tbrown 26 #76 April 28, 2007 QuoteListen up America! If you're driving your car, DO NOT put your fucking cell phone up to your ear!!!!!!! If you can't afford the $10 a hands free ear piece costs, then either wait to call the person back, or pull over! I'm sick and tired of being run off the road, cut off, or or nearly run over as a pedestrian by fucks who think they "just gotta take that call!" There once was a time when you couldn't get calls away from home or the office. Guess what? Your call can fucking wait! Somebody needs a water cooled machine gun installed under the hood. The Red Baron rides again. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamMasterJay 0 #77 April 28, 2007 QuoteListen up America! If you're driving your car, DO NOT put your fucking cell phone up to your ear!!!!!!! Guess what? Your call can fucking wait! What about the folks that can multi-task? Never been in a wreck due to mobile phone usage. Having a few "road sodas" and then getting on I-95 is different all together but that's a whole other story.Truth is the distilled meaning of facts, for any truth refuted by a fact becomes a fallacy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #78 April 28, 2007 You can't. Multi tasking means you're diverting attention from one area to another.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamMasterJay 0 #79 April 28, 2007 QuoteYou can't. Multi tasking means you're diverting attention from one area to another. I've been packing my main in the car on my way home each night. This works great but I seem to be getting a couple line twists.Truth is the distilled meaning of facts, for any truth refuted by a fact becomes a fallacy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #80 April 28, 2007 Quote Quote You can't. Multi tasking means you're diverting attention from one area to another. I've been packing my main in the car on my way home each night. This works great but I seem to be getting a couple line twists. are you rotating the bag when you put it in the container, with the limited room in the car you need to be extra carefull about thatYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamMasterJay 0 #81 April 28, 2007 reply]are you rotating the bag when you put it in the container, with the limited room in the car you need to be extra carefull about that Yeah, you're the second person who has mentioned that. I guess that's the problem; should be an easy fix. I'll call you from the car tomorrow; you can walk me through it. Damn, what am I thinking? I can't talk on the phone while I'm driving. Guess I'll have to pack on my own.Truth is the distilled meaning of facts, for any truth refuted by a fact becomes a fallacy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #82 April 28, 2007 Quote reply]are you rotating the bag when you put it in the container, with the limited room in the car you need to be extra carefull about that Yeah, you're the second person who has mentioned that. I guess that's the problem; should be an easy fix. I'll call you from the car tomorrow; you can walk me through it. Damn, what am I thinking? I can't talk on the phone while I'm driving. Guess I'll have to pack on my own. get a mini DVD player and watch the Pack Like a Pro film and follow step by step You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrabGrass 0 #83 April 28, 2007 Quote Quote reply]are you rotating the bag when you put it in the container, with the limited room in the car you need to be extra carefull about that Yeah, you're the second person who has mentioned that. I guess that's the problem; should be an easy fix. I'll call you from the car tomorrow; you can walk me through it. Damn, what am I thinking? I can't talk on the phone while I'm driving. Guess I'll have to pack on my own. get a mini DVD player and watch the Pack Like a Pro film and follow step by step Too dangerous! Hang the manual from the sunvisor instead. ~ "Pack Fast, Pull Low... and Date Your Riggers WIFE!" ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #84 April 28, 2007 Talking while driving isnt difficult.. its a matter of sorting your attention priorities. Most people dont have their priorities on DRIVING anyway, so whatever else they are actually focusing on makes them less away aware and responsive already... very few people drive in the optimal 10/2 position after drivers ed anyway so that 'extra hand' isnt being used to control the car in any event... yes.. i've seen the studies on response time.. i'm not convinced, the test criteria i saw were rather sketchy. Ive actually avoided accidents while talking on the phone and even informed the person i was talking to... "hang on a sec this could be ugly" it is simply a matter of focusing on the most important task at hand...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #85 April 28, 2007 QuoteYou can't. Multi tasking means you're diverting attention from one area to another. NO ONE devotes 100% attention to driving past the age of 16 or so... even then many do not...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #86 April 28, 2007 JP, you're back in California, they all do this. We'll both be back in NY someday soon where the drivers are much safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lastchance 0 #87 April 28, 2007 OK. My fault entirely. But people still need to either talk on their cell phone or drive. Not both at the same time I may be getting old but I got to see all the cool bands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #88 April 28, 2007 why hasnt this one gone to SC yet?Fly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lastchance 0 #89 April 28, 2007 Good question. I"m done. I may be getting old but I got to see all the cool bands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #90 April 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteThose Nextel (walkie talkie) phones annoy me in restaurants. I'm trying to enjoy my meal and a wackadoo butt cheetoh decides to get on their Nextel and talk really loud with whoever they called...I don't care to hear their conversation. It's RUDE! In the UK it seemed worse (at least the last time I was there). In the US cellphone use is prevalent but casual. In the UK I noticed way more people walking around making a big show of being on the phone, projecting their voice having an 'important' very public conversation. I don't know exactly what the cues were, it was more than just volume but it just ratcheted up the annoyance factor. This happens occasionally in the USA but it was off the charts in Britain. A buddy of mine caught someone having yet another 'power' conversation on the London Tube for everyone to hear. Instead of just tollerating it, he decided to repeat everything he heard really loudly. Naturally it made the dozey twat on the phone seem like an idiot for saying such things in public. In the end he got a round of applause from other passengers. It's funny what factors annoy us about other speaker's calls on the phone, context, volume, topic, or a perception that they're only doing something irritating (or exaggerating it) because they think it impresses people around them. Mobile phones don't work on the tube. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #91 April 29, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteRoad rage is a big problem on the highway. The world's chock full of angry drivers who mistakenly think their anecdote based opinion on other's actions counts for shit. Are you actually defending the morons that are so wrapped up in their conversation it compromises their ability to control a potentially deadly 3000 lb vehicle? There are some people who can't drive and chew gum, there are others who can. I have seen people entirely engrossed and animated in conversation while driving. They are idiots, others can talk and focus. Actually I think most people are capable of the latter, you just need to give them a good slap regularly whenever they take their eyes off the road. As for the "deadly 3000lb" crap, stow it, you're not talking to some yank who falls for that kind of manipulative bullshit. hey buddy...diablo has a point...stop arguing for the sake of arguing...cars are deadly, and they do weigh 3000 pounds...PERIOD7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #92 April 29, 2007 QuoteTalking while driving isnt difficult.. its a matter of sorting your attention priorities. Most people dont have their priorities on DRIVING anyway, so whatever else they are actually focusing on makes them less away aware and responsive already... very few people drive in the optimal 10/2 position after drivers ed anyway so that 'extra hand' isnt being used to control the car in any event... yes.. i've seen the studies on response time.. i'm not convinced, the test criteria i saw were rather sketchy. Ive actually avoided accidents while talking on the phone and even informed the person i was talking to... "hang on a sec this could be ugly" it is simply a matter of focusing on the most important task at hand... 10/2 is not always the optimal position. That depends on a variety of factors. If you had time to tell someone to "hang on a sec..." then the situation wasn't that immediate. Not like, say, some jerk you're tailgating slamming on his brakes at 80 mph. Studies have shown that a hands-free device makes very little, if any, difference in accident avoidence when compared to a cell. The driver is still distracted. Just a couple weeks ago I was standing in line at a hot dog stand when a girl walked right into me. She was gabbing away on her cell and wasn't watching where she was going. To top it off, she gave me a look and a mumbled remark that somehow it was my fault. I'd hate to see what she does while driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zagijimzoo 0 #93 April 29, 2007 you know whats really going to be funny is when cell phone addicts start using their phones while under canopy! just wait and see..its coming! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #94 April 29, 2007 we live under a policy of PARENS PATRIAE which means government as parentwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #95 April 29, 2007 Quoteyou know whats really going to be funny is when cell phone addicts start using their phones while under canopy! just wait and see..its coming! I've already done that once.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #96 April 29, 2007 Quotewe live under a policy of PARENS PATRIAE which means government as parent http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ Dude, you've gotta realize that virtually no one here takes anything you say seriously...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWScottIV 0 #97 April 29, 2007 Quote Listen up America! If you're driving your car, DO NOT put your fucking cell phone up to your ear!!!!!!! If you can't afford the $10 a hands free ear piece costs, then either wait to call the person back, or pull over! I'm sick and tired of being run off the road, cut off, or or nearly run over as a pedestrian by fucks who think they "just gotta take that call!" There once was a time when you couldn't get calls away from home or the office. Guess what? Your call can fucking wait! I don't think typical driver inattentiveness can be directly attributed to one thing like cell phones... It has a whole lot more to do with the fact that people don't give a shit and take driving for granted just because everyone does it and they haven't died (or killed someone else) yet. Most people have a very difficult time assessing risk. So they have no problem merging onto the freeway at 15mph with a soda in one hand, talking on the phone with the other while they think about what they're going to make for dinner next Thursday. I personally do talk on my cell phone while I'm driving (sometimes with a wireless ear piece), but when I do, I understand that I need to heighten my situational awareness and drive that much more carefully. It's the people that already drive like shit and then add something like a cell phone to the mix without compensating for it that are causing the problem... Which is the way MOST people are. Unfortunately, when you're on a motorcycle you're a perfect target for those idiots... If they can't avoid hitting other cars, how are they gonna see a bike?! Guess you need to get that louder exhaust you were mentioning... That should do a decent job of letting them know you're there. It should also add a bit of an intimidation factor (i.e. I'm a badass biker and if you hit me I'll fucking kill you and your family for fun)Gravity Waits for No One. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #98 April 30, 2007 It's not a matter of safety, it's a matter of freedom. Don't be fooled. Restrictions on cell phones in cars are the first step toward total confiscation by a tyrannical government. Before long, all cell phones will be criminalized, but then only criminals will have cell phones, because the criminals will still get their cell phones illegally. Then law-abiding citizens will be at the mercy of thugs and gangbangers. Well, not me. I'll be damned if I have to resort to communicating with tom-toms and smoke signals if the shit ever really hits the fan and anarchy reigns. You can take my cell phone when you pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #99 April 30, 2007 >Restrictions on cell phones in cars are the first step toward total >confiscation by a tyrannical government. Exactly. And maybe poor drivers can't use cellphones while driving safely, but I'm an excellent driver and have no problem increasing my safety by using a cellphone when I'm driving. Why, I can call ahead for traffic reports! Get weather updates! Avoid accident areas by hearing about them before I get there! Sheep who can't drive and talk at the same time might want to give up their cellphones; that's fine. But turning our highways into "uninformed victim zones" is a horrible idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #100 April 30, 2007 I don't fear people talking while driving. I fear marmosets and lemurs fighting over the rights to Saskachewan Coconut production profits.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
