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Evolution, Finally Debunked for Good

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Those pesky God folk have finally convinced me that evolution is a LIE.... and that Creationism is the only way we could have come to be here... also for some reason I feel a bit peckish... now where’s that loaf of bread....
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This illustrates why I think hardcore creationists are boobs. Look at the language they use:

- Obvious fact
- Reitterates "fairy tale" 3 times within 10 seconds
- The dead rat wearer speaks of any other planet
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They use this language due to the weak nature of their argument. Furthermore, the first gentleman needs to explain that rodent living on his head. Seriously, science attracts me by way of its appraoch, it creates a hypothesis and tests it, repeats it and the state a theory but doesn't call it absolute fact.

So the entire massive volumes of science are out the door due to peanut butter and the lack of life there. Most of these creationists can't fathom 1 million years, let alone 4+ billion years.

Look at what we have done in 70 or so years, went from horse and buggy to going into space and allegedly land on the moon. In that timeframe created aircraft to fly at 3 times+ the speed of sound, a very unnatural phenomenon. All the medical advancements including playing with DNA and all kinds of things and creationists don't think that in even their version of 10k years that life couldn't be created by nature rather than intervention of a guy who looks like he a 60's drug addict. Actually Jesus was ahead of his time, considering the long hair thing wasn't really in during his time, he was centuries ahead of his time. :P

"Evolution doesn't happen" What do you call the moths in Europe in the 1800's during their industrial evolution that went from white to brown in a short time? That's adaptation and natural selection, a part of evolution. Evolution is a part of life on earth, I'm not idiotic enough as the asswipes on the vid to say it doesn't happen, but evolution hasn't been actively connected to the origin of human life today. Which doesn;t mean it is or is not true.

Food industry counts on it: The food industry puts preservatives in food to kill or stop/slow the growth of living things in food. Milk has all kinds of bacteria in it, they aren't harmful. Hell, we have all kinds of bacteria in us, it's called NORMAL FLORA. We can't live well w/o them. So these living thngs are in our food.

Oops, it appears that some people who open jars of peanut butter do find living things:

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=79567

This explain the salmonela mystery:

http://www.theolympian.com/131/story/77803.html

There are living things in most of our food, they just find ways to suppress its growth. So just becuase something doesn't walk out doesn't mean there aren't living things in there.

Another of teh many falacies is that PB can come from the manufacturer to the table in days or weeks, evolution isn't required to work that fast and usually doesn't. To place a timeline demand on evolution is as inane as religion itself, esp the church.

This explains how food gets moldy from without, rather than from within:

http://www.wisegeek.com/why-does-bread-get-moldy.htm

So either there are living things everywhere, some in food, some outside of food that finds its way in and grows. We cool it to stop the growth, then heat it to kill them. Some bacteria are aerobic, some obligate anaerobic (02 kills it), so with the diversity of microorgs, we do have things living in our food.

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What I find mind boggling is that at some point he must have thought 'Eureka! I can disprove evolution with peanut butter!' Even more incredibly, this must have seemed like a good idea all the way through the production of that video.

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What I find mind boggling is that at some point he must have thought 'Eureka! I can disprove evolution with peanut butter!' Even more incredibly, this must have seemed like a good idea all the way through the production of that video.



A different explanation -- and slightly more generous -- is that these people have deadlines. And when the pressure is on, anything is better than dead air.


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What I find mind boggling is that at some point he must have thought 'Eureka! I can disprove evolution with peanut butter!' Even more incredibly, this must have seemed like a good idea all the way through the production of that video.



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Evolution is a part of life on earth, I'm not idiotic enough as the asswipes on the vid to say it doesn't happen, but evolution hasn't been actively connected to the origin of human life today.



Huh? We actually have quite a nice fossil record and genetic clues tracing human evolution from our great ape ancestors.

The absolute best thing about this video though, the complete icing on the cake, is that they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life, new life" is to do with abiogenesis!
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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>they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life,
>new life" is to do with abiogenesis!

(ssshh, they're on a roll)

Good thing they didn't choose an old jar of honey, or they'd be faced with the perplexing question of "who put those sugar crystals in there? God?"

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What I find mind boggling is that at some point he must have thought 'Eureka! I can disprove evolution with peanut butter!' Even more incredibly, this must have seemed like a good idea all the way through the production of that video.



It shows the putrid nature of religion and teh church. Science begs you to disprove them, religion dares you to. The lemmings better listen and praise or else..... what a fuckin joke

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Evolution is a part of life on earth, I'm not idiotic enough as the asswipes on the vid to say it doesn't happen, but evolution hasn't been actively connected to the origin of human life today.



Huh? We actually have quite a nice fossil record and genetic clues tracing human evolution from our great ape ancestors.

The absolute best thing about this video though, the complete icing on the cake, is that they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life, new life" is to do with abiogenesis!



True, but there are holes in it, albeit small ones. Science lowballs their evidence so when they have to eat words, they come in smaller portions.

I didn't even think about the evolution / new life error on their part, but I kinda alluded to it by talking about organisms that have evolved vs the live bacteria in foods.

Morons who believe that PROOF is found in nothing crawling out of a jar of PB can be taught to believe anything. Scary part is that this group of people want to place religious / Christian monikers in our courts, drawing that kind of reasoning to convict innocent people on some Christian platform: don't love Jebus ---> go to jail.

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>they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life,
>new life" is to do with abiogenesis!

(ssshh, they're on a roll)

Good thing they didn't choose an old jar of honey, or they'd be faced with the perplexing question of "who put those sugar crystals in there? God?"



God / Jebus are so great that I'm just gonna let them pull for me at pull-time. I think we can just let this silly book cure all of our ills, run our courts and establish our morality. :S

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The absolute best thing about this video though, the complete icing on the cake, is that they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life, new life" is to do with abiogenesis!



I'm not about to touch on the premise of that film, but can anyone tell me how life began on this planet? What's the consensus in the scientific community?

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The absolute best thing about this video though, the complete icing on the cake, is that they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life, new life" is to do with abiogenesis!



I'm not about to touch on the premise of that film, but can anyone tell me how life began on this planet? What's the consensus in the scientific community?


Life began on Earth by the FSM spreading peanut butter all over Cleveland in a very precise layer.:|

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>but can anyone tell me how life began on this planet?

There are several stages to that answer, depending on how you define "life."

Is "life" organic molecules? If so, then the Miller-Urey experiment has been run literally hundreds of times, with a great many different assumed atmospheres (depending on what the estimate du jour was for our initial atmospheric mix.) In almost all of the experiments, organic molecules including 13 of the 22 amino acids that are used to make proteins in living cells, sugars, lipids, and nucleic acids (like DNA, RNA, and ATP) were seen. The only mixes that did NOT produce such products were the ones containing oxygen. (Which is one reason the peanut butter analogy is sorta silly.)

Is "life" self replicating organic molecules? If so, then we have run several experiments where a relatively simple chunk of RNA (called a ribozyme) can replicate itself indefinitely as long as the right raw materials are present. The ribozyme is made of the very same bits and pieces of organic material observed in some of the M-U experiments.

Is "life" discretely walled organisms? If so, then we have a few options. Lipid membranes tend to self-form in water; many molecules have the required hydrophobic/hydrophilic end to form a barrier of sorts, and there are all sorts of mechanical agents (like waves) that can churn these materials up and create 'bubbles' of various sizes. The theory there is that one day, one of those bubbles ended up containing some self-replicating RNA, and the new cell would absorb nutrients and grow until it got too big, at which point it would blow apart into several smaller cells.

Anyway, no one can tell you for sure how live DID begin, but we now know of several ways it COULD begin.

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The absolute best thing about this video though, the complete icing on the cake, is that they aren't even talking about evolution at all. All this talk about "New life, new life" is to do with abiogenesis!



I'm not about to touch on the premise of that film, but can anyone tell me how life began on this planet? What's the consensus in the scientific community?



There is no consensus (and probably never will be), but there are several viable theories.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Anyway, no one can tell you for sure how live DID begin, but we now know of several ways it COULD begin.



Maybe. ;)


What do you mean maybe? We do know of ways in which life could have begun.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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