9-11 The Greatest Lie Ever Sold

[jakee 1,596]

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Those kids rip those PM guys to shreds! I love it!

Blinded to reason you are young padowan.

Sad to see it is.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[idrankwhat 0]

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Google "Gorelick wall"

But when you do that, make sure that you read past Ashcroft's first mention of the "wall". I wouldn't want you to miss the part where he admitted that there wasn't really a "wall".

WTF are you talking about? I could give a shit less about what Ashcroft said about it - the bald fact is that she DID issue directives that prevented information to pass between agencies.

Of course, the 9/11 commission wasn't going to find one of it's own members culpable...

For "bald facts", there was no wall. Ashcroft threw out the red herring, got called on it and admitted that he made an overstatement. The so called "wall" was created during the Reagan administration. Gorelicks memo dealt with internal communications within the justice dept only and had absolutely no bearing on communications between the DoD, FBI, CIA etc and therefore had nothing to do with able danger.
But for grins and giggles, let's say that her memo put up a barbed wire fence and hog tied, muzzled, and blind folded every employee in the Justice and Intelligence and defense communities, Ashcroft renewed it a few months prior to 9/11. Not that that last part really matters, since there was no "wall".
That's WTF I'm talking about.

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As it is stated in the PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses", they (PNAC) needed an event "like a new Pearl Harbor" for their plans to be realized.

At best, this is a rather creative interpretation of what was actually written. Then again, most people would read it as a blatant lie.

Here's the quote from "Rebuilding America's Defenses" , September, 2000. I'll report, you decide.
"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor."

[champu 1]

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Agreed. Occam's Razor in action. There's also a corollary to it, I forget who said it originally...

The statement was made by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe in his 1774 novel Die Leiden des jungen Werther (The Sorrows of Young Werther)

"Und ich habe, mein Lieber, wieder bei diesem kleinen Geschäft gefunden, dass Missverständnisse und Trägheit vielleicht mehr Irrungen in der Welt machen als List und Bosheit. Wenigstens sind die beiden letzteren gewiss seltener."

"And I have again observed, my dear friend, in this trifling affair, that misunderstandings and neglect occasion more mischief in the world than even malice and wickedness. At all events, the two latter are of less frequent occurrence."

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My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[SpeedRacer 1]

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If the US government went to all of the trouble orchestrating the attacks & conjuring up a fake official story about it, then why didn't they bother to make even one of the hijackers an Iraqi?

I'm not sure why but not sure how big of a deal that is either. While I understand where you are coming from, that it would make it easier later to easily justify later intentions, they have obviously shown they didn't need that to invade Iraq. He had already become glorified a villain in the US Media long before the 03 invasion. Besides that, they bombed the shit out of him quite a few times already years prior, so why again would they need Iraqis as hijackers?

By your argument, then why would they need to stage an attack at all?

First you argue one way, then another. If the 9/11 attacks were staged by the government in order to start the invasion, it would make no sense not to include at least one Iraqi hijacker (why the hell NOT include an Iraqi hijacker???).
If as you say, Saddam was already sufficiently vilified & we'd already been bombing in Iraq, then the staged attack itself becomes unnecessary.


but anything to support the Almighty Conspiracy Theory, right??

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By your argument, then why would they need to stage an attack at all?[Crazy]

First you argue one way, then another. If the 9/11 attacks were staged by the government in order to start the invasion, it would make no sense not to include at least one Iraqi hijacker (why the hell NOT include an Iraqi hijacker???).
If as you say, Saddam was already sufficiently vilified & we'd already been bombing in Iraq, then the staged attack itself becomes unnecessary.


but anything to support the Almighty Conspiracy Theory, right??Crazy