lawrocket 3 #1 April 19, 2007 Democrats Scramble to Court Sharption http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070418/ap_on_el_pr/campaign2008_sharpton QuoteThis election, the high-profile Sharpton, fresh from the fight over Don Imus' derogatory remarks, is attracting all the party's major candidates this week for his annual National Action Network convention. The solid attendance — starting with John Edwards on Wednesday and continuing with Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) later this week — reflects Sharpton's prominence in the party, concern that he might run again and the Democrats' effort to appeal to the base, particularly black voters. I find it sickening. THere is a civil war going on in the Democratic Party right now - one between the Joe Sixpack Democrat and the ultraliberal bleeding heart. This shows who is winning. Note - the Republicans are dominated by the far right presently. I find them no better in belief - just equally abhorrent in the opposite direction. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 April 19, 2007 Watch the video titled "Bombay Screams": http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/index.jhtml The comment about Al Sharpton just cracked me up. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 April 19, 2007 making an appearance means exactly that. It doesn't mean the candidates are going to follow Sharpton's platform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 April 19, 2007 What if a candidate made an appearance at a revival for the Westboro Baptist Church? What if a candidate made an appearance at a KKK Rally? Just an "appearance?" It is impossible to separate a candidate's political views from the organization at which the candidate appears. Stumping at Sharpton's pad is an ostensible applause for him. They aren't protesting him - they WANT him and the votes of those he influences. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #5 April 19, 2007 Disgusting. They're giving him credibility by doing so - but what would one expect from candidates for that party's nomination. $harpton after all, was a presidential candidate himself for that same party. Here's what Mr. Neal Boortz had to say about $harpton after the Imus imbroglio: Quote OK ... It's been about four days since CBS pulled the plug on Don Imus. We've had a weekend to calm down and think about things. So .... are you sitting around today and wondering just what in the hell happened here? I suspect a lot of people are wondering just how this incident over a bad jock joke became a 24/7 news story that cost an iconic broadcaster his career. Sure ... what Don Imus said was mindless and cruel. He admits it. But it was nothing that heard every day of the week on hundreds of rap stations across America. The big difference here? Al Sharpton stormed into the picture and the media ran with the story ... big time. This a story about rhetoric ... racial rhetoric. Just where in our culture has the true degeneration of rhetoric occurred? Has the rhetorical rot advanced more from the era of white racists like David Duke to Don Imus, or from the words of Martin Luther King, Jr. to Al Sharpton? Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for a little over 8 minutes during that march on Washington in August of 1963. Al Sharpton was about 9 years old then, and the combined effect of every word that Sharpton has uttered from that date can't add up to King's eight minutes. Al Sharpton, the man who once referred to "Greek homos", "White interlopers", and "diamond merchants" (as a euphemism for Jews), was the man who sat in judgment of Imus. Imus, though edgy and often crude, is a man with a giving spirit. Someone please tell me just where Sharpton's home for children with cancer is. If you can't give me that information, perhaps you can tell me when Sharpton had his last radio fundraiser for charity. Sharpton does have a radio show, you know. Last week while Sharpton was stirring the racial brew Imus was busy raising over a million dollars for charity. Sharpton the good guy, Imus the bad. $harpton and his ilk are worthless. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #6 April 19, 2007 Quote THere is a civil war going on in the Democratic Party right now - one between the Joe Sixpack Democrat and the ultraliberal bleeding heart. This shows who is winning. Note - the Republicans are dominated by the far right presently. I find them no better in belief - just equally abhorrent in the opposite direction. SPIN CHECK! "equally abhorrent"? One is described as experiencing a "civil war" with "Joe Sixpack" and "ultra-liberal bleeding heart" and the other is simply "dominated by the far right". Given your choices, I had to go with "doing what they've gotta do". They're politicians, what do you expect? I'd expect McCain to attend if he thought there was any chance that he'd pick up more votes than he'd lose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 April 19, 2007 QuoteSPIN CHECK! "equally abhorrent"? One is described as experiencing a "civil war" with "Joe Sixpack" and "ultra-liberal bleeding heart" and the other is simply "dominated by the far right". Yep. One party has managed to already quell most opposition, though the tables are starting to turn with regard to foreign policy. QuoteThey're politicians, what do you expect? Principle, which is why I find it disgusting. I assume that this is reflective of their principles. If they think they are going to get more votes than they will lose, this is a shame. It's probably why all the frontrunners are there. I still find it abhorrent. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #8 April 19, 2007 Quote Yep. One party has managed to already quell most opposition, though the tables are starting to turn with regard to foreign policy. Which party is that? I can't decide if this applies to both or neither. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 April 19, 2007 QuoteWhich party is that? I can't decide if this applies to both or neither. I knew you'd come around. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #10 April 19, 2007 >Which party is that? Whichever one is in power, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #11 April 19, 2007 George W. Bush appeared at Bob Jones University (the place that had the policy against inter-racial dating). John McCain appeared at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. I hold Sharpton in very low regard. I hold Falwell and BJU in equally low regard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #12 April 19, 2007 QuoteGeorge W. Bush appeared at Bob Jones University (the place that had the policy against inter-racial dating). John McCain appeared at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. I hold Sharpton in very low regard. I hold Falwell and BJU in equally low regard. Say what your saying is you hold dedicated conservative Christian organizations on par with deceptive race hustlers, right? How about Billy Graham? Do you hold him in the same low regard? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 April 19, 2007 Quotewhat your saying is you hold dedicated conservative Christian organizations on par with deceptive race hustlers, right? I hold deceptive faith hu$tler$ on par with deceptive race hu$tler$. I'd say yes. That's about right. Confusing televangelical hustling with truly righteous religious types does a disservice to those that are quietly decent because of their faith. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #14 April 19, 2007 Quote Quote what your saying is you hold dedicated conservative Christian organizations on par with deceptive race hustlers, right? I hold deceptive faith hu$tler$ on par with deceptive race hu$tler$. I'd say yes. That's about right. Confusing televangelical hustling with truly righteous religious types does a disservice to those that are quietly decent because of their faith. So Jerry Falwell is just a deceptive hustler, eh? That's funny! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 April 19, 2007 Quote So Jerry Falwell is just a deceptive hustler, eh? That's funny! I don't know him personally, so I don't know his sincerity and goals, only the general image. I suspect there are some public televangelists that have good intentions (just like liberals 'mean well'). I do have an opinion on televangelism and how it's conducted. It concides with my personal opinion that religion should be personal and private, not highly organized and for profit. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #16 April 19, 2007 Quote Say what your saying is you hold dedicated conservative Christian organizations on par with deceptive race hustlers, right? Nope, I just call them puppy mills for The US Dept. of Justice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #17 April 19, 2007 How is this any different than attending other special interest group functions while in office or while on the campaign trail? Isn't the point to show the people that you are still connected to the population and listen to their concerns? Seems like this is part of Politics 101 to me. On a side note....Sharpton pulling in these candidates is exactly the sort of response he wanted from the whole Imus thing. He flexed his muscle to show he still can have a negative impact when he raises his voice. Candidates will run to him out of fears of what snubbing him would mean._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #18 April 19, 2007 >ou hold dedicated conservative Christian organizations on par with >deceptive race hustlers, right? I hold deceptive christian hustlers on par with deceptive race hustlers. Falwell is not one of the worst but he's pretty low. He's the one that put some of the blame for 9/11 on non-christians, gays and lesbians, and he supported segregation in the 50's and 60's. He called christian gays "brute beasts" in "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven." On the other hand, he is sort of amusing. The "Tinky Winky is trying to turn kids gay" comments in his publication were hilarious, as was his assertion that God is a republican. So he gets some points there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #19 April 19, 2007 Quote>ou hold dedicated conservative Christian organizations on par with >deceptive race hustlers, right? I hold deceptive christian hustlers on par with deceptive race hustlers. Falwell is not one of the worst but he's pretty low. He's the one that put some of the blame for 9/11 on non-christians, gays and lesbians, and he supported segregation in the 50's and 60's. He called christian gays "brute beasts" in "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven." Which parts were deceptions? Is this like your claim about McVeigh going to his death as a devout christian? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #20 April 19, 2007 >Which parts were deceptions? Parts of what? The above? He claims he never said the thing about gays and lesbians. He's also claimed that the divorce rate is lower among born-again Christians than it is among all other Americans, which isn't true. He's claimed that his ministry never lost its tax-exempt status due to its support of political activities, which of course is not true either. All of which doesn't make him the worst out there, of course. Just another deceptive christian hustler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 April 19, 2007 QuoteWhat if a candidate made an appearance at a revival for the Westboro Baptist Church? What if a candidate made an appearance at a KKK Rally? Just an "appearance?" Al Sharpton represents a big chunk of black voters, nearly all of whom will vote for a Democratic candidate. That has little resemblance to the membership of the Westboro Baptists, who represent virtually no one in America and almost certainly won't vote for any Democrat (exception being if their glasses are out of prescription and using a Florida ballot). At this point in the election process, virtually no group is too bad to make a gesture towards. For either party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites