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What's the deal with some people's animosity towards this site?

I've found it to be a great resource for getting basic info. I understand how it's run and see the relevant problems. But by and large, it's pretty credible. And on the contentious topics, there's usually a warning about it being locked or that the accuracy is contested. And sometime the infomation is lacking.

Is it secretly run by Haliburton? Murdock?

Why is it not a credible, objective site?

Who does it favor?

Who does is slight?

What's the deal?

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Since you are new....

any time in the past when anyone used it quite a few of our RIGHTWINGNUTS have denigrated its use as not being allowed because it is NOT authoritative because it can be edited and abused by those evil lefties.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2286357#2286357



Or at least ONE rightwingnut. :P

Then again you do have a knack for making across the board generalizations from one person's actions.

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The problem is that it is simultaneously accurate and wildly inaccurate depending upon which articles you look at.

If the topic is something to the effect of "number of Star Trek episodes" it's an incredibly accurate research tool because essentially there is a large number of people that agree on the subject and it's a fact; there where only a finite amount of episodes. Further the facts can be elaborated upon in nearly perfect detail by fans. Any inaccuracies that slip in are IMMEDIATELY corrected by the greater mass of people editing the topic.

If, on the other hand, the topic is even vaguely controversial, proponents of both sides of the controversy "compete" in their editing of the topic. In fact the side that is "winning" can flip the entry in a very short amount of time, but that says NOTHING about its accuracy.

So, if you want to know somehting that MOST people agree on, it's actually pretty useful, but anything that is controversial . . . its validity may change hour by hour.
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>any time in the past when anyone used it quite a few of our
> RIGHTWINGNUTS have denigrated its use as not being allowed
> because it is NOT authoritative because it can be edited and abused
> by those evil lefties.

Well, to be fair, those same people use it as an authoritative source when it agrees with them:

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2513639;search_string=wikipedia;#2513585

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I find it to be a great site for information just to quell my curiousity about something. I've found info on South Pacific islands, rare species, etc. But, since it is easily edited, I never use it as a source for a paper in any of my classes. And my political veiws have nothing to do with that choice.

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I don't use it as a source, but I'll often use the sources in the articles. At the bottom of most of the articles, there's links to the sites where they got their info, journals, etc... Those can be really useful.



Same here. It is a good "source of sources".

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Entries can be changed by just about anyone - however, it can be a handy place gathering initial information and cites.

It's not to say that all the info on there is wrong - but you definitely need to verify through other means.
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Wouldn't these same problems crop up in the editing of commercial encyclopedias? And wouldn't the problem be more serious, as there would be less input to temper the accuracy of the information?

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Wouldn't these same problems crop up in the editing of commercial encyclopedias?



There would be inadvertant bias, but generally not blatant misrepresentation.

Wanna have some fun?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert
also see
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/01/24/microsoft.wikipedia.ap/index.html

Now, Microsoft isn't exactly known for its stunning creativity. If THEY are doing it, you can only imagine what other evil companys and politicos are doing.
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any time in the past when anyone used it quite a few of our RIGHTWINGNUTS have denigrated its use as not being allowed because it is NOT authoritative because it can be edited and abused by those evil lefties.



Your link shows a guy saying how kids are getting in trouble for using it for college level classes.

But you said " quite a few of our RIGHTWINGNUTS have denigrated its use as not being allowed because it is NOT authoritative "

Another prime example of you exagerating the hell out of something so it fits your agenda.

Though it can be usefull and I have used it to read another example. I don't take it as "fact" and I would never cite it in a paper. Most of my instructors will flat out tell you not to cite it, or they will deduct points.

Yet when he does take points they seemed shocked since most thought it was "fact".

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