Returned from Iran and allowed to sell story

[shropshire 0]

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The 15 Royal Navy personnel held captive by Iran are to be allowed to sell their stories to the media.

The Ministry of Defence said their experiences amounted to "exceptional circumstances" that allowed its usual ban on such payments to be lifted.

clicky


Exceptional my arse.... there are lads in combat... their circumstances are exceptional. This lot are just pawns... talk about diverting the media from the real issues.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[akarunway 1]

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The 15 Royal Navy personnel held captive by Iran are to be allowed to sell their stories to the media.

The Ministry of Defence said their experiences amounted to "exceptional circumstances" that allowed its usual ban on such payments to be lifted.

clicky


Exceptional my arse.... there are lads in combat... their circumstances are exceptional. This lot are just pawns... talk about diverting the media from the real issues.

Beat ya

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[shropshire 0]

Shucks Aint it dark o'clock over there?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[akarunway 1]

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Shucks Aint it dark o'clock over there?

it's liquor o 30. Stuck w/ the relatives waiting for Christ to arrive Petron is good

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Skyrad 0]

WTF? First they play TV presenter now they get to make a mint out of it. Whatever happened to the big four and sign nothing? Make no statement? Were they tortured? No (but they were blindfolded and asked questions in a rude manor) Were they threatened with torture? Apparently not. Were they threatened with death? No. They were threatened with going to prison for seven years like the UK Gov would allow that to happen..

So what the FUCK were they doing on TV appologising and telling the world they were in Iranian waters and grovelling to the Iranian President. They should be facing court martial but that won't happen as they have already halped make Iranians make us look stupid enough.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[shropshire 0]

I think they are being used and have been since the start... But why?

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[akarunway 1]

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I think they are being used and have been since the start... But why?

Sucking up to the USA/CIA maybe?

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Skyrad 0]

Because the waters in which they were captured are historicly disputed territory between Iraq and Iran. I belive that they were captured on the orders of harliners who hoped that if they could get them to admit that those waters are Iranian territory then Iran would have leverage and a bargining chip with which to get them recognised. I don't think Armadinajan was in on this as he was very quite on the whole thing, took a long time to respond and then let them go throwing away such a plan undermining the people within who actioned and approved it and bolstered his international standing in a stroke. (Although thanks to the Syrians he did manage to get back his operatives in Iraq)
I think it was also an attempt to radicalise the population by the hardliners who have been loosing ground to the moderates and reformers in Iran over the last few years.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Andy9o8 2]

Turn a profit off this? Absolutely!
You Brits are all such American wanna-be's.

[JohnRich 4]

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I think they are being used and have been since the start... But why?

The Iranians got to make a point about their territorial waters, and send a "don't mess with us" message.

The Iranians got to humiliate Britain by showing that it is powerless to respond.

The Iranians got to cause an increase in oil prices based upon the market fear created, thus increasing their revenues.

The Iranians got to appear magnanimous in front of the world for releasing the hostages without trials or long imprisonment.

It was a win-win-win-win situation for them.

So who cares if they were lawless, brutal, kidnapping pirates for a few weeks...

[Gawain 0]

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I think they are being used and have been since the start... But why?

The Iranians got to make a point about their territorial waters, and send a "don't mess with us" message.

The Iranians got to humiliate Britain by showing that it is powerless to respond.

The Iranians got to cause an increase in oil prices based upon the market fear created, thus increasing their revenues.

The Iranians got to appear magnanimous in front of the world for releasing the hostages without trials or long imprisonment.

It was a win-win-win-win situation for them.

So who cares if they were lawless, brutal, kidnapping pirates for a few weeks...

Excellent summary!!

On top of that, nearly half of Britons polled did not support any use of force in an effort to retrieve their countrymen when the poll was taken nine days into the crisis!!

While no deal may have been struck, Iran also made a point about:

--Being able to exploit the Royal Navy's SOPs to attack, assault, and capture personnel in a combat zone!!

--Betting that the UK would respond in a generally soft manner

--The worldwide response would be equally soft when the captured personnel were paraded in front of the world on TV

--Iran will endure no further punishment or isolation in the near term because of this

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Skyrad 0]

Aye me hearty

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[shropshire 0]

Another 7 lost in fighting and yet these 15 are treated as heros.... It's making me feel ill.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[GQ_jumper 4]

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The 15 Royal Navy personnel held captive by Iran are to be allowed to sell their stories to the media.

The Ministry of Defence said their experiences amounted to "exceptional circumstances" that allowed its usual ban on such payments to be lifted.

clicky


Exceptional my arse.... there are lads in combat... their circumstances are exceptional. This lot are just pawns... talk about diverting the media from the real issues.

Why not, that sorry excues for a soldier Lynch sold her story to the media, and she did the exact same thing, failed to do her job.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

[dorbie 0]

How many more threads on this same topic do we need? There are at least three now.

I prefer the "Is the British Military Trained by the French?" thread, it has a catchy title, can we stick to that one?

[dorbie 0]

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The 15 Royal Navy personnel held captive by Iran are to be allowed to sell their stories to the media.

The Ministry of Defence said their experiences amounted to "exceptional circumstances" that allowed its usual ban on such payments to be lifted.

clicky


Exceptional my arse.... there are lads in combat... their circumstances are exceptional. This lot are just pawns... talk about diverting the media from the real issues.

Why not, that sorry excues for a soldier Lynch sold her story to the media, and she did the exact same thing, failed to do her job.

Selling your story to a tabloid in the UK is looked down on, as is making money trough anything except hard labor or winning the National Lottery, (unless you're Richard Branson, he gets a free pass). So naturally EVERYONE has an OPINION on these people making money selling their stories, that's right all the losers who'll be buying the tabloids are up in arms that they'd make money selling their tale to feed their own sorry appetite. Just hillarious. Sit back laugh and let the lads make some money. Maybe it'll keep some of them from claiming benefits or a council house for the rest of their lives and save our grandkids some debt.

Really who gives a shit, go worry about something important.

[Scoop 0]

Because our country has already been embarrased once. We don't need people appearing in the papers telling us how stressful their ordeal was/wasn't and continuing the embarrassment.

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Because our country has already been embarrased once. We don't need people appearing in the papers telling us how stressful their ordeal was/wasn't and continuing the embarrassment.

You're very focused on YOUR embarrassment.

If Britain had acted like Iran in this I'd be a darned sight more embarrassed.

[Andy9o8 2]

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The Iranians got to make a point about their territorial waters, and send a "don't mess with us" message.

The Iranians got to humiliate Britain by showing that it is powerless to respond.

The Iranians got to cause an increase in oil prices based upon the market fear created, thus increasing their revenues.

The Iranians got to appear magnanimous in front of the world for releasing the hostages without trials or long imprisonment.

Another one: The Iranians were successful in causing the Brits to suspend their boarding operations, while the Brits "review their procedures," thereby allowing more weapons and cash to be smuggled in to Iraq.

[Andy9o8 2]

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How many more threads on this same topic do we need? There are at least three now.

I prefer the "Is the British Military Trained by the French?" thread, it has a catchy title, can we stick to that one?

No. Go to my thread, and win a raffle ticket.

[dorbie 0]

The Iranians showed the world yet again that they're tin-pot hostage taking scumbags, that is all.

And Britain bloody well better review their procedures after this.

[Darius11 12]

I see a few have once again decided to believe what ever the UK government has told them about where they were. I saw a few make statements that can only be made if we are sure that the UK side of the story is true. I will wait till we have some real facts and not hearsay to decide if they were “kidnapped” or not.


As for them selling their story. I can’t wait to see this one and how over the top they will make it if it is ever made in to a movie or a book. I mean being talked rudely too is hardly going to be interesting so I wonder what torture methods they will add to their story. The sad part of all is that many people will read the book or see the movie (if there will be one) and remember the events that occurred as shown on the movie and not what really happened.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[shropshire 0]

I is sorry, I is so fucking sorry.. paddle my arse and ban me from typing because you prefer another thread, if only I'd known that before I started with my silliness.... Oh look there's more than one thread about the Iraq war... Mods delete them all bar one please and all those boobie threads... what a waste of bandwidth

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[dorbie 0]

Darius, you've spouting nonsense in spite of the evidence since the start of this episode and you're still at it. The most lamentable part of this is that supporting the shits that run Iran doesn't make nearly as much difference to a Brit as it does to the poor bastards in Iran that have to be ruled by them, but maybe they deserve it, freedom and prosperity requires rational judgement.

[Darius11 12]

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Darius, you've spouting nonsense in spite of the evidence since the start of this episode and you're still at it. The most lamentable part of this is that supporting the shits that run Iran doesn't make nearly as much difference to a Brit as it does to the poor bastards in Iran that have to be ruled by them, but maybe they deserve it, freedom and prosperity requires rational judgement.

Whenever you have access to proof or facts about the troop location please fell free to share it with all of us.
As of right now UK says they were on the Iraqi side, and Iran says they were in Iranian waters. Both sides have good reason to lie. That is why it is hearsay

Any rational person would realize that.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain