akarunway 1 #1 April 26, 2007 $177 for doing 89 mph in a 65. $350 for an open container.(passenger) What's wrong w/ this picture? Town. Gold Mine, Nevada. One lady is the judge, jury and executioner.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #2 April 26, 2007 Quote $177 for doing 89 mph in a 65. $350 for an open container.(passenger) What's wrong w/ this picture? Town. Gold Mine, Nevada. One lady is the judge, jury and executioner. Be glad you're not in jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #3 April 26, 2007 Quote $177 for doing 89 mph in a 65. $350 for an open container.(passenger) What's wrong w/ this picture? Town. Gold Mine, Nevada. One lady is the judge, jury and executioner. Yeah...I'd think the speeding ticket woulda' cost more. Speeding and an open container??? $500 fine. I think they were good to ya.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #4 April 26, 2007 An open container anywhere else is an automatic DUI, so count your blessings. $177 for 24 over is actually pretty average.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #5 April 26, 2007 I'd say I got lucky one time 7 years ago. Pulled over for what I figured was speeding (I was doing more than 10 over). Pulled off the road and stopped, then without thinking, undid my seatbelt before the cop showed at my window. He wrote me a ticket and sent me on my way. I'm kicking myself in the ass for getting popped for speeding once again. I take the ticket to courthouse to pay it. Clerk says the fine is $25. I'm like say what? Looks at ticket closely.... fine was for not having seatbelts on. No speeding on the ticket... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 April 26, 2007 Excuse me chaps.... are you saying that not even passengers are allowed to be drinking in a moving car?.... Tis crazy..... Can you get drunk on 2nd hand beer breath over there? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 April 26, 2007 QuoteExcuse me chaps.... are you saying that not even passengers are allowed to be drinking in a moving car?.... Tis crazy..... Can you get drunk on 2nd hand beer breath over there? The thinking is that a driver could get away with drinking while driving, by simply handing the beer to a passenger, and then claiming he wasn't drinking at all. So in order to prevent this, the cops presume that the driver is guilty, whether he really is or not. That's not right, but that's the law. It's kind of like assuming that all gun owners are dangerous criminals, therefore it's justified to take their guns away from them, even though they haven't actually done anything wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 April 26, 2007 Cheers John... It's a strange logic though, isn't it? Because if the driver had been drinking it would show up on a Breathaliser Test. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #9 April 26, 2007 QuoteCheers John... It's a strange logic though, isn't it? Because if the driver had been drinking it would show up on a Breathaliser Test. I totally agree with that. I don't think it should matter whether there's an open container in the car....only if the driver is over the legal limit. If ya' want to have a beer on the way home from work, it shouldn't be against the law, imho, unless your BAC is over the legal limit in your state. But, unfortunately, it is. Having an open container in the car is a separate issue from drunk driving, at least in AR. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 April 26, 2007 QuoteCheers John... It's a strange logic though, isn't it? Because if the driver had been drinking it would show up on a Breathaliser Test. No, that would only show that the driver had been drinking that evening. Drinking while driving is really not defendable. You're operating a 2-3 ton piece of mental while taking something that makes you slower and less coordinated. While as a passenger I'd like to be able to drink sometimes, my state doesn't allow any sort of public drinking. While open container laws concern me is that any wine or liquor that is unsealed is considered "open" and must be placed in the trunk. I don't have a trunk, and the safest place to keep a bottle from bouncing around and breaking is in the footwells of the rear passenger seats. If I pissed off a cop, he could certainly cite me for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #11 April 26, 2007 QuoteAn open container anywhere else is an automatic DUI, so count your blessings. $177 for 24 over is actually pretty average. 24 mph over the limit, I guess that rules out defensive driving. That ticket going to stay on the record for sometime. Slow it down, and help save a family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #12 April 26, 2007 You'll be laughing at the cost of those fines if your insurance company finds out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 April 26, 2007 QuoteDrinking while driving is really not defendable. Sure it is. What is the difference between chugging one beer in the parking lot of the DZ and then driving to the pizza joint and having that same beer while driving to the pizza joint? As long as you are not intoxicated and remain under the legal blood alcohol limit, what in the hell is wrong with drinking a beer while driving? