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Al Gore, not practicing what he preaches

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>IOW, he has no special needs.

You know for a fact he has fewer special needs than, say, Laura Bush? I think you have no idea what 'special needs' either one of them has, and are just making shit up at this point.



Yes, I know for a fact that Gore has fewer special needs than the First Lady.

Didn't you watch Air Force One?

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http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/...e.php?article_id=367

Energy conservation, just for the rest of us so that Gore can live in style.



http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Countdown-Gore-Energy.mov

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I sure think Gore could do better, but he's already doing better than most of us. What difference have YOU made?



He has TALKED a good game I will grant you that. But his actions do not match his words.

As for me, well I bet I could do better. I recycle, built a house as close to work as I could...though I would really have liked to live farther away. All my appliances are "Energy Star" though they cost more to buy, looked at a hybrid but do not trust them yet. My next car could very well be one....ect. I would love to be able to do all the things BillV did to his house, but I am not an engineer.....On the other hand I don't make movies about the environment and then live in a manner that goes against my words.

I could do better, as most of us could...Anyone got some great sources to help guide me?

But the fact is I am not saying one thing then doing another.

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Does Gore's SUV create more CO2 than Bush's Air Force 1, and the fleet of presidential limos?



I am sure AF1 and the limos create more. But those are not Bush's. But Bush's house is more green than Gores, and I find that ironic.

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I am sure AF1 and the limos create more. But those are not Bush's. But Bush's house is more green than Gores, and I find that ironic.



Whose word are you taking for this? The same source that generated Pelosi - "I want my jet"?:D
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Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green?

I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best.

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Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green?

I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best.



I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea.
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So, Al should at least be saying in his speeches, "If, like me, you can't or don't want to make the personal changes necessary to save the planet, then you should pay some money into a fund so that others will make changes to offset our bad ways."

If more and more people buy the offsets, won't they have trouble spending the money effectively? Sounds like a great possibility for a slush fund to me. If a large enough percentage of people chose that method to be 'green', then wouldn't it be impossible to offset them?
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oh for fuck sake.... made it throught the first page but can't be bothered to go through the second. apologies if i am repeating someone else who is paying attention.

clarity here Olbermann on Gore’s Energy Use: Setting the Record Straight



Oh, please... talk about a biased source!
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Take for instance a minister of a church. He is preaching to the congregation of what he believes they should do and how they should act. He is held more accountable by his position. Lets say he gets caught at a local strip club. You liberals would be all over that because he is a hypocrite. Same song as Gore. Maybe he could pay off the congregation and all is ok?:S

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Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green?

I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best.



I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea.



Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe.

What's your "ecological footprint"?

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Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green?

I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best.



I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea.



Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe.

What's your "ecological footprint"?



Who said it neutralizes it? Not me.
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Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green?

I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best.



I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea.



Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe.

What's your "ecological footprint"?



Who said it neutralizes it? Not me.



Okay. How about explaining this - "I sure think Gore could do better, but he's already doing better than most of us."

Please be honest enough to address both sides of the story, not just his "green" measures.

What's your "ecological footprint"?

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Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game.

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I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO :P



1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools.

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Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game.


You must have scored in the 30s or 40s. :D:D:D

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I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO :P



1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools.


Pretty good recall for for a one year old. :o

Oh. That's right. You turned two that year. Everybody remembers life as a two year old.

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Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game.


You must have scored in the 30s or 40s. :D:D:D



I don't take silly online quizzes.:P

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I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO :P



1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools.


Pretty good recall for for a one year old. :o

Oh. That's right. You turned two that year. Everybody remembers life as a two year old.



Not my fault if you have a poor memory.:P
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>Everybody remembers life as a two year old.

I think you have just won the 2007 Speaker's Corner award for the "Most effort spent to find something to bitch about." We'll send you the trophy just as soon as you can find something wrong with it.

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I think you should win the award for bad form among moderators. Insults such as this, predicting that specific members would say awful things, and general use of a lot of crappy analogies is what puts you on top of the podium.
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I don't take silly online quizzes.:P



Of course, you're above such petty amusements.

Think your post count will top 20,000 this month?



Shortly after yours reaches 2,000.
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I don't take silly online quizzes.:P



Of course, you're above such petty amusements.

Think your post count will top 20,000 this month?



Shortly after yours reaches 2,000.



20,000 - ranked 6th highest on site

I'm still trying to break into the top 300. :ph34r:

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