A question for Skydivers who care about the environment...

[AS1 0]

How do skydivers reconcile saving the planet with causing aviation pollution for fun?

I say sod it, ignore the cardigan wearing environmental anti SUV eco-nazi knit-your-own-yoghurt types. This is too much fun to worry about something as trivial as the planet.

[mr2mk1g 10]

I try not to fart on the plane.

[steveorino 7]

That is one of the reasons I laugh at those who make a big deal of my SUV ... talk about hypocrites.

steveOrino

[leslie1618 0]

I do care about the environment, but I'm not worried about it. Long after we're gone, the planet will probably continue to thrive for another 10 billion years. We're only harming ourselves. If we were really concerned about that, we wouldn't be tossing ourselves out of airplanes from 13k. I'm all about having fun while we're here. Our time's almost up

I tried to get a grip on reality, but it moved.

[jakee 1,595]

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I do care about the environment, but I'm not worried about it. Long after we're gone, the planet will probably continue to thrive for another 10 billion years.

Or maybe not.

This very interesting lecture says that the Sun is expected to have a 'mid life crisis' as little as 1.1Bn years from now - enough to dry out the Earths atmosphere and kill almost all land dwelling species. In a mere 3.5Bn years the Sun will be hot enough to make Earth resemble Venus!

So we may not have as long on this planet as you thought - hope you've got your bags packed

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[popsjumper 2]

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...So we may not have as long on this planet as you thought - hope you've got your bags packed

and don't forget to bring a towel.

You know...the only real solution to all these environmental problems, at this time, is populaton control. You wanna fix the problem or simply treat the symptoms?

A good, long WWIII will go a long way towards fixin' problems.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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In a mere 3.5Bn years the Sun will be hot enough to make Earth resemble Venus!

So we may not have as long on this planet as you thought - hope you've got your bags packed

Get your Mars package now.

[leslie1618 0]

In that case, we shouldn't worry so much about the effects of jet fuel. The sun will do all the dirty work for us

I tried to get a grip on reality, but it moved.

[nathaniel 0]

I don't see that there's a conflict at all.

Skydiving both contributes to and benefits from global warming.

My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

[leslie1618 0]

On that note, I'm buying a hummer.

I tried to get a grip on reality, but it moved.

[willard 0]

If primates follow the patterns already shown by other species we have but a few dozen million years left here (if even that long), well short of any major change in the sun-earth relationship. But I'll be long gone by then and I'm taking my beer with me!

[jakee 1,595]

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and don't forget to bring a towel.[Tongue]

Towel day is right around the corner - who's up for throwing themselves at the ground and missing?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Andy9o8 2]

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ignore the cardigan wearing environmental anti SUV eco-nazi knit-your-own-yoghurt types.

Brilliant.
Cheap stereotypes are no substitute for intelligent discourse.

[Amazon 7]

I look at it this way. I think all the skydive aircraft in the country in the air at one time are using less than what one commercial flight going across the country is using.

[Amazon 7]

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A good, long WWIII will go a long way towards fixin' problems.

I was kind of hoping for a better strain of Bird Flu...

[BillyVance 35]

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I do care about the environment, but I'm not worried about it. Long after we're gone, the planet will probably continue to thrive for another 10 billion years.

Or maybe not.

This very interesting lecture says that the Sun is expected to have a 'mid life crisis' as little as 1.1Bn years from now - enough to dry out the Earths atmosphere and kill almost all land dwelling species. In a mere 3.5Bn years the Sun will be hot enough to make Earth resemble Venus!

So we may not have as long on this planet as you thought - hope you've got your bags packed

I think the impending collision with an asteroid in the next 25-30 years has got this beat. It may not be the end-all-life event, but it will seriously fuck us up if it hits.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[billvon 3,116]

> How do skydivers reconcile saving the planet with causing aviation pollution for fun?

I generate more energy via solar than I use skydiving (assuming ~250 jumps a year from relatively full Otters.)

[ExAFO 0]

I will raise fluffy kittens. THat will solve the problems of the world.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[steve1 5]

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A good, long WWIII will go a long way towards fixin' problems.

I was kind of hoping for a better strain of Bird Flu...

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I was at a staff meeting in our school, a while back. The subject was what to do with a student who had aides in our school. This was a "what if" scenario.

Then someone got up on a soapbox and started off on how millions would die soon if we don't find a cure. And then with tears in her eyes, she said we have to do something now!.....About then I made the comment, that maybe that wasn't all bad. Maybe planet earth would be better off with millions less people. Anyhow that comment went over about as well as someone farting in church.

I really think the problem is overpopulation. Sure we can all do things to cut back, but again that's not the real problem. It may have an effect, but overpopulation is what is going to eventually do us in.

Disease, starvation, and war is probably going to bring our population way down. If that doesn't do it global warming will. I think this will happen sooner than later. It certainly won't be millions of years. How's that for a happy thought!

I hate being so damn pessimistic, but that's how things look to me. Please tell me that I'm all wrong here!....Steve1

[rehmwa 2]

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Cheap stereotypes are no substitute for intelligent discourse.

you got that right. his comment was right out the redneck Bubba and Clyde trailer crowd shootin' bullets road kill eatin god fearing missile lovin' handbook

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[rehmwa 2]

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And then with tears in her eyes, she said we have to do something now!.....

like what?

"ANYTHING" - as long as she feels better about doing 'something'

when?

"NOW"

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[AS1 0]

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ignore the cardigan wearing environmental anti SUV eco-nazi knit-your-own-yoghurt types.

Brilliant.
Cheap stereotypes are no substitute for intelligent discourse.

Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities. How about answering the first question?


(you own a cardigan don't you...)

[leslie1618 0]

I really think the problem is overpopulation. Sure we can all do things to cut back, but again that's not the real problem. It may have an effect, but overpopulation is what is going to eventually do us in.
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The sad thing is, we're going against the natural order of things by improving medical care and feeding the starving. In nature, when the population exceeds the food supply, a chunk of the species dies off, keeping that population in check. Ironically, by saving individuals, we're dooming the species as a whole.

I tried to get a grip on reality, but it moved.

[Andy9o8 2]

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(you own a cardigan don't you...)

Not only that, but I get most of my protein from yogurt.

[Andy9o8 2]

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How about answering the first question?

Sigh. fine.

I reconcile being an environmentalist with using petro fuel to skydive the same way I reconcile using anything that pollutes for recreational purposes. I try to strike a reasonable balance. I drive a car for recreation, vacations, etc., but I keep it well-tuned so it doesn't pollute too much. I cook out on the grill and light my fireplace for fun, but I obey the local ordinance that prohibits burning leaves and tree branches. As a kid, I was taught by my parents not to be a slob and to clean up after myself. As an adult, I try to be aware of my place on the planet and pollute as little as possible, and I've raised 2 kids to do the same - and hopefully they'll raise their kids to do the same. I put cans, bottles and paper in the recycle bin, instead of just tossing them in the trash.
And I generate absolutely no gunsmoke, as my cardigan-dressed arms are generally too occupied with hugging trees.