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 April 26, 2007 <> Not over here, a BT would show that the testee was under or over the legal limit to drive. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #15 April 26, 2007 QuoteAn open container anywhere else is an automatic DUI, so count your blessings. $177 for 24 over is actually pretty average. Until recently in Colorado it was legal to have open containers but no one could drink while the car is in motion. In Wyoming passengers can drink. And in Montana it's legal to drink and drive as long as you aren't under the influence. The Federal government does hang onto more of the tax money the 13 states without sufficiently strict open container laws collect on gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #16 April 26, 2007 QuoteExcuse me chaps.... are you saying that not even passengers are allowed to be drinking in a moving car?.... Tis crazy..... Can you get drunk on 2nd hand beer breath over there? Being in posession of your car keys whilst in your car with the engine off is also considered drinking and driving. Legally speaking you're better off driving home drunk than sleeping it off in your reclining seats until a police officer wakes you up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #17 April 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteExcuse me chaps.... are you saying that not even passengers are allowed to be drinking in a moving car?.... Tis crazy..... Can you get drunk on 2nd hand beer breath over there? Being in posession of your car keys whilst in your car with the engine off is also considered drinking and driving. Legally speaking you're better off driving home drunk than sleeping it off in your reclining seats until a police officer wakes you up. And be very careful what you do if you see someone you know slumped over in the drivers seat drunk or drugged up. DON'T move them over and get into the driver's seat. I saw it on The Unit a few weeks back."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #18 April 26, 2007 I think the policy consideration behind all the "open container in the vehicle" laws is to throw up as many impediments to drunk driving as possible, even if the social cost is that the law is overly broad. It's a balancing of social interests. I guess there's a legislative presumption that there will be more drunk driving if open containers in vehicles are allowed than if they're prohibited. Whether that presumption is based on hard evidence or just people thinking "it stands to reason", I don't know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RBM 1 #19 April 26, 2007 Quote $177 for doing 89 mph in a 65. Ouch!!! 24 over.. man thats gotta hurt.. $177 is not real bad, but I bet you MVR is going look awful. especially when Insurance see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #20 April 26, 2007 I saw that episode too... Crazy lady (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 April 26, 2007 > Wow and they can yours the land of the free (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 April 26, 2007 I had a college roommate drink too much one night. He decided he should walk home instead of drive. Cop found him Did he get a ride home and an "attaboy" for not driving? Maybe a lecture for overdrinking? Nope, ticket for public intox. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #23 April 26, 2007 I was walking back from a party in MD (Pax River) and was stopped by one of your finest... he couldn't believe that I was walking back to the base... I guess that it's un heard of. I wish he'd stopped me a couple of weeks later, before I fell off a bridge and ended up in Bathesda!!! (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #24 April 26, 2007 Quote Quote Cheers John... It's a strange logic though, isn't it? Because if the driver had been drinking it would show up on a Breathaliser Test. I totally agree with that. I don't think it should matter whether there's an open container in the car....only if the driver is over the legal limit. If ya' want to have a beer on the way home from work, it shouldn't be against the law, imho, unless your BAC is over the legal limit in your state. But, unfortunately, it is. Having an open container in the car is a separate issue from drunk driving, at least in AR. I agree with all of that, and it's the same way in WA. I think MT might have passed a law against open containers last year. I'm not entirely certain of either, as I haven't been pulled over for any traffic violations in the last 12 or so years. Occasional beer and obeying traffic laws > no beer and speeding tickets Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #25 April 26, 2007 Quote Being in posession of your car keys whilst in your car with the engine off is also considered drinking and driving. Best example of that I know of...a friend's brother drove to a grocery store parking lot to meet up with a designated driver. After a night on the town, they swung back by his car so he could get his coat and a bag of clothes out of it. He grabbed the stuff, closed and locked the door, and watched a cop pull up. He was arrested and convicted of a DUI, because even if he was telling the truth about not driving, having had the keys while getting his stuff was sufficient. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites