grue 1 #1 April 28, 2007 Student arrested for essay's imaginary violence • High school senior wrote about shooting, stabbing, drugs, sex • Class was told to write whatever came to mind, without censoring their thoughts • Allen Lee says his essay exaggerated for creative effect and was "just junk" • Lee, a straight-A student, charged with disorderly conduct; could get 30 days CARY, Illinois (AP) -- A high school senior was arrested after writing that "it would be funny" to dream about opening fire in a building and having sex with the dead victims, authorities said. Another passage in the essay advised his teacher at Cary-Grove High School: "don't be surprised on inspiring the first CG shooting," according to a criminal complaint filed this week. Allen Lee, 18, faces two disorderly conduct charges over the creative-writing assignment, which he was given on Monday in English class at the northern Illinois school. Students were told to "write whatever comes to your mind. Do not judge or censor what you are writing," according to a copy of the assignment. According to the complaint, Lee's essay reads in part, "Blood, sex and booze. Drugs, drugs, drugs are fun. Stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, s...t...a...b...puke. So I had this dream last night where I went into a building, pulled out two P90s and started shooting everyone, then had sex with the dead bodies. Well, not really, but it would be funny if I did." Officials described the essay as disturbing and inappropriate. Lee said he was just following the directions. "In creative writing, you're told to exaggerate," Lee said. "It was supposed to be just junk. ... There definitely is violent content, but they're taking it out of context and making it something it isn't." Lee was moved to an off-campus learning program, and the district was evaluating a punishment, schools spokesman Jeff Puma said. "It wasn't just violent or foul language," Puma said. "It went beyond that." The teenager's father, Albert Lee, has defended his son as a straight-A student who was just following instructions and contends the school overreacted. But he has also said he understands that the situation arose in the week after a Virginia Tech student gunned down 32 people before committing suicide. Defense attorney Dane Loizzo said Allen Lee has never been disciplined in school and signed Marine enlistment papers last week. A conviction could bring up to 30 days in jail and a maximum $1,500 fine. That's such a load of bullshit. I normally abhor civil lawsuits, but I'd love to see the school and police sued for something. The kid followed directions, and now has an arrest record. The US is circling the fucking drain. cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #2 April 28, 2007 And you wonder why students don't do what there told????????????????? Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #3 April 28, 2007 Proof once again of what a bunch of useless fucking idiots school administrators (and not teachers) are. If they had to actually work for their living, they'd starve to death, so instead they take it out by teaching kids blind obedience to the state. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 April 28, 2007 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2771480#2771480 My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetmoose 0 #5 April 28, 2007 People are so stupid, as if great literature doesn't have violence, why don't we arrest Stephen King and Dean Koontz while we're at it. People write fucked up shit sometimes, doesn't mean they are bad people.We die only once, but for such a very long time. I'll believe in ghosts when I catch one in my teeth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #6 April 29, 2007 Sorry, but I have no doubt this kid did it for attention. That is all. ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #7 April 29, 2007 QuoteSorry, but I have no doubt this kid did it for attention. That is all. Tough shit, because what we think about the content is irrelevant. The moron teacher said "do not censor", so he didn't.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 April 30, 2007 Quote ...The US is circling the fucking drain. That's good...I'm going to use it.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #9 April 30, 2007 Quote Sorry, but I have no doubt this kid did it for attention. That is all. Does he deserve a criminal record for it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 April 30, 2007 zero tolerance usually equals zero intelligenceMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #11 April 30, 2007 Quote Quote Sorry, but I have no doubt this kid did it for attention. That is all. Does he deserve a criminal record for it? No, he does not. I do think they overreacted. But I also have no doubt he is a punk and will get a record on his own some day. Now, that was very judgemental, I know. But someone looking to stir up trouble in this manner ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 April 30, 2007 QuoteProof once again of what a bunch of useless fucking idiots school administrators (and not teachers) are. I doubt the administrators are grading the papers. The kid's teacher had to knee jerk and send it up. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 April 30, 2007 In defense of the teachers and admins...so, the guy writes the paper, nobody gives it a thought and next week the guy goes bonkers and goes into action. The teachers and admins will be raked over the coals for doing nothing. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #14 April 30, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Sorry, but I have no doubt this kid did it for attention. That is all. Does he deserve a criminal record for it? No, he does not. I do think they overreacted. But I also have no doubt he is a punk and will get a record on his own some day. You seem pretty sure about this guy's motivations and general character. Straight A student... following directions.... I can see how you reached your conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #15 April 30, 2007 I admitted it was a judgemental thing to say and I was only going off what he did and the timing of what he did. Merely a first impression. I am on no way saying that I am right. ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #16 April 30, 2007 Quote...but I also have no doubt he is a punk and will get a record on his own some day. Now, that was very judgemental, I know. But someone looking to stir up trouble in this manner This comment of his from the article, I think, gives a little more insight into his character. Quote"In creative writing, you're told to exaggerate," Lee said. "It was supposed to be just junk. ... There definitely is violent content, but they're taking it out of context and making it something it isn't." About 10-12 years ago I wrote a narrative for school based loosely on the story line of the game by Apogee called Rise of the Triad that was rather violent (3 of the 5 protagonists are killed along with countless "bad guys" often graphically and in emotional fights) I'm glad I wasn't arrested for my story, and I'm sorry to hear this guy wasn't extended the same courtesy. One of the most frustrating moments for any very smart kid who is caught "just being a kid" these days is realizing how much more level-headed and intelligent one is than certain members of the school's administration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #17 April 30, 2007 QuoteThe moron teacher said "do not censor", so he didn't. In some cases, you have to use very common sense to determine what is obviously not acceptable. I have no tolerance for people who don't use the common sense their brains were formed with. When my drill instructor said to whack off in the bunk if we felt like it, I doubt he actually meant get naked and have sex with the M16's.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 April 30, 2007 QuoteBut I also have no doubt he is a punk and will get a record on his own some day. Now, that was very judgemental, I know. But someone looking to stir up trouble in this manner No, he's a smartass kid who thinks (and quite possibly is) he is more together than his teachers and saw a gap to poke at them. Perhaps they should see it as a warning sign, but it certainly is not 'disturbing the peace.' I have considerable doubt that he'll ever get a real record. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
