labrys 0 #26 February 6, 2007 QuoteI'd think "thank god those guys aren't going to skydive!" Who cares what other people think about whether skydiving is wrong? (It surely is "unnatural" - but that's a different discussion.) Alright, Bill. I get your point. Maybe it was a bad analogy. I've never known any of my skydiving friends to be beaten to a bloody pulp for jumping. I wish I could say the same about my gay friends who dared to stand a little too close together on the street. The ad didn't offend me. The fact that a candy company paid professional athletes to share their homophobic opinions with the public does. Anything that links violence and homosexuality offends me. Try being friendless on a dark street and having a gang of young men start hurling homophobic insults at you. All you can do it hope it stops at the insults and doesn't turn into something that's going to hurt or kill you. Having the athletes those little fuckers look up to paid to reinforce that attitude pisses me off. It's not an issue of thick skin. It can be an acute interest in surviving in peace.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #27 February 6, 2007 QuoteIf there were a massive, well-funded, ideologically minded anti-skydiving movement with hundreds of years of passionate vitriol behind it, if skydivers were murdered for their sport, etc, etc, then you might feel highly publicized reactions like this were of more concern. Thanks, narcimund.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #28 February 6, 2007 "...one of which includes the two men violently attacking one another — which sends a dangerous message to the public condoning violence against gay Americans." what!!! umm, where in that commercial does it show it is right to beat up gay population? what i read of it was, .. MAN IT UP! 'real men can take the pain. .. not beating up gay. sheesh, i'm sick of today society and how PC it has to be, always taking everything and twisting it in ways it should not go. way to go snickers! you are defidently getting free air time!CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #29 February 6, 2007 Quotewhat!!! umm, where in that commercial does it show it is right to beat up gay population? what i read of it was, .. MAN IT UP! 'real men can take the pain. .. not beating up gay. sheesh, i'm sick of today society and how PC it has to be, always taking everything and twisting it in ways it should not go. In case you missed it when it was mentioned the first 5 times: There were several versions of the ad. Maybe you didn't see the one where they beat each other up to prove they were manly.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #30 February 6, 2007 Quote In case you missed it when it was mentioned the first 5 times: There were several versions of the ad. Maybe you didn't see the one where they beat each other up to prove they were manly. yes, that is the one that i am talking about. how does .. a guy taking a 'blow' to prove he is manly, say that it is ok to beat up gay population? .. that quote that i had was from one of the linked articles posted THIS ONECLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #31 February 6, 2007 Quotewhat!!! umm, where in that commercial does it show it is right to beat up gay population? what i read of it was, .. MAN IT UP! 'real men can take the pain. .. not beating up gay. sheesh, i'm sick of today society and how PC it has to be, always taking everything and twisting it in ways it should not go. Okay, Sherm. I'll bite. Are gay men "real men"?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #32 February 6, 2007 yes. that is why i put 'real men' in the single quote .. *looks back, woops, i forgot to put the end ' in. .. but then, depending on your views, and the gay man, the answer could easily be NO. ... If it is in the belief that they are a woman born with a mans part and such, which is the case for some homosexual men.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #33 February 6, 2007 QuoteIf it is in the belief that they are a woman born with a mans part and such, which is the case for some homosexual men. . Nope, not. Maybe you meant transexual or transgendered, which is not the same as homosexual. You're giving a classic example of why this shit pissed homosexuals off. You clearly agree that it's okay or funny for these moron mechanics to be violent to prove they are "real men" after they accidentaly kiss. I know at least one Navy fighter pilot who's really going to be annoyed at the suggestion that he's not a "real man". He's on his fourth tour and he's getting a little cranky.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #34 February 6, 2007 I'm done, this is not going to go anywhere else than back and forth. 'real men' is the stereotipical view of what a macho man is. when you asked if i thought that gay men are real men, i said YES. perhaps you should reread it as it is, rather than looking for soemthing to attack.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #35 February 6, 2007 Considering that in between the kiss and the violence (referring to the most controversial wrench/car hood one) there's this dialog: Hat Guy: "I think we just accidentally kissed." No-hat Guy: "Quick do something manly." ...and considering that Hat Guy clearly stands there allowing himself to get hit with the wrench ...and considering that No-hat Guy clearly bends over allowing himself to get hit with the car hood ...it seems pretty unreasonable if not completely outrageous that anyone would say this ad advocates violence against gays. Even in this ad, it's clear these are just two guys who wanted to reaffirm their "manhood." This is clearly a case of people just looking for something to bitch about. --Head And, oh yeah, it did say "Do Not Attempt", so there. -- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #36 February 6, 2007 Quote...it seems pretty unreasonable if not completely outrageous that anyone would say this ad advocates violence against gays. It advocates that being violent equals being manly and that being violent proves that you are not gay. it implies that being gay makes one "unmanly" Big difference, same negative message. It's easy to understand why you don't get it. You've never had to deal with it.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #37 February 6, 2007 >The ad didn't offend me. Didn't offend me either. >Try being friendless on a dark street and having a gang of young men >start hurling homophobic insults at you. All you can do it hope it stops at >the insults and doesn't turn into something that's going to hurt or kill you. Try being actually mugged in Times Square! If I took your tack, I would be offended every time I saw a movie 'glorifying' muggers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #38 February 6, 2007 >It advocates that being violent equals being manly and that being violent proves that you are not gay. I took it as "doing stupid guy tricks proves you're a 'real man.' " The commercial would have had the same message had they chugged bad beer or ridden a bike off a ramp and wiped out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #39 February 6, 2007 There's a difference between implying that being gay makes one "unmanly" and advocating violence against gays. This ad does not advocate violence against gays which was the point of my post. --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #40 February 7, 2007 QuoteQuote...it seems pretty unreasonable if not completely outrageous that anyone would say this ad advocates violence against gays. It advocates that being violent equals being manly and that being violent proves that you are not gay. it implies that being gay makes one "unmanly" Big difference, same negative message. It's easy to understand why you don't get it. You've never had to deal with it. Maybe if they'd punched each other. Violence? Did you see the same commercial I did? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #41 February 7, 2007 QuoteMaybe if they'd punched each other. Violence? Did you see the same commercial I did? Apparently not. Did you see the one that ends with one guy getting smacked with a huge crescent wrench and the other being smashed under the hood of the car? Either way, I still think this is much ado about nothing. And the acting's horrible too! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #42 February 7, 2007 QuoteTry being actually mugged in Times Square! If I took your tack, I would be offended every time I saw a movie 'glorifying' muggers. I haven't been mugged in Times Square. I have been left on the side of the road by an EMS crew after an automobile accident (with a few inches of open head wound) because they saw "gay" stickers on my car. It was the height of the AIDS scare. Didn't matter to them that I was in the lowest risk group on the planet. Your muggers targeted people at random.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #43 February 7, 2007 >Your muggers targeted people at random. I was mugged because I was in a group of white college students, and we looked like easy marks. But that didn't lead me to see myself as part of a group of victims - at least, not for long. Shit happens to many people for many reasons. Criminals mug rich-looking white people. Homophobes beat up gays. Racists beat up blacks. That's all bad, and for a short time I did see the world from the eyes of a 'mugging victim.' But I got over that, and nowadays movies about muggers don't bug me. (Although it did give me more of a perspective on the issue,) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #44 February 7, 2007 I thought it was funny. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #45 February 7, 2007 Quoteactually, its a broader problem than that. In the last 20 years or so we have seen groups & organizations crop up that seem to be actively seeking out new and creative ways of getting offended. Moderators for example? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #46 February 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteMaybe if they'd punched each other. Violence? Did you see the same commercial I did? Apparently not. Did you see the one that ends with one guy getting smacked with a huge crescent wrench and the other being smashed under the hood of the car? Slapstick. QuoteEither way, I still think this is much ado about nothing. Yup. QuoteAnd the acting's horrible too! All the funnier. --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #47 February 7, 2007 Quote>Your muggers targeted people at random. I was mugged because I was in a group of white college students, and we looked like easy marks. Quote Why didn't you just use some kung fu or chow mein on them? Don't worry I was mugged once in a subway in chicago...but it turned out pretty good I made 220 dollars after I searched their pockets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #48 February 7, 2007 My wife thought it was hot. Who am I to argue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Newbie 0 #49 February 7, 2007 QuoteApparently the Snickers ad from yesterday's Super Bowl (available here, either search by advertiser, or scroll down to the very bottom of the 1st quarter ads) has caused quite a bit of controversy as being an anti-gay ad. Snickers has apparently pulled it from its web site. What do you think? Anti-gay? Poking fun at homophobes? A little of both? How can you guys say this ad isn't controversial?! I mean, no tongues, no soft lighting, no stroking the sides of each others heads, no Barry White. Jeez you people are nuts. For the record, i don't find this ad anti anything. It was funny though. edited for tipoz "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #50 February 9, 2007 Now this is funny. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Andy9o8 2 #48 February 7, 2007 My wife thought it was hot. Who am I to argue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #49 February 7, 2007 QuoteApparently the Snickers ad from yesterday's Super Bowl (available here, either search by advertiser, or scroll down to the very bottom of the 1st quarter ads) has caused quite a bit of controversy as being an anti-gay ad. Snickers has apparently pulled it from its web site. What do you think? Anti-gay? Poking fun at homophobes? A little of both? How can you guys say this ad isn't controversial?! I mean, no tongues, no soft lighting, no stroking the sides of each others heads, no Barry White. Jeez you people are nuts. For the record, i don't find this ad anti anything. It was funny though. edited for tipoz "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #50 February 9, 2007 Now this is funny. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
