JackC 0 #1 February 15, 2007 It's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. I was wondering if this was true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #2 February 15, 2007 Which question are we supposed to be answering with our vote? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #3 February 15, 2007 Well spotted, edited to remove the ambiguity. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #4 February 15, 2007 I think it's true that an atheist would not be president at this point in time. That may change in the far future. I personally would vote for an atheist. But that wouldn't be my reason for voteing for him/her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #5 February 15, 2007 QuoteIt's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. Do you think this is true? Just wondering. OOPS I answered the question: Would you vote for a confirmed atheist for president? And said Yes. If I had answered the question: It's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. Do you think this is true? I would have said No Of course that fact that I can't vote for any US president because I'm Canadian should not be relevant. If I was American I would have voted the same way. Yes or um... do I mean No...? The results of this poll will be very telling "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pmw515 0 #6 February 15, 2007 QuoteIt's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. I was wondering if this was true. That may be true; however, you must remember that dz.com represents only a cross section of the population, not the entire nation. I personally would vote for an atheist if i agreed w/ his politics. He would have to be able to pronounce "nuclear" correctly, however. How bout you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 February 15, 2007 Actually it wouldn't much matter to me what his religion was, it would matter what sort of a president I'd think he'd make. If he was in some religion that prohibited its members from speaking in public or using modern technology, then that might be a factor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 February 15, 2007 At this time, I don't think there's any way a Republican atheist could win. I think a Democratic one would lose too many votes in the midwest in key states like Ohio, but it's closer to feasible. The Southern Democrats all went Red, so it's doesn't really matter anymore. Florida is the key state - are the retirerees there especially religious? Best scenario is a non crazy independent in a lackluster year for the two parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #9 February 15, 2007 Quote He would have to be able to pronounce "nuclear" correctly, however. How bout you? Yes, I'd say being able to pronounce the word nuclear is very important Personally, I'd vote for whoever I thought was the best person for the job. Religion would only be an issue for me if I thought the candidates beliefs would get in the way of the job. But I'm British so it's only academic really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #10 February 15, 2007 Quote It's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. Do you think this is true? I would have said No at least for the near future this is unfortunately true 84% Americans think atheists are unacceptable to their populus. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 February 15, 2007 Quote"a confirmed atheist" By and large, atheists don't get confirmation. That's...pretty much the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #12 February 15, 2007 I wonder where they find these people. I'm a Christian, but I wouldn't have any problems with an atheist being President. He's just a politician, after all. Of course, I'm a Catholic, and we already have a Pope. Does anyone else get the feeling that the Religious Right want the President of the USA to be a sort of Protestant Pope? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 February 15, 2007 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #14 February 15, 2007 Quote I wonder where they find these people. I'm a Christian, but I wouldn't have any problems with an atheist being President. He's just a politician, after all. Several of them can be found on this forum - the subject has rolled around before. Apparently without support of the bible we are likely to have no morals. So even though people who claim to follow the bible might not actually follow it and therefore have no morals either - it is still safer not to vote for an atheist. At least that was how it was explained to me anywayDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #15 February 15, 2007 It is not possible for one of my fellow atheists to be elected fro any level of public office in this country (USA), now or at any time in the concieveable future. We are a much hated and vilified minority. Unless and until it is socially acceptable to critically review religous beliefs, that situation will not change.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #16 February 15, 2007 QuoteDoes anyone else get the feeling that the Religious Right want the President of the USA to be a sort of Protestant Pope? That would be really scary! I think that the religious right wants a president that they can influence to get their own way. Ideally they want government (the President and the Congress) remove sex education from the classroom, outlaw condoms, outlaw abortion, outlaw rock n'roll, require their prayers in school, enforce dress codes in schools, ban Sunday shopping, etc.. It boils down to limiting the people rights to act or think in ways not acceptable to the religious right. Basically turn the USA into Iran but lead by Christians rather than Muslims. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 February 16, 2007 QuoteIt is not possible for one of my fellow atheists to be elected fro any level of public office in this country (USA), now or at any time in the concieveable future. We are a much hated and vilified minority. Unless and until it is socially acceptable to critically review religous beliefs, that situation will not change. I frankly presume - can't prove, but I believe it - that there's a fair share of politicians who, intellectually and in their hearts, really don't think there is a God, but make all the right noises (going to church with the spouse, attending prayer breakfasts, etc.) just to be properly PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #18 February 16, 2007 QuoteI frankly presume - can't prove, but I believe it - that there's a fair share of politicians who, intellectually and in their hearts, really don't think there is a God, but make all the right noises (going to church with the spouse, attending prayer breakfasts, etc.) just to be properly PC. I dare say that most professing Christians in general are just going through the motions and aren't really sincere in their hearts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #19 February 16, 2007 QuoteIt is not possible for one of my fellow atheists to be elected fro any level of public office in this country (USA), now or at any time in the concieveable future. We are a much hated and vilified minority. Unless and until it is socially acceptable to critically review religous beliefs, that situation will not change. Hehe, did anyone see that CNN panel debate on atheism? The panel was two christians and a jew with not an atheist in sight The debate was two people saying "Atheists should shut the hell up" and one guy saying "I don't agree with anything they stand for but they shouldn't have to shut up" Fair and balanced reporting at its finest - God bless AmericaDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 February 16, 2007 QuoteActually it wouldn't much matter to me what his religion was, it would matter what sort of a president I'd think he'd make. If he was in some religion that prohibited its members from speaking in public or using modern technology, then that might be a factor. UH OH, tippiing your hand Bill, you're saying you wouldn't vote for a female: his, he'd Joking, I know you're voting for Hillary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #21 February 16, 2007 Why not, we voted in a monkey, let's vote in ANY human this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #22 February 16, 2007 QuoteIt's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. I was wondering if this was true. What type of atheist? I would NOT vote for anybody that is fanatical about their religion (including atheists). Or fanatical about anything else subjective (examples, feminism, anti-feminism, race, etc) If it's like most people with religious beliefs, personal and not in your face, then it's absolutely not a factor at all. Their promises/platform and character only matter. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #23 February 16, 2007 Quote I frankly presume - can't prove, but I believe it - that there's a fair share of politicians who, intellectually and in their hearts, really don't think there is a God, but make all the right noises (going to church with the spouse, attending prayer breakfasts, etc.) just to be properly PC. Since the dawn of religion generals and soldiers have prayed for victory and many good kills of evil enemy soldiers (who of course prayed for the same). Politicians are not much different - at night they pray for the political death of their enemy alike and for saving if they get cornered themselves. Fear (mostly of death), closely followed by greed (for power), are the main driving forces of religion. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikempb 0 #24 February 16, 2007 I wouldnt vote for an athiest for president because I dont believe you should seperate God from Gov.Obviously as a beliver ( christian) I think separating the two is a mistake for many reasons. I Dont believe in religon because of any fear or greed just a real strong love for God... pretty simple huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JackC 0 #25 February 16, 2007 QuoteWhat type of atheist? One that has no faith in God presumably. QuoteI would NOT vote for anybody that is fanatical about their religion (including atheists). Or fanatical about anything else subjective What about someone who was fanatical about their politics? Politics is subjective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
rehmwa 2 #22 February 16, 2007 QuoteIt's often said that an atheist would never get in as president of the USA. I was wondering if this was true. What type of atheist? I would NOT vote for anybody that is fanatical about their religion (including atheists). Or fanatical about anything else subjective (examples, feminism, anti-feminism, race, etc) If it's like most people with religious beliefs, personal and not in your face, then it's absolutely not a factor at all. Their promises/platform and character only matter. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #23 February 16, 2007 Quote I frankly presume - can't prove, but I believe it - that there's a fair share of politicians who, intellectually and in their hearts, really don't think there is a God, but make all the right noises (going to church with the spouse, attending prayer breakfasts, etc.) just to be properly PC. Since the dawn of religion generals and soldiers have prayed for victory and many good kills of evil enemy soldiers (who of course prayed for the same). Politicians are not much different - at night they pray for the political death of their enemy alike and for saving if they get cornered themselves. Fear (mostly of death), closely followed by greed (for power), are the main driving forces of religion. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikempb 0 #24 February 16, 2007 I wouldnt vote for an athiest for president because I dont believe you should seperate God from Gov.Obviously as a beliver ( christian) I think separating the two is a mistake for many reasons. I Dont believe in religon because of any fear or greed just a real strong love for God... pretty simple huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #25 February 16, 2007 QuoteWhat type of atheist? One that has no faith in God presumably. QuoteI would NOT vote for anybody that is fanatical about their religion (including atheists). Or fanatical about anything else subjective What about someone who was fanatical about their politics? Politics is subjective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
