rehmwa 2
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Did I mention that the 65yr old dipshit showed up with an un boresighted scope on his rifle and had rounds varied in his magazine from 125grains to 180 grains all in 30-06????
His POS son also shot his dads brand new truck through both doors.
I don't hunt with them anymore and the fact that they were even brought with was enough to bust up our hunting party.
Now we are back to two to three guys and all ex military.
His POS son also shot his dads brand new truck through both doors.
I don't hunt with them anymore and the fact that they were even brought with was enough to bust up our hunting party.
Now we are back to two to three guys and all ex military.
kallend 2,147
QuoteQuoteOne guy ojn the gun wielding right said that he didn't like a particular type of gun and everyone else on the gun wielding right is baying for his blood because he doesn't like every single type of gun there is.
I've never seen a witch-hunt like it.
You see it every day. In the Democratic party and the Republican party. Disagree with one single aspect of the far wings that define the platform and let the stoning an dburning begin.
Who's calling hunting and fishing a "sport"? Maybe an activity, but not a sport. "Sportsman".... what an abuse of a word.
Hunting and fishing are covered in the "Sports" section of most US newspapers, and the equipment is found in "Sporting" goods stores. Google "hunting sports" and you get thousands of hits.
If the animals shot back, I'd consider it a sport.
Of course, there is the Dick Cheney factor to consider.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
That would cut down on the Fudd population for sure.
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John,you may wanna hide that hat!
rehmwa 2
QuoteIf the animals shot back, I'd consider it a sport.
Of course, there is the Dick Cheney factor to consider.
He didn't shoot "back" so much as shoot 'at'. But as 'animals' go....
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steve1 5
QuoteI REALLY doubt you have ever seen someone hunting with an M-16, which would be illegal. An AR-15 maybe. Both my AR-15 and my AK came with 5 round mags. Also, have you ever actually seen anyone with one of those rifles ripping off multiple wild shots and wounding animals, or just heard rumors of it happening?
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In my mind an AR-15 and M-16 are functionally the same. The AR came out first. With superficial modifications, it was named the M-16. The Airforce had several versions prior to the AR-15. Most all of them were very similiar.
Aren't M-16's with the automatic sear removed legal. I assumed they were. I sure can't see why an AR-15 is legal and an M-16 isn't as long as neither is full auto.
No, I haven't seen anyone ripping off multiple shots with an AR-15, an M-16, or an AK. I try to steer clear of hunters like that....But like I say I hear idiots firing like a machine gun nearly every Fall. The sound echoes a mile away.....Steve1
steve1 5
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NOW you're getting it... blame the idiots that are mis-using the weapon, not the weapon itself.
[ I'm not very tickled to see anyone afield with one.....Steve1
So, you're saying you have problems with the cosmetics of the weapon, and not how the weapon is being used?
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Like I said in my original post, I'm sure there are probably people who hunt with an automatic rifle with a big clip, who do hunt ethically. I realize slob hunters with bolt actions do exist, and I'm not condoning their behavior any more than I do a slob hunter who is ripping off multiple shots with a so called assault rifle while hunting.
My feelings are that if you have 30 more rounds available at the touch of a finger, hunters will do just that....keep right on firing. I hear it every hunting season. With another rifle, (other than a semi-auto)you are more likely to hunt ethically, in my opinion.
Someone mentioned that AR-15's only come with a small clip. The thing is, can't larger magazines be obtained very easily. Warped Skydiver mentioned his weapon is complete with a 30 round magazine.
As far as cosmetics of a weapon, I have no fear of looking at a semi-auto, whether it is an M-16 or an automatic pistol, so don't try to put words in my mouth.
To me hunting is all about responsibility and respect. When I hunt I respect the animal I kill. I respect the environment, and I even respect other hunters. Hunting with AR- 15 or AK cheapens what our sport is all about, in my opinion. Hunting is more than just an activity where someone can go out and kill something while playing Army.....Steve1
Like I said in my original post, I'm sure there are probably people who hunt with an automatic rifle(against the law in many states and regulated heavily, made illegal to hunt with I believe in all 50 States currently with a big clip, who do hunt ethically.
I realize slob hunters with bolt actions do exist, and I'm not condoning their behavior any more than I do a slob hunter who is ripping off multiple shots with a so called assault rifle while hunting.
My feelings are that if you have 30 more rounds(Many states have regulations banning this during hunting season) available at the touch of a finger, hunters will do just that....keep right on firing. I hear it every hunting season. With another rifle, (other than a semi-auto)you are more likely to hunt ethically, in my opinion.
Someone mentioned that AR-15's only come with a small clip(that's called amagazine, a clip is what magazines can be fed from, think stripper clips from the old M1 Garand.
The thing is, can't larger magazines be obtained very easily.(considering the amount of large capacity magazines that are out there it is the least likey type used in crimes by any form of statistical analysis, Warped Skydiver mentioned his weapon is complete with a 30 round magazine.(Am I a criminal? or does that make me more likely to kill 30 people or any at all?)
As far as cosmetics of a weapon, I have no fear of looking at a semi-auto(is a Full Auto Machinegun scary for you to look at?, it is an inanimate object), whether it is an M-16 or an automatic pistol, so don't try to put words in my mouth.
To me hunting is all about responsibility and respect. When I hunt I respect the animal I kill. I respect the environment, and I even respect other hunters. Hunting with AR- 15 or AK cheapens what our sport is all about, in my opinion.( you are entitled to that opinion but please explain how it cheapens anything ok?)
I realize slob hunters with bolt actions do exist, and I'm not condoning their behavior any more than I do a slob hunter who is ripping off multiple shots with a so called assault rifle while hunting.
My feelings are that if you have 30 more rounds(Many states have regulations banning this during hunting season) available at the touch of a finger, hunters will do just that....keep right on firing. I hear it every hunting season. With another rifle, (other than a semi-auto)you are more likely to hunt ethically, in my opinion.
Someone mentioned that AR-15's only come with a small clip(that's called amagazine, a clip is what magazines can be fed from, think stripper clips from the old M1 Garand.
The thing is, can't larger magazines be obtained very easily.(considering the amount of large capacity magazines that are out there it is the least likey type used in crimes by any form of statistical analysis, Warped Skydiver mentioned his weapon is complete with a 30 round magazine.(Am I a criminal? or does that make me more likely to kill 30 people or any at all?)
As far as cosmetics of a weapon, I have no fear of looking at a semi-auto(is a Full Auto Machinegun scary for you to look at?, it is an inanimate object), whether it is an M-16 or an automatic pistol, so don't try to put words in my mouth.
To me hunting is all about responsibility and respect. When I hunt I respect the animal I kill. I respect the environment, and I even respect other hunters. Hunting with AR- 15 or AK cheapens what our sport is all about, in my opinion.( you are entitled to that opinion but please explain how it cheapens anything ok?)
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Steve I can respect your opinion and I would like to take this opprtunity to clear up a few facts.
First of all we must remember to be very aware that most of the public has no idea about anything firearms related so anything they read will be accepted as fact in the light of their ignorance on tis matter.
So we must be try and be careful, correctly state the FACTS, and not interject hyperbole nor opinion.
The highlighted parts of your post is what I would like to address and maybe we can then show the public at large the truth about guns.
steve1 5
QuoteFuck that guy....you wanna be his friend?
Go ahead....
I can outhunt, and outshoot that old fucking retard any day of the year in any weather if given the cash and time to travel.
I would stake my life on it.
His was a life of priveledge and notoriety, and yet he took a shit on everyone.
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Jim Zumbo is one of the most respected gun writers and hunters in the world today. For the past 50 or more years he has ate and slept hunting. Along with writing he hunts for a living. To say you are a better hunter.....I seriously have my doubts....Steve1
QuoteQuoteFuck that guy....you wanna be his friend?
Go ahead....
I can outhunt, and outshoot that old fucking retard any day of the year in any weather if given the cash and time to travel.
I would stake my life on it.
His was a life of priveledge and notoriety, and yet he took a shit on everyone.
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Jim Zumbo is one of the most respected gun writers and hunters in the world today. For the past 50 or more years he has ate and slept hunting. Along with writing he hunts for a living. To say you are a better hunter.....I seriously have my doubts....Steve1
He is NOT and has never been a "Gun Writer"
You can doubt it all you like, I am willing to demonstrate my abilities if you or anyone has the cash to provide me the opportunity to take the challenge of outhunting and outshooting Mr. Zumbo.
I guess hwat I am saying is much akin to skydivers being careful of stating facts and not confusing an issue when speaking to the public or the media about our sport or accidents involving skydiving.
Andy9o8 2
Quoteprovide me the opportunity to take the challenge of outhunting and outshooting Mr. Zumbo.
Depends. Would you guys be shooting at something "neutral", or at each other?
I doubt Mr. Zumbo at his advanced age, and his background would ever risk himself in that situation.
You see it every day. In the Democratic party and the Republican party. Disagree with one single aspect of the far wings that define the platform and let the stoning an dburning begin.
Who's calling hunting and fishing a "sport"? Maybe an activity, but not a sport. "Sportsman".... what an abuse of a word.
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
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