billvon 3,090 #26 March 13, 2007 >I don't know of any right wing gay organizations. Gayconservative.org and The Log Cabin Republicans are both right wing gay organizations. For more info check out these books, available at Barnes and Noble. They're by gay authors. Party Crasher: A Gay Republican Challenges Politics as Usual The Attack Queers: Liberal Society and the Gay Right The Death of Right and Wrong: Exposing the Left's Assault on Our Culture and Values The New Thought Police: Inside the Left's Assault on Free Speech and Free Minds What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality Coming Out Conservative Place at the Table: The Gay Individual in American Society Gays On The Right The Gentleman from Maryland: The Conscience of a Gay Conservative by BEYOND QUEER: Challenging Gay Left Orthodoxy Homocons: The Rise of the Gay Right Queer Wars: The New Gay Right and Its Critics Oregon's Prop. 13: how conservative values were used to defeat an anti-gay rights referendum. Do Ask, Do Tell: A Gay Conservative Lashes Back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #27 March 13, 2007 Quote Maybe you are the first right wing gay guy in America. Congratulations. Apparently you've never heard of Mark Foley. Here's a pic of him & Bush comparing sizes. Oh, and don't forget J. Edgar Hoover. A real pinko. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #28 March 13, 2007 Dammitt..........Stop trying to confuse everyone. Gay conservatives. How confusing is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #29 March 13, 2007 Quote Oh, and don't forget J. Edgar Hoover. A real pinko. Maybe his dress was....... He was just a fruit cake........in all meanings of the term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #30 March 13, 2007 Quote Maybe you are the first right wing gay guy in America. Congratulations. First of all, I'm not in America. Make of that what you will. Second, I'm widely known on dropzone as a lefty. That's largely because the righties hate my personality more than the lefties do, so by elimination people decide they have me pegged. Third, I'm not sure why you (and so many others) think the fact that I sleep with men (actually, just one man) somehow determines what I think of taxation, foreign policy, nuclear power, gun control, abortion, childhood fluoridation, or state's rights. And finally, don't peg me as right just because I asked you why you pegged me as left. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #31 March 13, 2007 Quote Quote ... but I enjoy watching his show... That pretty much says it all. I dont understand the point your trying to make.2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #32 March 13, 2007 Quote You misunderstand. There certainly is a connection. I made one up. That makes it real. Oh, did I mention the Righteous Protectorate also includes Adam Weishaupt, Adam Selene, Adam Ant, and Lassie? Point made. I missed it before.2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #33 March 13, 2007 Quote Quote Quote ... but I enjoy watching his show... That pretty much says it all. I dont understand the point your trying to make. That the guy is an entertainer. Nothing more, nothing less. That people think what he says has even a sliver of credibility is laughable. He says what sells, comes up with some catchy phrases and hits the cash register. Ditto head, secular progressive, neo con, etc. - pay the man. edit: add Righteous Protectorate to the list too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #34 March 13, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote ... but I enjoy watching his show... That pretty much says it all. I dont understand the point your trying to make. That the guy is an entertainer. Nothing more, nothing less. That people think what he says has even a sliver of credibility is laughable. He says what sells, comes up with some catchy phrases and hits the cash register. Ditto head, secular progressive, neo con, etc. - pay the man. edit: add Righteous Protectorate to the list too. I never said the guy had any credibility. Hes in the same class as Coulter, Savage, Maher, Limbaugh, and Franken (although he is seeking office) there all just trying to voice their opinions and cash in. Nowhere did I say id vote for him or actually BELIEVE what he says. I simply said that what he has to say is interesting and that I like watching his show.2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #35 March 13, 2007 Quote I never said the guy had any credibility. Hes in the same class as Coulter, Savage, Maher, Limbaugh, and Franken (although he is seeking office) there all just trying to voice their opinions and cash in. Nowhere did I say id vote for him or actually BELIEVE what he says. I simply said that what he has to say is interesting and that I like watching his show. Didn't mean to imply anything about you in particular, just people in general when I replied to your post. We're getting off topic here, but this goes