SpeedRacer 1 #1 February 2, 2007 Written by a Christian: clicky Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #2 February 2, 2007 I agree with him. The idea that evil is overcome by force in some sort of final war is contrary to the teachings of Christ any way you shake it. It is similar beliefs that lead to crusades and other autrocities. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #3 February 2, 2007 I find the whole "End of Times" mindset pretty troubling. Does anyone have any numbers on how many Christians embrace this thinking. I keep hearing vague terms, like "a lot" or "many" or "a significant number of", to describe them, but I never hear any real estimates, like 20% of Christians or 30 million Americans. Are we talking about 10% of the population or 00.1 percent? As far as I'm concerned, the size and growth rate of this movement matters as to whether or not it's something to get that worked up over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #4 February 2, 2007 I think it would be hard to count, since there's a lot of different versions of the end-times proponents. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #5 February 2, 2007 > find the whole "End of Times" mindset pretty troubling. Does anyone have any numbers on how many Christians embrace this thinking. I keep hearing vague terms, like "a lot" or "many" or "a significant number of", to describe them, but I never hear any real estimates, like 20% of Christians or 30 million Americans. The Religion of Global Warming has many her and possible millions more around the world believing we are all doomed in 10 years or less. > As far as I'm concerned, the size and growth rate of this movement matters as to whether or not it's something to get that worked up over. I agree, when it come to Global Warming Dooms day time keepers, I don't get all that worked up over it. As far as the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, don't know when that trains pulling into the station but I have my ticket paid in full. I must now return to my DZ.COM self imposed Banning for at least a week or two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #6 February 2, 2007 Quote Does anyone have any numbers on how many Christians embrace this thinking. All the Jehovahs Witnessess and most of the tv/radio money-magnets. It makes a good alarmist tool. The JWs also used to tell their kids, "Don't worry about college, etc. It is better to spend your time doing religious work. Things will change very soon." They have since revised this a little. So, they just f-ed up a whole generation of kids and didn't prepare them for real life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #7 February 2, 2007 To those last two posters - you both did a good job of going off on irrelevant tangents. Oooo, lets make if about the GW alarmists. Oooo, lets make it about those wacky Jehovah's Witnesses. Hey Happy, How many JWs do you know personally? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #8 February 2, 2007 well, the JWs do have a history of setting end times dates. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #9 February 2, 2007 One day, maybe, people will realize that God is best described in the English language as a verb, not a noun. That in itself will change alot of mindsets.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #10 February 2, 2007 In Boston it already is a verb. Like when it snows & you have to shovel out a pahking space. Then you have to have someone god it until you can pahk ya cah. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #11 February 2, 2007 QuoteTo those last two posters - you both did a good job of going off on irrelevant tangents. Oooo, lets make if about the GW alarmists. Oooo, lets make it about those wacky Jehovah's Witnesses. Hey Happy, How many JWs do you know personally? The thread is about the issues surrounding the "end times", true?. I was answering the essential question. How does it affect people? My examples: 1- The alarmist fears are used by unscrupulous media personalities to collect money. 2- It prevents children from gaining a reasonable preparation for their adult lives and having a fairy tale view of the future. I think those are two very excellent examples of the troubling impact of believing that the world end is imminent. As far as my personal knowledge, I probably know 200 personally of JWs. My ex was a member for 8-9 years. My house was the site for parties when the "overseer" was visiting. My child, all his friends, their parents, all the elders for three congregations (and a good number of the members). I also attended two large regional meetings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #12 February 2, 2007 > Oooo, lets make if about the GW alarmists. I had to come out of my self imposed banning to respond to the above rebuttal. When it comes to the "End Times", I thought that the Global Warmest Religion had the End of the World, the coming Apocalypse, were all doomed hands down. Hell can't watch the News with out commentary from some talking head from the New GW Religion how if we don't repent and get right with Mother Nature were doomed to Hell fire and or a few Snow Balls. Global Warming alarmest have got the Christians beat hands down when it comes to End Times talking points, Hell they are even given dates now for our pending doom. OK, back to my self imposed DZ.Com Banning, which obviously is subject to change from time to time, much like GW predictions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #13 February 2, 2007 > I thought that the Global Warmest Religion had the End of >the World, the coming Apocalypse, were all doomed hands down. I've been one of the people arguing that we are having a strong effect on the climate, and I don't think we're all doomed within ten years. Indeed even pessimistic forecasts have temperatures rising by less than ten degrees, and sea levels rising by a few feet, by the end of the _century_, not decade. So to whom were you referring? Or did you just make up a strawman? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites