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I truely beleive that all those who stand to gain financially from the war should be right there in Iraq.. fighting for that percieved return
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I can't argue with you on that one, but I still have to disagree about bringing troops home because some of them don't want to be there. IIRC you wore a uniform at one time as well and I'm sure you went a place or two you didn't care for, and from what I've seen in these forums you were probably one of the ones who went without trying to skip out of your responsibilites, so you can see where I'm coming from when I say the troops just need to keep at it regardless of what decision are made on capitol hill. Yeah it sucks for those seperated from their loved ones but it's part of the job. And then there's us whacko's that love being over there and fight to go back every time they drag us home:P

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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Well I guess we will just have to meet one of these days.. toss down a couple challenge coins.. and get some serious drinking on...I may not be in the best of shape for running around the mountains at 10000 ft... BUT I can still down copious amounts of alcoholic beverages...AND I dont mind buying for those who actually DO put their butts out there.


Might I suggest Lost Prairie 28 July to Aug 5th??:ph34r:

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I do hope they give our lads the 'heads up' before starting to pull yours out, too...... it might just slip their minds.



Don't worry about it. I believe that the UK is drawing its troops down sometime this year. I don't have a link to the news item I saw that on though.

I hope, that when your troops come home, they are welcomed home as heroes and as symbols of pride to the UK.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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If (and I think we will be to some extent) we are still in Iraq and the Dems win the presidency, what do you think the Dem leader would do?



Convert, and enlist all the terrorists as combatants in the war against Global warming!

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come on Amazon, a vote in the military, your post was nothing more than a shot at me. Don't you have anything better to do with your time. and honestly if they did take a vote I think you'd be surprised at how many are willing to stay.



No its a shot at ALL of thosew who support an ill concieved and poorly thought out war... who will only feel victory is achieved not by negotiation but by a total collapse of the evil doers... dont get me wrong.. I truely beleive that all those who stand to gain financially from the war should be right there in Iraq.. fighting for that percieved return....I think most of us in this country see this war for what it is....and MOST Americans are ready for it to be over.

I knew plenty of guys who wanted to stay in Vietnam... to save face... if face saving is so important.. then by all means.. stay.. just dont make a bunch of people stay who do not want to and do not have very much to gain... and losing them means a HELL of a LOT to their families.



So where's all the Lefties volunteering for Afghanistan? Damn chickenhawks....
Mike
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WELL SINCE YOU WANTED A SHOUTING MATCH>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE READY FOR IT.....



Shouting and swearing are not the same thing.

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BASICALLY IF YOU THINK WAR IS KEWL>>> GO DO IT YOURSELF INSTEAD OF CALLOUSLY SENDING OFF THOSE WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION>> NOT ENRICH YOUR NEO CON BUDDIES.



Do you understand the values of a Neoconservatist? I am not a Neoconservatist, do you not read my posts or do you have trouble comprehending my posts? Reading comprehension is mandatory for any discourse in a written forum ...work on it.



Dude - anyone that isn't 100% against the war is a neocon and a chickenhawk...get with the program
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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So where's all the Lefties volunteering for Afghanistan? Damn chickenhawks....



Perhaps because they are not into that whole WAR MONGER thing as some of you want to be.... and want to drag the rest of our country into incessant and unnessacary WARS to enrich a few of you.

Are you still in the age range that they would take you....???

Spring is coming in the Hidu Kush.. I hear its really stunning scenery....

I think a LOT of our more outspoken right wingers would fit that bill just fine.... but will never do it because the ARMY does not pay anough... as I have been told by several of you in IM's so much for all that RIGHT WING PATRIOTISM.

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So where's all the Lefties volunteering for Afghanistan? Damn chickenhawks....



Perhaps because they are not into that whole WAR MONGER thing as some of you want to be.... and want to drag the rest of our country into incessant and unnessacary WARS to enrich a few of you.

Are you still in the age range that they would take you....???

Spring is coming in the Hidu Kush.. I hear its really stunning scenery....

I think a LOT of our more outspoken right wingers would fit that bill just fine.... but will never do it because the ARMY does not pay anough... as I have been told by several of you in IM's so much for all that RIGHT WING PATRIOTISM.



Ah, yes..."I'm not with you, so I'm against you", so I'm automatically a... lemme see if I can recall all of them... Neo-Con, Nazi, Fascist, Chickenhawk, rePUBEican, warmonger... I'm sure there's more.

As for people that left lucrative jobs to go and fight... Pat Tillman springs to mind and I'm sure there's been plenty more. It's not something I specifically look for, but I'm sure there's information out there.

In regards to patriotism, judging by the response from the Left, I'd say you're probably right in regards to the RIGHT WING PATRIOTISM protecting the country. I'm still waiting to see the lines outside the recuiters in Beverly Hills, etc with all those LEFT WINGERS signing up for Afghanistan.... I expect I'll be waiting 'til Hell freezes over...
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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DUDE.. Uncle Sam needs YOU

YOU like the war

YOU want the war

YOU need to go do something about it.. not the people who think its a waste of american lives and fortune.



I've been in the military or working contracts directly supporting the troops since 1984 - PROVE I'm not doing something constructive.

While you're at it.. .you can PROVE that I like it OR want it.

Until then...I'll be waiting for the news reports on the the lines at the recruiters in Hollywood...
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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So where's all the Lefties volunteering for Afghanistan? Damn chickenhawks....



Perhaps because they are not into that whole WAR MONGER thing as some of you want to be.... and want to drag the rest of our country into incessant and unnessacary WARS to enrich a few of you.

Are you still in the age range that they would take you....???

Spring is coming in the Hidu Kush.. I hear its really stunning scenery....

I think a LOT of our more outspoken right wingers would fit that bill just fine.... but will never do it because the ARMY does not pay anough... as I have been told by several of you in IM's so much for all that RIGHT WING PATRIOTISM.



Ah, yes..."I'm not with you, so I'm against you", so I'm automatically a... lemme see if I can recall all of them... Neo-Con, Nazi, Fascist, Chickenhawk, rePUBEican, warmonger... I'm sure there's more.

As for people that left lucrative jobs to go and fight... Pat Tillman springs to mind and I'm sure there's been plenty more. It's not something I specifically look for, but I'm sure there's information out there.

In regards to patriotism, judging by the response from the Left, I'd say you're probably right in regards to the RIGHT WING PATRIOTISM protecting the country. I'm still waiting to see the lines outside the recuiters in Beverly Hills, etc with all those LEFT WINGERS signing up for Afghanistan.... I expect I'll be waiting 'til Hell freezes over...



She can't answer this one. Nicely done.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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She can't answer this one. Nicely done.



You wish

It’s simple... This Administration has lost the support of most of the American people after LYING to us...
This Administration has lost the support of MOST of the world… those are the people who we needed as allies in our war on terror. Iraq is a quagmire and the most stupid failure of American policy in 40 years.

Want to bet how many of those returning troops who were callously misused are now to be vilified by you Right Wing DEADENDERS ( as Cheney likes to call the Baathist deadenders) as lefties because they went there and saw the things they saw and were treated the way they have been treated. And they no longer support people like you who want to just keep sending more and more of our kids to Iraq with even the NEW Variation of STAY THE COURSE.
A HELL of a lot of returning Vietnam vets changed the views they grew up with because the of the way they were treated by the government while in the military. GEE it’s going on all over again with THESE vets who have been treated by the elitist republicans who view the underclass’s as cannon fodder to enrich themselves.

Pat Tillman volunteered for Afghanistan… look at how his death was handled by your vaunted administration… SHAMEFULL.

If you are so in support of war.. get your asses in uniform and go see for yourself instead of sending others to do your dirty work for you. BUT I seriously doubt that will happen because this administration… like so many who have so much to gain from this war.. are COWARDS.. they did not serve then they have not encouraged their children so serve their country either. If so many of you RIGTH WINGERS are so god damn gung ho about WAR while sitting at your computer then go join up.. the military certainly needs those who WANT to go.. to replace our kids who have already been there 2 or 3 times.

Again MOST of us have nothing to gain in YOUR WAR….. YOU GO.

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DUDE.. Uncle Sam needs YOU

YOU like the war

YOU want the war

YOU need to go do something about it.. not the people who think its a waste of american lives and fortune.



I've been in the military or working contracts directly supporting the troops since 1984 - PROVE I'm not doing something constructive.

While you're at it.. .you can PROVE that I like it OR want it.

Until then...I'll be waiting for the news reports on the the lines at the recruiters in Hollywood...

Ah ha. Now it comes out. War is good for YOUR bank acct. Put your ass on the front line yet?
I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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You only need to read foreign news sources.. or talk to a hell of a lot of the foreign posters to this site...

PROVE THAT THEY SUPPORT US in our wars of PREEMPTION.



No thanks, I don't agree with preemptive wars.
"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Ever thought about changing your citizenship?
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Not just no, but a big FUCK NO>:(>:( There's only one flag I would ever wear on my shoulder. Wanting to be in Iraq has nothing to do with with wanting to be Iraqi, it's about doing my job, serving my country, and backing up my fellow operators.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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