to the heart of why guys like Rush are enormously successful and guys like Franken are flops. Rush is an entertainer, period. He knows and embraces this. He says things that are so ridiculous, there is no way he could ever believe it, but still people listen. They listen even if they disagree with him, because he is a good entertainer. He did a bit with a phony Bill Clinton leaving him a voice mail that was one of the funniest 5 minutes of radio ever. Franken, on the other hand actually believes most of what he says. That just makes him an annoying guy with a radio show - I'm assuming he's still on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #36 March 13, 2007 Quote Quote I never said the guy had any credibility. Hes in the same class as Coulter, Savage, Maher, Limbaugh, and Franken (although he is seeking office) there all just trying to voice their opinions and cash in. Nowhere did I say id vote for him or actually BELIEVE what he says. I simply said that what he has to say is interesting and that I like watching his show. Didn't mean to imply anything about you in particular, just people in general when I replied to your post. We're getting off topic here, but this goes to the heart of why guys like Rush are enormously successful and guys like Franken are flops. Rush is an entertainer, period. He knows and embraces this. He says things that are so ridiculous, there is no way he could ever believe it, but still people listen. They listen even if they disagree with him, because he is a good entertainer. He did a bit with a phony Bill Clinton leaving him a voice mail that was one of the funniest 5 minutes of radio ever. Franken, on the other hand actually believes most of what he says. That just makes him an annoying guy with a radio show - I'm assuming he's still on. Agreed2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #37 March 13, 2007 Quote Second, I'm widely known on dropzone as a lefty. That's largely because the righties hate my personality more than the lefties do, so by elimination people decide they have me pegged. Third, I'm not sure why you (and so many others) think the fact that I sleep with men (actually, just one man) somehow determines what I think of taxation, foreign policy, nuclear power, gun control, abortion, childhood fluoridation, or state's rights. well, we know you're not a pink pistol member. I think it's damn obvious you're closer to the left than the right. In a binary world, you're undoubtably left. I suspect that someone that wanted to waste time examining your postings could lock it down further. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #38 March 13, 2007 Quote well, we know you're not a pink pistol member. Why do we think that? Quote I think it's damn obvious you're closer to the left than the right. In a binary world, you're undoubtably left. I suspect that someone that wanted to waste time examining your postings could lock it down further. How entertaining. I'm amused. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterB 0 #39 March 14, 2007 You're not the only one. To those of you who missed the subtle-as-asledge-hammer-to-the-head point Narci made in his initial point: This Bill dude made up a new phrase and puts everyone he doesn't like in it. He then uses a series of negative definitions of this phrase. Narcimund did the same (although Righteous Protectorate is a lot... catchier). Any flaming or points directed towards Narcimund or his argument can be directly applied to Rileys. Still wondering if you have a pink pistol though. Wouldn't say a racing-green one that feels like a freight train running over the disillusioned broken down spirits of political hacks be more fun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #40 March 14, 2007 Is that the oppositive of secular progressives ? Religious fundamentalism of any flavor -- global salafism or biblical literalism -- frightens me, along with a nuclear-armed Iran and multi-drug resistant pathogens. Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #41 March 14, 2007 Quote Still wondering if you have a pink pistol though. None of my pistols are pink. Wouldn't that be a hoot though? Maybe I can get my Kimber 1911 .45 Ultra-Carry powder coated. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #42 March 15, 2007 Quote I'm not near as conservative as Bill O'Reilly either. At least he isn't dangerous. I can't say I agree with you there. Who do you think has more influence, a Soros or a Scaife and their millions or a Bill O'Reilly and his prime time slot on the "we distort, you abide" channel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #43 March 15, 2007 Quote [ Interesting enough..........I just saw on Fox that George Soros bought $62 MILLION in Halliburton stock. That's why he's rich. It's a smart move. This way he can use "Halliburton" money to attack Halliburton. Smart is the man who shoots his enemies with their own bullets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
