kelpdiver 2 #151 March 1, 2007 Quote>IOW, he has no special needs. You know for a fact he has fewer special needs than, say, Laura Bush? I think you have no idea what 'special needs' either one of them has, and are just making shit up at this point. Yes, I know for a fact that Gore has fewer special needs than the First Lady. Didn't you watch Air Force One? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #152 March 1, 2007 Quotehttp://www.tennesseepolicy.org/...e.php?article_id=367 Energy conservation, just for the rest of us so that Gore can live in style. http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Countdown-Gore-Energy.mov Get your facts straight before you repeat propaganda..Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #153 March 2, 2007 QuoteI sure think Gore could do better, but he's already doing better than most of us. What difference have YOU made? He has TALKED a good game I will grant you that. But his actions do not match his words. As for me, well I bet I could do better. I recycle, built a house as close to work as I could...though I would really have liked to live farther away. All my appliances are "Energy Star" though they cost more to buy, looked at a hybrid but do not trust them yet. My next car could very well be one....ect. I would love to be able to do all the things BillV did to his house, but I am not an engineer.....On the other hand I don't make movies about the environment and then live in a manner that goes against my words. I could do better, as most of us could...Anyone got some great sources to help guide me? But the fact is I am not saying one thing then doing another. QuoteDoes Gore's SUV create more CO2 than Bush's Air Force 1, and the fleet of presidential limos? I am sure AF1 and the limos create more. But those are not Bush's. But Bush's house is more green than Gores, and I find that ironic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #154 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteI I am sure AF1 and the limos create more. But those are not Bush's. But Bush's house is more green than Gores, and I find that ironic. Whose word are you taking for this? The same source that generated Pelosi - "I want my jet"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #155 March 2, 2007 Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #156 March 2, 2007 QuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #157 March 2, 2007 So, Al should at least be saying in his speeches, "If, like me, you can't or don't want to make the personal changes necessary to save the planet, then you should pay some money into a fund so that others will make changes to offset our bad ways." If more and more people buy the offsets, won't they have trouble spending the money effectively? Sounds like a great possibility for a slush fund to me. If a large enough percentage of people chose that method to be 'green', then wouldn't it be impossible to offset them?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #158 March 2, 2007 Quoteoh for fuck sake.... made it throught the first page but can't be bothered to go through the second. apologies if i am repeating someone else who is paying attention. clarity here Olbermann on Gore’s Energy Use: Setting the Record Straight Oh, please... talk about a biased source!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yjumpinoz 0 #159 March 2, 2007 Take for instance a minister of a church. He is preaching to the congregation of what he believes they should do and how they should act. He is held more accountable by his position. Lets say he gets caught at a local strip club. You liberals would be all over that because he is a hypocrite. Same song as Gore. Maybe he could pay off the congregation and all is ok? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #160 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea. Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe. What's your "ecological footprint"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #161 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea. Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe. What's your "ecological footprint"? Who said it neutralizes it? Not me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #162 March 2, 2007 What's your "ecological footprint"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #163 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea. Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe. What's your "ecological footprint"? Who said it neutralizes it? Not me. Okay. How about explaining this - "I sure think Gore could do better, but he's already doing better than most of us." Please be honest enough to address both sides of the story, not just his "green" measures. What's your "ecological footprint"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #164 March 2, 2007 QuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,114 #165 March 2, 2007 > What does that MEAN? What percentage of the earth is dedicated to keeping you alive and playing with your various toys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #166 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #167 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game. Quote I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO 1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools. Want my SSN too?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #168 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game. You must have scored in the 30s or 40s. QuoteQuoteI'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO 1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools. Pretty good recall for for a one year old. Oh. That's right. You turned two that year. Everybody remembers life as a two year old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #169 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game. You must have scored in the 30s or 40s. I don't take silly online quizzes. Quote QuoteQuoteI'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO 1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools. Pretty good recall for for a one year old. Oh. That's right. You turned two that year. Everybody remembers life as a two year old. Not my fault if you have a poor memory.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,114 #170 March 2, 2007 >Everybody remembers life as a two year old. I think you have just won the 2007 Speaker's Corner award for the "Most effort spent to find something to bitch about." We'll send you the trophy just as soon as you can find something wrong with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #171 March 2, 2007 I think you should win the award for bad form among moderators. Insults such as this, predicting that specific members would say awful things, and general use of a lot of crappy analogies is what puts you on top of the podium.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #172 March 2, 2007 QuoteNot my fault if you have a poor memory. Not my fault that you have a loose understanding of the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #173 March 2, 2007 QuoteI don't take silly online quizzes. Of course, you're above such petty amusements. Think your post count will top 20,000 this month? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #174 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteI don't take silly online quizzes. Of course, you're above such petty amusements. 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DaVinci 0 #155 March 2, 2007 Do you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #156 March 2, 2007 QuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #157 March 2, 2007 So, Al should at least be saying in his speeches, "If, like me, you can't or don't want to make the personal changes necessary to save the planet, then you should pay some money into a fund so that others will make changes to offset our bad ways." If more and more people buy the offsets, won't they have trouble spending the money effectively? Sounds like a great possibility for a slush fund to me. If a large enough percentage of people chose that method to be 'green', then wouldn't it be impossible to offset them?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #158 March 2, 2007 Quoteoh for fuck sake.... made it throught the first page but can't be bothered to go through the second. apologies if i am repeating someone else who is paying attention. clarity here Olbermann on Gore’s Energy Use: Setting the Record Straight Oh, please... talk about a biased source!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yjumpinoz 0 #159 March 2, 2007 Take for instance a minister of a church. He is preaching to the congregation of what he believes they should do and how they should act. He is held more accountable by his position. Lets say he gets caught at a local strip club. You liberals would be all over that because he is a hypocrite. Same song as Gore. Maybe he could pay off the congregation and all is ok? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #160 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea. Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe. What's your "ecological footprint"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #161 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea. Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe. What's your "ecological footprint"? Who said it neutralizes it? Not me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #162 March 2, 2007 What's your "ecological footprint"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #163 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo you not find it ironic that a guy that claims to be green is not really? Or that he uses as you say 'A Republican' method to buy himself to be green? I support what Gore is saying, but he loses some credability in his delivery. Kind of like Rush abusing drugs, and Folley's actions were both hypocrisy at its best. I don't see anything wrong with buying credits if it gets the job done overall. Clearly it won't alleviate local problems, but these are more concerned with things like mercury emissions or acid rain than with CO2 emissions. Even the GOP can have the occasional good idea. Please explain how Gore's paying $450/month neutralizes his $3000/month gas and power bill, as well as his frequent jet setting around the globe. What's your "ecological footprint"? Who said it neutralizes it? Not me. Okay. How about explaining this - "I sure think Gore could do better, but he's already doing better than most of us." Please be honest enough to address both sides of the story, not just his "green" measures. What's your "ecological footprint"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #164 March 2, 2007 QuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #165 March 2, 2007 > What does that MEAN? What percentage of the earth is dedicated to keeping you alive and playing with your various toys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #166 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #167 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game. Quote I'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO 1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools. Want my SSN too?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #168 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game. You must have scored in the 30s or 40s. QuoteQuoteI'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO 1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools. Pretty good recall for for a one year old. Oh. That's right. You turned two that year. Everybody remembers life as a two year old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #169 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat's your "ecological footprint"? What does that MEAN? Playing dumb again, eh? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2690570;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Find me something sensible, done by an environmental engineer rather than a silly web site with an agenda, and I'll join the game. You must have scored in the 30s or 40s. I don't take silly online quizzes. Quote QuoteQuoteI'm still waiting to hear about your recollections from 1947. LMAO 1947 was not a good year. Very cold winter, coal rationing, food rationing, gas rationing. My parents moved house from Orpington to Beckenham, which pissed off my brother and sister immensely because they had to change schools. Pretty good recall for for a one year old. Oh. That's right. You turned two that year. Everybody remembers life as a two year old. Not my fault if you have a poor memory.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #170 March 2, 2007 >Everybody remembers life as a two year old. I think you have just won the 2007 Speaker's Corner award for the "Most effort spent to find something to bitch about." We'll send you the trophy just as soon as you can find something wrong with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #171 March 2, 2007 I think you should win the award for bad form among moderators. Insults such as this, predicting that specific members would say awful things, and general use of a lot of crappy analogies is what puts you on top of the podium.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #172 March 2, 2007 QuoteNot my fault if you have a poor memory. Not my fault that you have a loose understanding of the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #173 March 2, 2007 QuoteI don't take silly online quizzes. Of course, you're above such petty amusements. Think your post count will top 20,000 this month? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #174 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteI don't take silly online quizzes. Of course, you're above such petty amusements. Think your post count will top 20,000 this month? Shortly after yours reaches 2,000.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #175 March 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't take silly online quizzes. Of course, you're above such petty amusements. Think your post count will top 20,000 this month? Shortly after yours reaches 2,000. 20,000 - ranked 6th highest on site I'm still trying to break into the top 300. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites