Taliban hate parachutist's

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it appears the Taliban don't like parachutist's, especially if a girl hugs, pats, shakes yr hand or whatever in their twisted mind thinks.

heres the link,,, more to the whole article,, but it just kinda made me laugh at the title...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18026675/

[JohnRich 4]

If they think that hugging her tandem instructor after the dive is so horrible, it's a good thing they didn't see the video of her being strapped and snugged-up into his lap before jump run...

But I'm told elsewhere that we should respect Muslim culture, so I guess we should join in with the calls to punish this evil woman for her dire sin of hugging a foreigner.

Tandem Masters: you better start checking the religious background of your female passengers before you leave the ground.

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But I'm told elsewhere that we should respect Muslim culture, so I guess we should join in with the calls to punish this evil woman for her dire sin of hugging a foreigner.
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naa.... fuck em

Roy

They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

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Maybe instead we could just treat it as being as representative of Islam as the Westboro Baptist Church is of Christianity.

They make a lot of headlines, too.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[FallRate 0]

When the Westboro Baptist Church is capable of convincing people to carry out suicide attacks, I'll give that comparison a bit more consideration.

FallRate

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but islam is such a peaceful religion.

"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
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When the Westboro Baptist Church is capable of convincing people to carry out suicide attacks, I'll give that comparison a bit more consideration.

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good answer fallrate, yeah, they cant even be put into the same catogory.

I still believe they,, yes, i call them muslim, radicals, the majority of the middle east people believe in such a extreme veiw of life, and trying to put a sugar coat of thinking, its such a small minority of people that think this way, as Wendy is trying to point out, is wrong.. this is something that is driven into their thinking from childbirth based on their religion. it is "their" way..your not going to change it,, hell I can't.?? Wendy, Im not trying to bash you in anyway, but i think your thinking is off? those ppl are kooks in my opinion..

and yes, the westboro baptist church is looney as they can be,
the world is going to shit... faster than the toilet can flush it...

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it appears the Taliban don't like parachutist's, especially if a girl hugs, pats, shakes yr hand or whatever in their twisted mind thinks.

heres the link,,, more to the whole article,, but it just kinda made me laugh at the title...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18026675/

If the hugging became illegal . . .
All the tandem instructors would flat out QUIT.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Thats not Muslim culture John, thats modern Saudi culture. Twisted and perverted Wahibist death cult thinking. I've just spent the last few weeks in a muslim country. The women walked around often without anything on their heads, went out with their friends in groups to bars and coffee shops and cinemas and skating rinks. In short it was a pretty normal scene. Thats a normal Muslim country, unfortuatly the influence that the Saudi's are having in the world is like a poison. Having lived in Pakistan I can tell you it never used to be like this and it worries me to see this perversion of Islam gaining strength.

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The mosque's chief cleric threatened last week to stage suicide attacks if authorities tried to raid the mosque.

These guys need to be arrested and put on trial for treason.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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You're wrong. As I pointed out in my previous post the majority of Muslim countries are not belivers of Wahibi doctrine. Wendy is right to a point, in as much as they belive in an extreme version of the religion. Unfortunatly they have massive influence in one country, Saudi Arabia. If you were correct in your reasoning then the 'Clerics' of the Red Mosque wouldn't have to set up their own 'court' as the Pakistan government judicary would already be sufficent in their minds.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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I read this article and then read it twice to make sure what I was reading is true.

I have many Muslim Friends; They tell me that their religion is one of peace, and I believe them. It's funny that this kind of radical thinking is consistantly coming from the same corner of the world from people, who, IMHO, have the same reasoning. And it seems that things are getting worse, not better. Saudi and these countries have been forced to open up; tourists are going in, and so are foreigners and strangers. I guess in retribution to this, the extreme side is bunkering down into Ultra-conservative and oppressive practices.

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more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, Maybe if there were more hugs there would be less blowing up more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs, more hugs,more hugs

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Thats not Muslim culture John, thats modern Saudi culture. Twisted and perverted Wahibist death cult thinking. I've just spent the last few weeks in a muslim country. The women walked around often without anything on their heads, went out with their friends in groups to bars and coffee shops and cinemas and skating rinks. In short it was a pretty normal scene. Thats a normal Muslim country, unfortuatly the influence that the Saudi's are having in the world is like a poison. Having lived in Pakistan I can tell you it never used to be like this and it worries me to see this perversion of Islam gaining strength.

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The mosque's chief cleric threatened last week to stage suicide attacks if authorities tried to raid the mosque.

These guys need to be arrested and put on trial for treason.

I know some people may consider the explanations as politically correct and apologetic, but it is absolutely the case that this is a relative minority making the whole look pretty bad. Especially to those unfamiliar with the history of Islam, and specifically with the emergence of the Wahhabi sect, their role in the birth of Saudi Arabia, and our unfortunate decision to get in bed with them for their oil before knowing the longer term implications. Wahhabiism is violent at it's roots. It was born in a culture of constantly warring tribes. There is a reason for the ring of mini-states on the Arabian Peninsula that surround the central region and the 2 holiest sites; and it is not because the less violent people preferred the beach life.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Oh, look - another "crazy Muslims" thread.
Yawn.
OK, moving along.

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You're wrong. As I pointed out in my previous post the majority of Muslim countries are not belivers of Wahibi doctrine. Wendy is right to a point, in as much as they belive in an extreme version of the religion. Unfortunatly they have massive influence in one country, Saudi Arabia. If you were correct in your reasoning then the 'Clerics' of the Red Mosque wouldn't have to set up their own 'court' as the Pakistan government judicary would already be sufficent in their minds.

When i see tens of thousands of muslim nutz demostrating from Palestine to Iran, to the horn of Africa, Afganistan, Checneya to London and Etc,Etc,Etc, and im talking tens of thousands in each of just the countrys i listed, who knows how many more? that i didn't list.. that view that killing is the way to peace???? Im sorry, that you see it in a different light, cause i see it for what its worth...
and you have a right to be sympathetic to them if you desire,, for me,, i have no use for them,, they are nothing buy a disease, a fatal one at that.

yes,, more hugs, more hugs,, that will cure the world...hahahah

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.... and im talking tens of thousands in each of just the countrys i listed, who knows how many more? that i didn't list.. that view that killing is the way to peace????

Yea, you forgot one big one.

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.... and im talking tens of thousands in each of just the countrys i listed, who knows how many more? that i didn't list.. that view that killing is the way to peace????

Yea, you forgot one big one.

I can't racall the last time I had some form of moral police dept authorized from the goverment to come to my place of business and order me to stop playing music or watching a movie, or tell my girlfriend she can't hold my hand or "hug" me or anyone for that matter or be punished by beating or worse death..because punishment for doing any of the above i just mentioned is to premote peace??, so don't try and pull its America too.. you want to try and compare the two,, you'll lose every time..
I don't think you or I would like to have someone come to us and tell us that in order to make peace you must do these things or you will die, or worse maimed for life.

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I can't racall the last time I had some form of moral police dept authorized from the goverment to come to my place of business and order me to stop playing music or watching a movie ... or ... or ...

You're right. In America it's a different list.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

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.... and im talking tens of thousands in each of just the countrys i listed, who knows how many more? that i didn't list.. that view that killing is the way to peace????

Yea, you forgot one big one.

I can't racall the last time I had some form of moral police dept authorized from the goverment to come to my place of business and order me to stop playing music or watching a movie, or tell my girlfriend she can't hold my hand or "hug" me or anyone for that matter or be punished by beating or worse death..because punishment for doing any of the above i just mentioned is to premote peace??, so don't try and pull its America too.. you want to try and compare the two,, you'll lose every time..
I don't think you or I would like to have someone come to us and tell us that in order to make peace you must do these things or you will die, or worse maimed for life.

Killing your way to peace?
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

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I can't racall the last time I had some form of moral police dept authorized from the goverment to come to my place of business and order me to stop playing music or watching a movie ... or ... or ...

You're right. In America it's a different list.

I think your thinking of the Forbes list..

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>I don't think you or I would like to have someone come to us and tell
>us that in order to make peace you must do these things or you will die, or
>worse maimed for life.

I agree. Unfortunately we are doing it other countries right now.

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yes, its is a high body count, im not going to augue that, its shamful,, do you really think i like to see all these people die,?? HELL NO< but for gods sake man, these people have lived this way for eons of years, do they get it that there is a different way of living?? thats not so bad?? that you don't have to kill someone that doesn't wear a headscrarf the right way.. or who watched Everbody Loves Raymond.. they all seem to believe that they have to kill to promote their way of peace?? because it would be harmful to let a little kid or teen or for that matter a adult have a life.

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You're wrong. As I pointed out in my previous post the majority of Muslim countries are not belivers of Wahibi doctrine. Wendy is right to a point, in as much as they belive in an extreme version of the religion. Unfortunatly they have massive influence in one country, Saudi Arabia. If you were correct in your reasoning then the 'Clerics' of the Red Mosque wouldn't have to set up their own 'court' as the Pakistan government judicary would already be sufficent in their minds.

When i see tens of thousands of muslim nutz demostrating from Palestine to Iran, to the horn of Africa, Afganistan, Checneya to London and Etc,Etc,Etc, and im talking tens of thousands in each of just the countrys i listed, who knows how many more? that i didn't list.. that view that killing is the way to peace???? Im sorry, that you see it in a different light, cause i see it for what its worth...
and you have a right to be sympathetic to them if you desire,, for me,, i have no use for them,, they are nothing buy a disease, a fatal one at that.

yes,, more hugs, more hugs,, that will cure the world...hahahah

OK, lets look at your argument. To start with I'm guessing that you pick up most of the information with which you formulate your views from the media. Peaceful citizens don't make the news the noisy and violent ones do. Lets look at the countries you mentioned.

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Palestine to Iran, to the horn of Africa, Afganistan, Checneya

Palestine: The fighting that goes on there is a political issue due to people being dispossed of their land and being treated below normal standards. It is not a Islamic issue. (Note several Muslim counties recognise and have made peace deals with Israel)

Iran: With an aggressive superpower next door and surrounding their country and battlefleets off their coast its hardly suprising that the Iranians don't have warm fuzzys towards the USA who invaded its neighbour illegally. Also note that Iran is not a Suuni country but a Shiiti one. Again the issues in Iran are political ones not Islamic ones.

The horn of Africa: Again the issues in this region are of a political nature not a religious one.

Checneya: A strugle for nationalist independence, attacked by Russia who has committed unimaginable hooror upon the citizens and the Muslims in particular, at its essence this is a political issue which dates back generations to before Stalin.

To use these to justify your thinking would be akin to naming all the African countries who are at war and blaming it on the colour of their skin as its one thing they have in common.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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You're right. In America it's a different list.

let's start a list

1 - you can't say "nappy headed hos" on the radio
2 - you can't say Global Warming is all made up without losing your job as a weather man
3 - you can't hire the best qualified individual without checking HR for quota issues
4 - you can't compliment someone on their clothes without a signed release
5 - you can't talk loud to your child without being forced to counseling
6 - you can't park your Hummer in the city without it being vandalized
7 - you can't put up your flag on your property without someone shouting a nasty word at you
8 - you can't join the military without someone spitting on you
9 - you can't force your school to teach creationism as a science without someone complaining (for fun)

now, let's lean a little left

9 - you can't teach about evolution without some wierdos starting a picket line
10 - you can't call your ex-college roommate in France without your financial history being investigated
11 - you can't speed 80 in 35 zone without 'the man' hassling you (this one's for fun)
12 - you can't take someone else's flag and burn it without pesky little "vandalism" charges being leveled (another mockery of 1st amend threads)
13 - you can't own a business without the local government taking it away and giving it to Walmart (that one will be claimed by both sides)
14 - etc

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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they all seem to believe that they have to kill to promote their way of peace??

If by "they all" you're referring to the minority of the population that subscribes to the extremist view then I agree, it's sad and problematic, no matter what continent it's on. Hopefully cooler heads will eventually prevail however the US is not helping that happen. We're doing the opposite. Our actions have been cultivating rather than curtailing the spread of militant extremism. And "these people have been living this way for years" in part because of external manipulation of their governments and the pilfering of their resources. If the decades of stolen wealth were returned to them I'd be willing to bet that you'd see a very different region developing and the extreme voices would be reduced to the Phelp-like fanatical fringe.