speedy 0 #1 January 26, 2007 So much for a consensus that green house gas emissions are warming the planet. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #2 January 26, 2007 Ouch, now that's an inconvenient truth! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 January 26, 2007 Climate change and Human Impact on the envirionment are two separate issues. Thie climate is constantly changing, and has done so for 1000,000's of years. we are fucking the place over in in a matter of hundreds of years! make a forcast calculater on those stats!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 January 26, 2007 QuoteThie climate is constantly changing, and has done so for 1000,000's of years. Exactly. Quotewe are fucking the place over in in a matter of hundreds of years! Supposition... some scientists agree and some don't - which is the point of the thread.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philh 0 #5 January 26, 2007 cience isnt done by surveys of sicentists but by publishing peer reviewed research. That hsould be the judge of this issue not any survey like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 January 26, 2007 Quotecience isnt done by surveys of sicentists but by publishing peer reviewed research. That hsould be the judge of this issue not any survey like this. Galileo's peers published that the Earth was the center of the Solar System - peer review is not necessarily equivalent to 'good science'. Peer review helps bad theories to be corrected in some cases, and can perpetuate bad *POPULAR* theories in other cases. Do I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philh 0 #7 January 26, 2007 peer reivew is not perfect but we dont have anything better at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #8 January 26, 2007 Quotepeer reivew is not perfect but we dont have anything better at the moment. Agreed, within the limitations I posted above.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #9 January 26, 2007 QuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #10 January 26, 2007 Edit: Did you actually read the paper they were agreeing with? It's different than your title implies.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 January 26, 2007 Well said. We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #12 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Cow farts, for the most part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 January 26, 2007 QuoteThat just tells me there's 17,200 fucking idiots out there with advanced scientific degrees. Heh heh heh heh Attaboy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #14 January 26, 2007 Andy... I read the title and responded, then read the paper and made an edit.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 January 26, 2007 QuoteAndy... I read the title and responded, then read the paper and made an edit. Sigh...you know, in comedy, timing is everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #16 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Cow farts, for the most part. Well obviously, I can see how 1.5 billion farting cows would out-pollute 6.5 billion humans flying about in jet liners and SUVs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #17 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Cow farts, for the most part. Well obviously, I can see how 1.5 billion farting cows would out-pollute 6.5 billion humans flying about in jet liners and SUVs. So you're selling off your gear (nylon, made with polluting hydrocarbons) and quitting jumping to do your part for the environment, right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #18 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Cow farts, for the most part. Well obviously, I can see how 1.5 billion farting cows would out-pollute 6.5 billion humans flying about in jet liners and SUVs. 6.5 billion humans do not fly about in jets and drive SUV's. Some do, but not all 6.5 billion. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #19 January 26, 2007 QuoteSo you're selling off your gear (nylon, made with polluting hydrocarbons) and quitting jumping to do your part for the environment, right? Oh sorry, I didn't realise it was my personal responsibility to single handedly save the planet. I'll get onto that straight after I've had my superpowers installed. At least I'm not in denial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #20 January 26, 2007 Quote6.5 billion humans do not fly about in jets and drive SUV's. Some do, but not all 6.5 billion. When was the last time you saw a cow driving an SUV? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #21 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Natural cycles. Solar variations. If you can figure out why we're not still in the Ice Age, you'll know answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteSo you're selling off your gear (nylon, made with polluting hydrocarbons) and quitting jumping to do your part for the environment, right? Oh sorry, I didn't realise it was my personal responsibility to single handedly save the planet. I'll get onto that straight after I've had my superpowers installed. At least I'm not in denial. YOU are the one that knee-jerk asserted that it's all the fault of the humans. I merely asked what YOU were going to do about it. I, at least, am willing to listen to both sides of the argument with an open mind. So, who's in denial about the possibility that the warming is natural?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #23 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo I believe human activity is responsible for *some* global warming? Absolutely. I believe the jury is still out on human activity being the *MAJOR* reason for global warming. What are the other causes of global warming? Cow farts, for the most part. Well obviously, I can see how 1.5 billion farting cows would out-pollute 6.5 billion humans flying about in jet liners and SUVs. 6.5 billion humans do not fly about in jets and drive SUV's. Some do, but not all 6.5 billion. I'm guessing less than 1% of the world's population flies in a given year..... not that this should get in the way of anyone's righteous indignation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #24 January 26, 2007 QuoteI'm guessing less than 1% of the world's population flies in a given year..... not that this should get in the way of anyone's righteous indignation. As long as its just a guess then I'm sure it won't. (You may well be right, I just hate it when people say "I guess" or "I bet" and then act as if they've just demonstrated something.)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #25 January 26, 2007 QuoteYOU are the one that knee-jerk asserted that it's all the fault of the humans. I merely asked what YOU were going to do about it. No I didn't, I asked what the other causes were. You jumped to the conclusion that I think it's all human caused and implied I wasn't doing enough. QuoteI, at least, am willing to listen to both sides of the argument with an open mind. So, who's in denial about the possibility that the warming is natural? Yes you stay on the fence, that way you can avoid any responsibility. I'm done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites