SpeedRacer 1 #1 February 24, 2007 clicky I don't think I would do this. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #2 February 24, 2007 Love it. Removes the martyr motivation.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 February 24, 2007 Wankers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #4 February 24, 2007 Quoteclicky I don't think I would do this. Wow. He's really going with the "Hearts and minds" philosophy isn't heDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #5 February 24, 2007 >I don't think I would do this. Let's hope they don't respond in kind. We really don't need to make this more of a holy war than it already is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #6 February 24, 2007 Love it. Removes the martyr motivation.Quote This is a double edged sword, on one hand it does remove that martyr motivation, but at the same time when we're having so much trouble convincing people that we respect their culture and aren't there to change them this isn't the best way to go about it. Can't argue that it's a great PSYOP tool though.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #7 February 24, 2007 I just don't understand what this guy thinks he's going to accomplish with this video. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #8 February 24, 2007 Notoriety. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #9 February 24, 2007 I think its a great idea. Pour pork fat on every ounce of munitions the US has. Make it known that if you die from American munitions you are going to hell. Lets see how many of these people want to face death then."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #10 February 24, 2007 That entire story looks like a fake (or should I say: it stinks?) Watch that man's hand: Dark brown. That giant ring. All is wrong in this video. Don't know which party it created (don't want to know) - it's just needless like a hole in the head. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #11 February 24, 2007 Watch that man's hand: Dark brown. That giant ring. All is wrong in this video. Don't know which party it created (don't want to know) - it's just needless like a hole in the head. Quote I noticed that too and was thinking the same thing, why would the bullets be sitting on an ACU boonie cap, kinda looks like it was staged to look like a soldier. And yeah we can wear civilian clothes over there in our off time but still whats the top he's got on, it's not a uniform, if I were to do something like this I would have a uniform on.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #12 February 24, 2007 QuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my bookDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #13 February 24, 2007 They can't/won't hear you matey (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #14 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. (I'll debate this more later, but I have an appointment - out for now)"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #15 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. Brilliant, so who gives a shit if we fuck it up some more. After all, once you go so far what's the point in trying to make things better, that's just too hard.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #16 February 24, 2007 QuoteThey can't/won't hear you matey Yeah fuck it, I might as well go to the pub. You got any of that vodka left?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #17 February 24, 2007 Just a drop.... it's going down rather well!! and the Mrs is away for the weekend so it's all mine. I'm going to make a new batch of Werthers Original vodka too, for my snowboard tgrip next weekend.. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #18 February 24, 2007 He should be scrapping the bullets across the hand of George Bush and be getting the same effect.¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #19 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. Brilliant, so who gives a shit if we fuck it up some more. After all, once you go so far what's the point in trying to make things better, that's just too hard. And what IS being done to make it better? The current activities are going against making it better. There is no end to this war the US is involved with. Perhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #20 February 24, 2007 QuotePerhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo. Oh, well there's a long term solution.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #21 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuotePerhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo. Oh, well there's a long term solution. You oppose putting pork fat on munitions to put the fear of eternal damnation into the enemy. Are you suggesting that the US does not consider the psychological impact of the weapons it employs? Or maybe this idea is too awful - Better to have Americans killed by people seeking martyrdom than afraid that being killed by an American will send them to hell?"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #22 February 24, 2007 Nope..... better to have no one killed in this senseless cockup of an excuse for a war. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #23 February 24, 2007 QuoteYou oppose putting pork fat on munitions to put the fear of eternal damnation into the enemy. Are you suggesting that the US does not consider the psychological impact of the weapons it employs? Or maybe this idea is too awful - Better to have Americans killed by people seeking martyrdom than afraid that being killed by an American will send them to hell? I have absolutely fuck all respect for anyone's religious sensibilities for the sake of PC. My objections here are because it's a completely bloody stupid idea. The 'psychological effect' of this move (if indeed it is a real american soldier doing it) goes way beyond just the enemy fighters directly exposed to it. It's pissing all over the beliefs of the Iraqis in their own backyard and I think it'll make most of them who hear about it pretty angry.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #24 February 24, 2007 QuoteNope..... better to have no one killed in this senseless cockup of an excuse for a war. Can't disagree with that but there is no peaceful solution to this thing. If the Americans stay the war continues, no end in sight trying beat to anyone with a grudge against the USA that can make their way to Iraq. If the Americans leave the country continues the downward spiral of sectarian violence that erupted when the populace lost their fear of the consequences Saddam would inflict on them. But rather than hijack this thread into one more pointless discussion about the futility of this war the Americans started, back to the discussion of putting the fear of damnation into the enemy by putting pork fat on US munitions."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #25 February 25, 2007 QuoteBut rather than hijack this thread into one more pointless discussion about the futility of this war the Americans started, back to the discussion of putting the fear of damnation into the enemy by putting pork fat on US munitions. Which would be an idiotic, short sighted, limited scope, ultimately counterproductive exercise in unbridled arrogance.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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SpeedRacer 1 #7 February 24, 2007 I just don't understand what this guy thinks he's going to accomplish with this video. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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IanHarrop 43 #9 February 24, 2007 I think its a great idea. Pour pork fat on every ounce of munitions the US has. Make it known that if you die from American munitions you are going to hell. Lets see how many of these people want to face death then."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #10 February 24, 2007 That entire story looks like a fake (or should I say: it stinks?) Watch that man's hand: Dark brown. That giant ring. All is wrong in this video. Don't know which party it created (don't want to know) - it's just needless like a hole in the head. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #11 February 24, 2007 Watch that man's hand: Dark brown. That giant ring. All is wrong in this video. Don't know which party it created (don't want to know) - it's just needless like a hole in the head. Quote I noticed that too and was thinking the same thing, why would the bullets be sitting on an ACU boonie cap, kinda looks like it was staged to look like a soldier. And yeah we can wear civilian clothes over there in our off time but still whats the top he's got on, it's not a uniform, if I were to do something like this I would have a uniform on.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #12 February 24, 2007 QuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my bookDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #13 February 24, 2007 They can't/won't hear you matey (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #14 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. (I'll debate this more later, but I have an appointment - out for now)"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #15 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. Brilliant, so who gives a shit if we fuck it up some more. After all, once you go so far what's the point in trying to make things better, that's just too hard.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #16 February 24, 2007 QuoteThey can't/won't hear you matey Yeah fuck it, I might as well go to the pub. You got any of that vodka left?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #17 February 24, 2007 Just a drop.... it's going down rather well!! and the Mrs is away for the weekend so it's all mine. I'm going to make a new batch of Werthers Original vodka too, for my snowboard tgrip next weekend.. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kamikaze82 0 #18 February 24, 2007 He should be scrapping the bullets across the hand of George Bush and be getting the same effect.¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #19 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. Brilliant, so who gives a shit if we fuck it up some more. After all, once you go so far what's the point in trying to make things better, that's just too hard. And what IS being done to make it better? The current activities are going against making it better. There is no end to this war the US is involved with. Perhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #20 February 24, 2007 QuotePerhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo. Oh, well there's a long term solution.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #21 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuotePerhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo. Oh, well there's a long term solution. You oppose putting pork fat on munitions to put the fear of eternal damnation into the enemy. Are you suggesting that the US does not consider the psychological impact of the weapons it employs? Or maybe this idea is too awful - Better to have Americans killed by people seeking martyrdom than afraid that being killed by an American will send them to hell?"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #22 February 24, 2007 Nope..... better to have no one killed in this senseless cockup of an excuse for a war. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #23 February 24, 2007 QuoteYou oppose putting pork fat on munitions to put the fear of eternal damnation into the enemy. Are you suggesting that the US does not consider the psychological impact of the weapons it employs? Or maybe this idea is too awful - Better to have Americans killed by people seeking martyrdom than afraid that being killed by an American will send them to hell? I have absolutely fuck all respect for anyone's religious sensibilities for the sake of PC. My objections here are because it's a completely bloody stupid idea. The 'psychological effect' of this move (if indeed it is a real american soldier doing it) goes way beyond just the enemy fighters directly exposed to it. It's pissing all over the beliefs of the Iraqis in their own backyard and I think it'll make most of them who hear about it pretty angry.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #24 February 24, 2007 QuoteNope..... better to have no one killed in this senseless cockup of an excuse for a war. Can't disagree with that but there is no peaceful solution to this thing. If the Americans stay the war continues, no end in sight trying beat to anyone with a grudge against the USA that can make their way to Iraq. If the Americans leave the country continues the downward spiral of sectarian violence that erupted when the populace lost their fear of the consequences Saddam would inflict on them. But rather than hijack this thread into one more pointless discussion about the futility of this war the Americans started, back to the discussion of putting the fear of damnation into the enemy by putting pork fat on US munitions."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,611 #25 February 25, 2007 QuoteBut rather than hijack this thread into one more pointless discussion about the futility of this war the Americans started, back to the discussion of putting the fear of damnation into the enemy by putting pork fat on US munitions. Which would be an idiotic, short sighted, limited scope, ultimately counterproductive exercise in unbridled arrogance.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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jakee 1,611 #12 February 24, 2007 QuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my bookDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 February 24, 2007 They can't/won't hear you matey (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #14 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. (I'll debate this more later, but I have an appointment - out for now)"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #15 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. Brilliant, so who gives a shit if we fuck it up some more. After all, once you go so far what's the point in trying to make things better, that's just too hard.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #16 February 24, 2007 QuoteThey can't/won't hear you matey Yeah fuck it, I might as well go to the pub. You got any of that vodka left?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 February 24, 2007 Just a drop.... it's going down rather well!! and the Mrs is away for the weekend so it's all mine. I'm going to make a new batch of Werthers Original vodka too, for my snowboard tgrip next weekend.. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamikaze82 0 #18 February 24, 2007 He should be scrapping the bullets across the hand of George Bush and be getting the same effect.¡YA BASTA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #19 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think its a great idea. Yeah. What better way to foster growing resentment and hatred among Iraqis in his area? Anything we can do to encourage the spirit of Jihad is just fine in my book As if the current process isn't already doing a good job at fostering resentment and hatred among people through the world toward the USA. Brilliant, so who gives a shit if we fuck it up some more. After all, once you go so far what's the point in trying to make things better, that's just too hard. And what IS being done to make it better? The current activities are going against making it better. There is no end to this war the US is involved with. Perhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #20 February 24, 2007 QuotePerhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo. Oh, well there's a long term solution.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #21 February 24, 2007 QuoteQuotePerhaps putting the fear of eternal damnation into the other side might work better than sticking with the status quo. Oh, well there's a long term solution. You oppose putting pork fat on munitions to put the fear of eternal damnation into the enemy. Are you suggesting that the US does not consider the psychological impact of the weapons it employs? Or maybe this idea is too awful - Better to have Americans killed by people seeking martyrdom than afraid that being killed by an American will send them to hell?"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #22 February 24, 2007 Nope..... better to have no one killed in this senseless cockup of an excuse for a war. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #23 February 24, 2007 QuoteYou oppose putting pork fat on munitions to put the fear of eternal damnation into the enemy. Are you suggesting that the US does not consider the psychological impact of the weapons it employs? Or maybe this idea is too awful - Better to have Americans killed by people seeking martyrdom than afraid that being killed by an American will send them to hell? I have absolutely fuck all respect for anyone's religious sensibilities for the sake of PC. My objections here are because it's a completely bloody stupid idea. The 'psychological effect' of this move (if indeed it is a real american soldier doing it) goes way beyond just the enemy fighters directly exposed to it. It's pissing all over the beliefs of the Iraqis in their own backyard and I think it'll make most of them who hear about it pretty angry.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #24 February 24, 2007 QuoteNope..... better to have no one killed in this senseless cockup of an excuse for a war. Can't disagree with that but there is no peaceful solution to this thing. If the Americans stay the war continues, no end in sight trying beat to anyone with a grudge against the USA that can make their way to Iraq. If the Americans leave the country continues the downward spiral of sectarian violence that erupted when the populace lost their fear of the consequences Saddam would inflict on them. But rather than hijack this thread into one more pointless discussion about the futility of this war the Americans started, back to the discussion of putting the fear of damnation into the enemy by putting pork fat on US munitions."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #25 February 25, 2007 QuoteBut rather than hijack this thread into one more pointless discussion about the futility of this war the Americans started, back to the discussion of putting the fear of damnation into the enemy by putting pork fat on US munitions. Which would be an idiotic, short sighted, limited scope, ultimately counterproductive exercise in unbridled arrogance.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites