.........but not under oath

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What a joke, hear what this group of criminals we call the presidentia admin is saying? The WH aids can testify in private and not under oath, so IOW's, hear say everthing. They must have learned that wen you lie, lie not under oath. None the less, they are full ofshit if they want it all in closed session.

Is it more apparent than how woh illicit the chimp and friends are? SO now Bush says there will be an all-out war over this if the Dems push it? Where was he when the Repug scum pushed the Lewinsky scandal? Welcome to your own nightmare, scumbag Bush.

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They must have learned that wen you lie, lie not under oath. None the less, they are full ofshit if they want it all in closed session......

Bingo! Yea, I loved the idea of letting his advisors have a tea party with a few Congressmen but nothing more. I'd say that he's sounding a bit desperate by taking such a hard line on this. Must be hitting a nerve. I can't say I'm surprised though. This White House has been used to cruising along with absolutely no accountability. I hope Congress doesn't cave on this one (even though I can't imagine why they would). I say keep the thumb on this wounded lame duck. Who knows, maybe it will improve foreign relations.

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Bush says there will be an all-out war

That can mean only one thing.


The Dems have WMDs!

My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

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I guess Bush really did learn something from Clinton.

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

Ther ya go throwing facts into the mix again. Now them Dems are gonna get real confused and start to get riled.

Clinton got a blow job.

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

What double standard? That investigation *was* completed. Don't you remember? You paid for it. It was without a doubt, the most expensive Penthouse Forum letter ever written

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys upon taking office. That is fact.

It is possible to overcome ignorance by education.

Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush1 upon taking office. Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush2 upon taking office. Then look at Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc, until you figure out what the truth actually is. Go back as far as you have to.

Nice repetition of the Republican talking point. As usual, once all of the facts are known, the talking point is clearly a distortion and half truth. But it does come from the Republicans, so for some, it it unquestionable true.

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"Clinton got a blowjob!!"

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

Oh hell, don't complicate this whole issue with facts.

It was not a crime then but it is now and there is only one reason. A Repulican is in office and the media loves the Dems (OK, two reasons)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys upon taking office. That is fact.

It is possible to overcome ignorance by education.

Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush1 upon taking office. Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush2 upon taking office. Then look at Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc, until you figure out what the truth actually is. Go back as far as you have to.

Nice repetition of the Republican talking point. As usual, once all of the facts are known, the talking point is clearly a distortion and half truth. But it does come from the Republicans, so for some, it it unquestionable true.

Actually he fired a 120. The 93 were just in one wave that included investigators of White Water, Rostenkowki and others. But Clintons firings were not political. But of course Bushes are

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys upon taking office. That is fact.

It is possible to overcome ignorance by education.

Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush1 upon taking office. Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush2 upon taking office. Then look at Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc, until you figure out what the truth actually is. Go back as far as you have to.

Nice repetition of the Republican talking point. As usual, once all of the facts are known, the talking point is clearly a distortion and half truth. But it does come from the Republicans, so for some, it it unquestionable true.

Actually he fired a 120. The 93 were just in one wave that included investigators of White Water, Rostenkowki and others. But Clintons firings were not political. But of course Bushes are

Nice partial answer. Do the rest of the research and post again.

Here is a short summary of reality. All US Attorneys are replaced when the Repubs are replaced by Dems, or vice versa.
Political? Yes. Nefarious and evil? Only when Dems do it, according to some people.

Firing many US Attorneys 1/2 way through a second term for clearly partisan political reasons never happened before. Why? Because it wasn't possible until the Rescumlicans snuck the provision into the "patriot act" at the last second. You know, the provision that the Senate voted 92-2 to strike down.

Media loves the Dems? You forgot the ;-) or the . That is so far from the truth it would be laughable, if it wasn't so scary. Makes a great sound bite, though. Saying a lie over and over again doesn't make it true. Even if it is a great sound bite.

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I don't understand why people can't see that firing a large group of US Attorneys half way through a term is significantly different from replacing all or most at the start of a term.

The latter is almost common practice, the first one has never been done before. Doesn't the timing make you wonder?

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... Clinton.

Three replies before CDIF isn't a record, but it's a solid effort anyway. I give you a B.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

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It is interesting to note that among the 90+ US Atts fired by Clinton, were some investigating governmental wrong doing in Arkansas. I wonder where those investigations, had they been completed, would have led. Spectacular double standard on the part of the left.

Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys upon taking office. That is fact.

It is possible to overcome ignorance by education.

Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush1 upon taking office. Please review how many US Attorneys were fired by Bush2 upon taking office. Then look at Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc, until you figure out what the truth actually is. Go back as far as you have to.

Nice repetition of the Republican talking point. As usual, once all of the facts are known, the talking point is clearly a distortion and half truth. But it does come from the Republicans, so for some, it it unquestionable true.

Actually he fired a 120. The 93 were just in one wave that included investigators of White Water, Rostenkowki and others. But Clintons firings were not political. But of course Bushes are

Nice partial answer. Do the rest of the research and post again.

Here is a short summary of reality. All US Attorneys are replaced when the Repubs are replaced by Dems, or vice versa.
Political? Yes. Nefarious and evil? Only when Dems do it, according to some people.

Firing many US Attorneys 1/2 way through a second term for clearly partisan political reasons never happened before. Why? Because it wasn't possible until the Rescumlicans snuck the provision into the "patriot act" at the last second. You know, the provision that the Senate voted 92-2 to strike down.

Media loves the Dems? You forgot the ;-) or the . That is so far from the truth it would be laughable, if it wasn't so scary. Makes a great sound bite, though. Saying a lie over and over again doesn't make it true. Even if it is a great sound bite.

Sorry, you got it wrong here. I never said Bush was right or wrong. I only indicated that there is a double standard by the media.

You say I am wrong in by media comment so, prove me wrong. Find the articles condeming the Clinton admin and running the story for days.

And while you are at it, find where the Repubs wanted Clinton people to testify under oath in front of Congress for the same.

Laughable yes, but not coming from the points I made

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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So Rush, you don't think the timing makes this issue different?

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So Rush, you don't think the timing makes this issue different?

In what way? There are (were) issues with what those that were fired were doing under both admins. I am not making a claim of right or wrong (as some seem to be implying here) The point, more than anything, is how differently it is viewed depending on which party has the power of the office.

Your thought?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Three replies before CDIF isn't a record, but it's a solid effort anyway. I give you a B.

I'll try harder next time.

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The point, more than anything, is how differently it is viewed I view things depending on which party has the power of the office.

Well done. I think that's a very succinct summarization of your 3607 posts in Speaker's Corner. Well done indeed, my boy!

edited to add: Actually, it probably characterizes nearly all of the 255,872 posts in Speaker's Corner. That's what makes it so fun here. Simple, predictable humor. Like television.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

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I think that history shows that the firing of US Attorneys at the start of term of a new President is "normal" and expected. Both Republican and Democrat presidents have done so in recent history.

The firing of a large group in mid-term during the second term of a president is not "normal" and not something that has happened before. Whether or not the President is a Republican or a Democrat I think it raises enough questions that it should be looked into.

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The latter is almost common practice, the first one has never been done before. Doesn't the timing make you wonder?

Wonder???????? A sense wonder would be nice but the sheep don’t wonder they simply follow no matter what the facts.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I think that history shows that the firing of US Attorneys at the start of term of a new President is "normal" and expected. Both Republican and Democrat presidents have done so in recent history.

The firing of a large group in mid-term during the second term of a president is not "normal" and not something that has happened before. Whether or not the President is a Republican or a Democrat I think it raises enough questions that it should be looked into.

Fair enough. I don't agree cause 8 is no were near a large number and 30 of those Clinton fired came over time.

Thanks for a resonable response. They are rare on this site anymore.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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No, you fixed it for you. But that is ok



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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I don't understand why people can't see that firing a large group of US Attorneys half way through a term is significantly different from replacing all or most at the start of a term.

Because they don't want to hear it and would rather repeat the misinformation that they get from their "news" sources (which they will admit are "entertainers" but only if you corner them on the issue). That's why they repeat only part of the story and ignore the rest of it. Repeating often enough it makes it "the truth".

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... Clinton.

Three replies before CDIF isn't a record, but it's a solid effort anyway. I give you a B.

did you know Clinton got a "B"?

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