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The RIAA have filed lawsuits against 6 North Dakota students for copyright infringement. http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=162529§ion=news

I am just wondering what other people think about this developing situation in regards to lawsuits filed against students? Possible fines could reach $468k.
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>I am just wondering what other people think about this developing
>situation in regards to lawsuits filed against students?

I don't think much of it. The issue has been around for 40 years, and will continue. Companies like the RIAA will continue to threaten lawsuits (and sometimes initiate them) and people will keep on copying music.

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>I am just wondering what other people think about this developing
>situation in regards to lawsuits filed against students?

I don't think much of it. The issue has been around for 40 years, and will continue. Companies like the RIAA will continue to threaten lawsuits (and sometimes initiate them) and people will keep on copying music.



The problem is RIAA has been able to muscle people into paying "Pre-Settlement" fines and that is a lot of money. RIAA claims to be in it for the recording artist, but per album sold the artist if they are lucky get 25 cents for the 20 dollars spent. That is 25 cents to split amongs the band and songwriters not to mention the manager. So 19.75 goes to no tallent hacks who ride the coattails of the talented.
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>So 19.75 goes to no tallent hacks who ride the coattails of the talented.

Well, you've just described 90% of the industry.

To record a song, put it in an album, market it, produce it, distribute it, sell it and attract new talent once took massive companies. Now all that can be done with a PC and a few thousand dollars worth of digital recording equipment. The recording industry is on the decline, and this is one way they have to extend their lifetime.

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That is 25 cents to split amongs the band and songwriters not to mention the manager. So 19.75 goes to no tallent hacks who ride the coattails of the talented.



I have no idea where you got the 25 cent figure but let's stipulate it.

Assuming keystoning, $10 goes to the retailer. But don't think that's profit. Retail is tight. Real estate, labor, licenses, utilities, advertising...

$5 goes to the distributor. Probably pretty good margins there.

What's the actual production cost? Probably $1 for the disk and packaging. Maybe more.

What's the music production and marketing cost? Who knows? I doubt they use "no-talent-hacks" though. Why would rich and powerful corporations hire failures and losers when they have so much money? I suspect they hire the best producers available.

Comes to ... well, there's a profit there. And there should be. I do know the industry smells its own demise though and that smell makes people act more vigorously...


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FUCK RIAA I buy my CDs used off of ebay



Still a violation unless the person you bought it from doesn't maintain any copies (which I doubt is the case.) But that's not going to get the RIAA all up in arms. Just like the RIAA didn't really do anything when it took half an hour to encode an mp3, very few people had broadband internet connections, and trading meant putzing around on ratio ftp servers.

It has been going on for a long time, and the RIAA is just afraid of how convienient it has become.

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The RIAA have filed lawsuits against 6 North Dakota students for copyright infringement. http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=162529§ion=news

I am just wondering what other people think about this developing situation in regards to lawsuits filed against students? Possible fines could reach $468k.



I think the RIAA are a bunch of greedy crooks. $0.02
Here's some more info on the suits and the "pre-litigation" letters that they're sending out to universities.
http://blogs.allofmp3.com/music_news/2007/03/28/riaa-vs-students-update/
And I know that the link says that it's an unbiased blog but allofmp3.com is currently being sued for roughly the gross domestic product of Russia, so I'd say that they have a dog in the fight.

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am just wondering what other people think about this developing situation in regards to lawsuits filed against students? Possible fines could reach $468k.



From the article:
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University of Tennessee
One of the students in the University of Tennessee decided to pay $3,000 rather than face the RIAA in court.

Sophomore Chelsea Conn, 19, confessed to downloading 1 310 tracks from the Internet and decided to avoid the possible $1 million suit from the RIAA.



So the RIAA asked her to pay $2.49 per track that she downloaded. It seems a little high to me, but so does downloading 1,310 tracks.

One way or another, it's theft. THe songs are not hers. She has the right to buy them, but that's it.

Enough about these people being "students." I don't care. They are stealing.


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