 2007 Quote Are you saying CNN is NOT a bastion of liberal tree-huggers after all? AAAAaaaahhhh, your are still the cutest on the site....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #7 May 3, 2007 QuoteI have seen the DDT and nuclear debates recently coming up again too. What great points. And the cost to results description from one of thier beloved. Founder of Green Peace? Priceless. For the flamers, I am still learning. The jury is still out. My postion above all remains that this is "NOT A DONE DEAL". To claim it is, is a insult to science and free speech. But I am leaning strongly toward the denier camp to be honest. I had more respect for your honesty when your anti-GW statements were strident and your dogma unblemished by reason.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #8 May 8, 2007 Actually global warming alarmists are the minority. Want proof? Name any law Congress passed to combat this farce. Hint: It's a number < 1. For extra credit, name the # of senators who voted for Kyoto. Hint: It's also a number < 1. And a survey on climate change conducted in more than a dozen countries found that a majority of Americans don't think a "global warming crisis" is real. The survey was conducted by The Chicago Council on Global Affairs."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #9 May 8, 2007 >Name any law Congress passed . . . . You are confusing politics and science - a common mistake. Name any law that Congress has passed supporting the theory of relativity. Does that mean relativity does not exist? >And a survey on climate change conducted in more than a dozen countries >found that a majority of Americans don't think a "global warming crisis" is real. Yale poll - 63% of americans think global warming is a bigger threat than terrorism Zogby - 74% of americans think anthropogenic global warming is a reality FOX - 82% of americans think global warming is happening. Of those, only 14% think it is mostly or entirely natural. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #10 May 8, 2007 The Pew Research Center poll released in January ’07 shows the number of people believing global warming requires immediate government action declined by 6% from just 6 months earlier. In addition the majority DON’T BELIEVE human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels causes global warming. Thanks for playing, what do we have for 'em Johnny? "Your parting gift is to be remembered alongside the kooks believing in Y2K, acid rain and global cooling." "Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #11 May 8, 2007 The co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, finally admits "global warming" is a hoax, and now says African countries should be encouraged to burn more CO2. If the founder of Greenpeace can see the truth, why can't you?"Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #12 May 8, 2007 Apparently Algore has different definitions of “science” and "fact" than the rest of the English-speaking world. I urge him to publish his dictionary; I’d love to see his definitions of “junk science”, “media hoax”, and “eco-nut.”"Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #13 May 8, 2007 Of course liberals have to believe man caused global warming - man's the only thing on earth that can pay taxes. Liberals would love to send God a tax bill, but they'd have to believe in Him first."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 May 9, 2007 You are confusing politics and science - a common mistake. Name any law that Congress has passed supporting the theory of relativity. Does that mean relativity does not exist?Quote I think this statement would be correct execpt for the fact the the closer one looks the more one realizes there is no science behind the claims that man is causing GWing or that he can stop it."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,595 #15 May 9, 2007 QuoteAnd a survey on climate change conducted in more than a dozen countries found that a majority of Americans don't think a "global warming crisis" is real. Why did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,595 #16 May 9, 2007 Quote The co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, finally admits "global warming" is a hoax, and now says African countries should be encouraged to burn more CO2. I can't find where Patrick Moore has ever called global warming a 'hoax'. Saying that global warming concerns should not stop us from providing African countries with fossil fuel powerstations is very different from saying global warming doesn't happen. BTW, we don't burn CO2.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #17 May 9, 2007 Quote Quote BTW, we don't burn CO2. Well, no WONDER there's a problem... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #18 May 9, 2007 >BTW, we don't burn CO2. sssshh, he's on a roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoilingMidnight 0 #19 May 10, 2007 Quote Well, no WONDER there's a problem http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_documentary Fourth sentence down; their words not mine, my man."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoilingMidnight 0 #20 May 10, 2007 QuoteWhy did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday? Either you're putting words in my mouth to defeat a silly argument I never made, or you need a primer in reading comprehension. The word "foreign" never appeared in my post. But if you put on your long-disused thinking cap and apply a colossal effort of concentration you might realize the phrase "a dozen countries" could possibly include the United States. "Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoilingMidnight 0 #21 May 10, 2007 Quote I can't find where Patrick Moore has ever called global warming a 'hoax'. Saying that global warming concerns should not stop us from providing African countries with fossil fuel powerstations is very different from saying global warming doesn't happen. BTW, we don't burn CO2. Well blimy, gov'nor, the massive debunking of "global warming" appeared on YOUR tele! And Moore's statement regarding "burning CO2" was printed in YOUR newspapers: http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_documentary. Odd that a foreigner has to tell you the news in your country. Are vegemite and kippers addictive to the exclusion of all else? To hear Moore label "global warming" a hoax, see the excellent BBC documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle", viewable here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170 It proves climate change is natural, has been occurring for years, and ice falling from glaciers is normal spring break-up and as natural as leaves falling in autumn. Danger! By refusing to watch this film you're purposely isolating yourself from contrary fact, exactly what you accuse conservatives of doing."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #22 May 10, 2007 If only we could get this burning of CO2 problem solved, we would have a complete new source of energy Sort of like a perpetual motion thing. Burn CO2 to produce more CO2. Another problem is that it is only a trace gas in the atmosphere. Now if we could burn nitrogeon..... Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,595 #23 May 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhy did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday? Either you're putting words in my mouth to defeat a silly argument I never made, or you need a primer in reading comprehension. The word "foreign" never appeared in my post. For a survey to be conducted in more than a dozen countries it is neccesary for at least a dozen of those to be foreign. Am I only allowed to reply using the words that appeared in your original post? Anyway, to put your mind at rest, my reply was a joke, intended to point out the irrelevance of your highlighting the international scale of the poll.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,595 #24 May 10, 2007 QuoteWell blimy, gov'nor, the massive debunking of "global warming" appeared on YOUR tele! A lot of things appear on TV. I don't watch them all. QuoteAnd Moore's statement regarding "burning CO2" was printed in YOUR newspapers: Still, we don't burn CO2. QuoteAre vegemite That is Australia. QuoteIt proves climate change is natural, has been occurring for years, and ice falling from glaciers is normal spring break-up and as natural as leaves falling in autumn. The film proves nothing. The film presents one side of the story. It is not a definitive answer.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #25 May 10, 2007 >Now if we could burn nitrogeon..... Careful there! Burning nitrogen could release nitrogen into the atmosphere. And that sounds more dangerous than dihydrogen monoxide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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jakee 1,595 #15 May 9, 2007 QuoteAnd a survey on climate change conducted in more than a dozen countries found that a majority of Americans don't think a "global warming crisis" is real. Why did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #16 May 9, 2007 Quote The co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, finally admits "global warming" is a hoax, and now says African countries should be encouraged to burn more CO2. I can't find where Patrick Moore has ever called global warming a 'hoax'. Saying that global warming concerns should not stop us from providing African countries with fossil fuel powerstations is very different from saying global warming doesn't happen. BTW, we don't burn CO2.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #17 May 9, 2007 Quote Quote BTW, we don't burn CO2. Well, no WONDER there's a problem... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #18 May 9, 2007 >BTW, we don't burn CO2. sssshh, he's on a roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #19 May 10, 2007 Quote Well, no WONDER there's a problem http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_documentary Fourth sentence down; their words not mine, my man."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #20 May 10, 2007 QuoteWhy did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday? Either you're putting words in my mouth to defeat a silly argument I never made, or you need a primer in reading comprehension. The word "foreign" never appeared in my post. But if you put on your long-disused thinking cap and apply a colossal effort of concentration you might realize the phrase "a dozen countries" could possibly include the United States. "Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #21 May 10, 2007 Quote I can't find where Patrick Moore has ever called global warming a 'hoax'. Saying that global warming concerns should not stop us from providing African countries with fossil fuel powerstations is very different from saying global warming doesn't happen. BTW, we don't burn CO2. Well blimy, gov'nor, the massive debunking of "global warming" appeared on YOUR tele! And Moore's statement regarding "burning CO2" was printed in YOUR newspapers: http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_documentary. Odd that a foreigner has to tell you the news in your country. Are vegemite and kippers addictive to the exclusion of all else? To hear Moore label "global warming" a hoax, see the excellent BBC documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle", viewable here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170 It proves climate change is natural, has been occurring for years, and ice falling from glaciers is normal spring break-up and as natural as leaves falling in autumn. Danger! By refusing to watch this film you're purposely isolating yourself from contrary fact, exactly what you accuse conservatives of doing."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #22 May 10, 2007 If only we could get this burning of CO2 problem solved, we would have a complete new source of energy Sort of like a perpetual motion thing. Burn CO2 to produce more CO2. Another problem is that it is only a trace gas in the atmosphere. Now if we could burn nitrogeon..... Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #23 May 10, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhy did they conduct a survey in a dozen foreign countries to find out what Americans think? Were they interviewing people on holiday? Either you're putting words in my mouth to defeat a silly argument I never made, or you need a primer in reading comprehension. The word "foreign" never appeared in my post. For a survey to be conducted in more than a dozen countries it is neccesary for at least a dozen of those to be foreign. Am I only allowed to reply using the words that appeared in your original post? Anyway, to put your mind at rest, my reply was a joke, intended to point out the irrelevance of your highlighting the international scale of the poll.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #24 May 10, 2007 QuoteWell blimy, gov'nor, the massive debunking of "global warming" appeared on YOUR tele! A lot of things appear on TV. I don't watch them all. QuoteAnd Moore's statement regarding "burning CO2" was printed in YOUR newspapers: Still, we don't burn CO2. QuoteAre vegemite That is Australia. QuoteIt proves climate change is natural, has been occurring for years, and ice falling from glaciers is normal spring break-up and as natural as leaves falling in autumn. The film proves nothing. The film presents one side of the story. It is not a definitive answer.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #25 May 10, 2007 >Now if we could burn nitrogeon..... Careful there! Burning nitrogen could release nitrogen into the atmosphere. And that sounds more dangerous than dihydrogen monoxide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites