chuteless 1 #1 April 17, 2007 In Pakistan an edict was issued against a young woman for sinning, because she was seen hugging her skydiving instructor. She says she now fears for her life. I guess so in that wacky country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RB_Hammer 0 #2 April 17, 2007 Actually, this woman is Pakistan Tourism Minister Nilofar Bakhtiar, a woman in here 50's... Article here"I'm not lost. I don't know where I'm going, but there's no sense in being late." Mathew Quigley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #3 April 17, 2007 Hm....is that a Muslim edict?"Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 April 17, 2007 Quote Hm....is that a Muslim edict? Pretty much like the one they slapped on Salman Rushdie, but not a death threat... Stupid muslims... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #5 April 17, 2007 Three... Two... One... CYA Did you guys see the employment post in the classifieds. Some one is looking for female tandem instructors to work in Iran to do female only tandems. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 April 17, 2007 You're under arrest by the re-post police. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2751377;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 April 17, 2007 QuoteStupid muslims... Shame on you. They're not "stupid Muslims". They're stupid people who use their religion, which happens to be Islam, as the vehicle to act out their stupidity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWScottIV 0 #8 April 18, 2007 QuoteQuoteStupid muslims... Shame on you. They're not "stupid Muslims". They're stupid people who use their religion, which happens to be Islam, as the vehicle to act out their stupidity. Totally.Gravity Waits for No One. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #9 May 3, 2007 QuoteShame on you. They're not "stupid Muslims". They're stupid people who use their religion, which happens to be Islam, as the vehicle to act out their stupidity. Hm. What religion was behind the 1979 seizure of American hostages? What religion was behind the attack on the Marine barracks in ’83? What religion was behind the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia? What religion was behind the WTC attack in ’93? What religion was behind the attack on our embassy in Tanzania? What religion was behind the attack on our embassy in Kenya? What religion was behind the attacks planned during the Clinton administration that killed over 3,000 on 9/11? Sounds like we have an equivocator and anti-religious bigot attempting to equate "murder" with "religion", rather than the well-known truth. Name one Christian suicide bomber. Name one Jew who beheaded an innocent on videotape. Name one Hindu who blew up his own children in a car bomb. Shame on YOU, sir."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 May 3, 2007 QuoteWhat religion was behind... No religion was behind any of those atrocities. The perpetrators happened to have been Muslims. And for pretending not to know the difference, as a smokescreen to justify ethnic bigotry: Shame on YOU, Sir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #11 May 3, 2007 Quote What religion was behind the attacks planned during the Clinton administration that killed over 3,000 on 9/11? Fucking hilarious! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #12 May 3, 2007 QuoteSounds like we have an equivocator and anti-religious bigot attempting to equate "murder" with "religion", rather than the well-known truth. Name one Christian suicide bomber. Name one Christian who fought a bloody crusade against the infidels...oh yeah, nevermind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #13 May 3, 2007 put this to work for the good of all mankind-http://www.onesimpleact.com/?mid=59858 the subject opening this thread is why women(and men) need freedom from religionwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #14 May 3, 2007 >What religion was behind the 1979 seizure of American hostages? >What religion was behind the attack on the Marine barracks in ’83? Nuclear weapons have been used against civilians only twice, ever. What religion were the commanders of the bombers that dropped them? What religion was Jeffery Dahmer? What religion was Timothy McVeigh? What religion was David Koresh? What religion was Charles Manson? Which religion - christianity or islam - has a symbol of torture and death as its symbol? Which religion - christianity or islam - has ritual cannibalism as part of its sacred rites? It would be foolish to assume that therefore christianity is the religion of murderers - just as it is foolish to assume the islam is the religion of terror. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #15 May 3, 2007 QuoteNuclear weapons have been used against civilians only twice, ever. What religion were the commanders of the bombers that dropped them? What religion was Jeffery Dahmer? What religion was Timothy McVeigh? What religion was David Koresh? What religion was Charles Manson? Which religion - christianity or islam - has a symbol of torture and death as its symbol? Which religion - christianity or islam - has ritual cannibalism as part of its sacred rites? It would be foolish to assume that therefore christianity is the religion of murderers - just as it is foolish to assume the islam is the religion of terror. Nice try with the Straw Man argument, but none of the above acts were done in the name of religion while ALL the ones I listed were. To ignore radical Islam's clearly stated desires of a repressive world caliphate is intellectual infantilism. You possess a mind-boggling inability to differentiate between what Churchill called "the fire and the fire brigade.” At best you're a dupe parroting the unhinged rants of unemployed radicals lurking in seedy cafés. At worst you're a totalitarian Saddam-sympathizer harboring a bloodthirsty hate for both liberty and its champion the United States. Either way, your inept rants reduce you to little more than a clown capering at the edge of a world that ignores you utterly. But the pièce de résistance was calling Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism. Your statement says nothing about Christianity and everything about you, and renders you unsuitable for civilized discourse. As such I won't read or respond to rants from such as you in future. However, I will pray for you."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #16 May 3, 2007 QuoteName one Christian who fought a bloody crusade against the infidels...oh yeah, nevermind. Another Strawman argument. Did you two fail the same logic class?"Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoilingMidnight 0 #17 May 3, 2007 No religion was behind any of those atrocities. The perpetrators happened to have been Muslims. And for pretending not to know the difference, as a smokescreen to justify ethnic bigotry: Shame on YOU, Sir. Quote BZZZT! Sorry Charlie, Islam was clearly invoked as the reason by the perpetrators. Muszlims come from every ethnic persuation, so to accuse me of "ethnic bigotry" is laughable. LOL! I didn't even mention a single ethnic group!! Are you reading the write posts buddy? But at least you invoked a different logical fallacy from the other two America-haters, so thanks for the variety with the Ad Hominem attack."Iþ ik qiþa izwis, ni andstandan allis þamma unseljin." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #18 May 3, 2007 >Nice try with the Straw Man argument, but none of the above acts >were done in the name of religion while ALL the ones I listed were. I think you need to do a little more research. Koresh was the LEADER of an extremist christian sect, who claimed he was sent by God. From an FBI interview: Koresh: "What is Christ revealed as, according to the fourth seal?" FBI: "Pale... a rider on a pale horse." Koresh: "And his name is what?" FBI: "Death." Koresh: "Now, do you know what the name Koresh means?" FBI: "Go ahead..." Koresh: "It means death." McVeigh pulled off the Oklahoma City bombing partly in retaliation for the US government's actions against this christian sect. Ignorance of such things makes for easy debate, though. >At worst you're a totalitarian Saddam-sympathizer harboring a >bloodthirsty hate for both liberty and its champion the United States. No comparison to Hitler? My friend, you don't even rise to the level of the usual trolls around here. Now, add a comparison to Hitler and a little "crazy" symbol and you'd have a good rant. >But the pièce de résistance was calling Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism. I didn't. Only an idiot would suggest that Christianity is a religion of torture, or that Islam was a religion of terror, based on what their symbols were or what some of their followers did. What I did say was that Christianity's chosen symbol is a symbol of torture and death (a cross) and Christianity uses ritual cannibalism ("when we eat his body and drink his blood . . .") in ceremonies. This, of course, does not mean that all christitans are cannibals and torturers - although some surely are. I suspect you don't know much about christianity if you didn't realize this, so some suggestions for further study: Google what "crucifixion" and "transubstantiation" mean. The Wikipedia articles on those terms are good starting points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #19 May 3, 2007 Quote At best you're a dupe parroting the unhinged rants of unemployed radicals lurking in seedy cafés. At worst you're a totalitarian Saddam-sympathizer harboring a bloodthirsty hate for both liberty and its champion the United States. Dude, don't stop, you are killing me!! Unemployed radicals.....seedy cafes..... That's gold Jerry, gold! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #20 May 3, 2007 Quote But the pièce de résistance was calling Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism. ?? That's exactly backwards He said it was ridiculous to call Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism - despite the symbolism of some of the parts of the practice. Of course, rising from the dead would certainly imply a great sympathy toward zombies and vampires - ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #21 May 3, 2007 This boilingmidnight guy is the most competent typist troll we've had around here in a long time. Did you see how carefully he accents the borrowed french words? And his insults are so rich and tasty! I'm in awe. He's an artist. I hope he stays around a while. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #22 May 3, 2007 Sacre bleu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #23 May 3, 2007 Quote>What religion was behind the 1979 seizure of American hostages? >What religion was behind the attack on the Marine barracks in ’83? Nuclear weapons have been used against civilians only twice, ever. What religion were the commanders of the bombers that dropped them? What religion was Jeffery Dahmer? What religion was Timothy McVeigh? What religion was David Koresh? What religion was Charles Manson? Which religion - christianity or islam - has a symbol of torture and death as its symbol? Which religion - christianity or islam - has ritual cannibalism as part of its sacred rites? It would be foolish to assume that therefore christianity is the religion of murderers - just as it is foolish to assume the islam is the religion of terror. QuoteWhat religion was David Koresh Janet Reno? Fixed that for you. I agree with your main point, however - it's the extremists rather than the mainstream that give ALL religions a bad taste.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #24 May 3, 2007 Quote Quote What religion was behind the attacks planned during the Clinton administration that killed over 3,000 on 9/11? Fucking hilarious! If you think everything involved with the 9/11 attacks happened AFTER 1/1/01, you're being quite naive...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DZJ 0 #25 May 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteName one Christian who fought a bloody crusade against the infidels...oh yeah, nevermind. Another Strawman argument. Did you two fail the same logic class? So when the Pope sanctions a crusade, it has nothing to with Christianity, yes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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billvon 3,116 #18 May 3, 2007 >Nice try with the Straw Man argument, but none of the above acts >were done in the name of religion while ALL the ones I listed were. I think you need to do a little more research. Koresh was the LEADER of an extremist christian sect, who claimed he was sent by God. From an FBI interview: Koresh: "What is Christ revealed as, according to the fourth seal?" FBI: "Pale... a rider on a pale horse." Koresh: "And his name is what?" FBI: "Death." Koresh: "Now, do you know what the name Koresh means?" FBI: "Go ahead..." Koresh: "It means death." McVeigh pulled off the Oklahoma City bombing partly in retaliation for the US government's actions against this christian sect. Ignorance of such things makes for easy debate, though. >At worst you're a totalitarian Saddam-sympathizer harboring a >bloodthirsty hate for both liberty and its champion the United States. No comparison to Hitler? My friend, you don't even rise to the level of the usual trolls around here. Now, add a comparison to Hitler and a little "crazy" symbol and you'd have a good rant. >But the pièce de résistance was calling Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism. I didn't. Only an idiot would suggest that Christianity is a religion of torture, or that Islam was a religion of terror, based on what their symbols were or what some of their followers did. What I did say was that Christianity's chosen symbol is a symbol of torture and death (a cross) and Christianity uses ritual cannibalism ("when we eat his body and drink his blood . . .") in ceremonies. This, of course, does not mean that all christitans are cannibals and torturers - although some surely are. I suspect you don't know much about christianity if you didn't realize this, so some suggestions for further study: Google what "crucifixion" and "transubstantiation" mean. The Wikipedia articles on those terms are good starting points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #19 May 3, 2007 Quote At best you're a dupe parroting the unhinged rants of unemployed radicals lurking in seedy cafés. At worst you're a totalitarian Saddam-sympathizer harboring a bloodthirsty hate for both liberty and its champion the United States. Dude, don't stop, you are killing me!! Unemployed radicals.....seedy cafes..... That's gold Jerry, gold! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 May 3, 2007 Quote But the pièce de résistance was calling Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism. ?? That's exactly backwards He said it was ridiculous to call Christianity a religion of torture and cannibilism - despite the symbolism of some of the parts of the practice. Of course, rising from the dead would certainly imply a great sympathy toward zombies and vampires - ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #21 May 3, 2007 This boilingmidnight guy is the most competent typist troll we've had around here in a long time. Did you see how carefully he accents the borrowed french words? And his insults are so rich and tasty! I'm in awe. He's an artist. I hope he stays around a while. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 May 3, 2007 Quote>What religion was behind the 1979 seizure of American hostages? >What religion was behind the attack on the Marine barracks in ’83? Nuclear weapons have been used against civilians only twice, ever. What religion were the commanders of the bombers that dropped them? What religion was Jeffery Dahmer? What religion was Timothy McVeigh? What religion was David Koresh? What religion was Charles Manson? Which religion - christianity or islam - has a symbol of torture and death as its symbol? Which religion - christianity or islam - has ritual cannibalism as part of its sacred rites? It would be foolish to assume that therefore christianity is the religion of murderers - just as it is foolish to assume the islam is the religion of terror. QuoteWhat religion was David Koresh Janet Reno? Fixed that for you. I agree with your main point, however - it's the extremists rather than the mainstream that give ALL religions a bad taste.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 May 3, 2007 Quote Quote What religion was behind the attacks planned during the Clinton administration that killed over 3,000 on 9/11? Fucking hilarious! If you think everything involved with the 9/11 attacks happened AFTER 1/1/01, you're being quite naive...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #25 May 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteName one Christian who fought a bloody crusade against the infidels...oh yeah, nevermind. Another Strawman argument. Did you two fail the same logic class? So when the Pope sanctions a crusade, it has nothing to with Christianity, yes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
