happythoughts 0 #26 January 25, 2007 Quote 3) Adding pseudoscience to the mix. The whole "we need to balance the views" thing. It's diversity. We need to respect other viewpoints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #27 January 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteExactly. If he doesn't like the school curriculum, he can always pull his kids out. and whilst he's at it he should wind his arrogant (we're better than everyone else if only from a sample size of one) head in - TW@. And John Scopes should have just quit if he had issues with the curriculum. Now there's some forward thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #28 January 25, 2007 The evolutionist teacher? I guess that depends upon ones measure of common sense. MY versions suggests that Evolution is a valid scientific theory, whislt the Creationist view stems from superstition and is not remotely fact based. BOTH are valid on the cirriculum IMHO. A teachers job is to present a subject, in a none biased, non judgemental way and solicit original thought from their pupils. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #29 January 25, 2007 QuoteThe evolutionist teacher? I guess that depends upon ones measure of common sense. MY versions suggests that Evolution is a valid scientific theory, whislt the Creationist view stems from superstition and is not remotely fact based. BOTH are valid on the cirriculum IMHO. A teachers job is to present a subject, in a none biased, non judgemental way and solicit original thought from their pupils. That film is part of the curriculum? No kidding? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #30 January 25, 2007 I imagine that the subject (climate change) is a valid part of the cirriculum and the film could be considered a valid instructional aide. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #31 January 25, 2007 QuoteI guess you missed the part about the teacher failing to follow "school board rules that require her to seek written permission to present "controversial" materials in class." Or do you think there's no controversy around man-made global warming? Actually I EXPECT academic institutions to PRESENT controvercial subjects... and have a scientific discussion on the MERITS..... If he wants to push his fundamentalist agenda on the other hand... they can do it at church on SUNDAY ...or in a religeon class at his local parochial school... There is a time and place for everything.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #32 January 25, 2007 I'll keep science out of others' church if others keep their hallucinations/superstitions out of our schools.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #33 January 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteI guess you missed the part about the teacher failing to follow "school board rules that require her to seek written permission to present "controversial" materials in class." Or do you think there's no controversy around man-made global warming? Actually I EXPECT academic institutions to PRESENT controvercial subjects... Like why it's in our best interests to support imperialist endeavors abroad, especially when it comes to securing resources to protect our long term energy needs??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 January 25, 2007 Quote Like why it's in our best interests to support imperialist endeavors abroad, especially when it comes to securing resources to protect our long term energy needs??? At least someone on the right wing is willing to admit it... Good for you... Now if we could just get the right wing to send off THEIR kids as tools of the Administrations imperialist aspirations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #35 January 25, 2007 I was being sarcastic. So.... you think parents should be able to send their children off to war, do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #36 January 25, 2007 Quote 1000 militant lettuce worshippers I hate those guys, always stealing my dressing, putting sugar in my lawnmower gas tank, always watering and fertilizing everything. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 January 25, 2007 QuoteSo.... you think parents should be able to send their children off to war, do you? HEll I would just settle for the children of MY generations chickenhawks... who I would bet are also chickenhawks ... to enlist and serve their country in ANY manner... Children learn from their parents... since they were never instilled with service to country....I expect them to be just like their parents.. and avoid going off to war just like mommy and daddy.... they are TOO GOOD for that.. let someone else do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #38 January 26, 2007 Quote>I guess you missed the part about the teacher failing to > follow "school board rules that require her to seek written permission > to present "controversial" materials in class." So as the article mentions - should they seek written permission to mention the holocaust? Should they give equal time to holocause deniers? There is no question whatsoever that the issue of holocaust denial is a controversial one. That's transparently dishonest. Clearly presenting the historical facts about the holocaust is not controversial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #39 January 26, 2007 QuoteHow do morons like this expect to be taken seriously? Easy. Just claim it's your religion and you get an instant and unquestionable level of respect that any regular whackjob idea couldn't ever hope to achieve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #40 January 26, 2007 His alternative theory is whack, his objection to a politicized documentary being shown in science class is not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #41 January 26, 2007 What makes the film political? The presenter? Sounds like a case of republicanism über alles to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #42 January 26, 2007 QuoteWhat makes the film political? The presenter? Sounds like a case of republicanism über alles to me. You might want to get your hearing checked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #43 January 26, 2007 QuoteIndisputable FACT that he is a madman? LMAO [Laugh] Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realise that believing the earth is getting warmer because hell is getting closer makes sense to you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #44 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteIndisputable FACT that he is a madman? LMAO [Laugh] Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realise that believing the earth is getting warmer because hell is getting closer makes sense to you. What are you saying? That anyone with any implausible beliefs is indisputably a madman (or madwoman)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 January 26, 2007 QuoteThat's transparently dishonest. Clearly presenting the historical facts about the holocaust is not controversial. To a parent that takes his children to cross lightings on Saturday night it certainly is....and holds just about as much weight as this fathers opinions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #46 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat's transparently dishonest. Clearly presenting the historical facts about the holocaust is not controversial. To a parent that takes his children to cross lightings on Saturday night it certainly is....and holds just about as much weight as this fathers opinions. Are you talking about real people? Or is this just an imaginary "what if"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,611 #47 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteIndisputable FACT that he is a madman? LMAO [Laugh] Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realise that believing the earth is getting warmer because hell is getting closer makes sense to you. What are you saying? That anyone with any implausible beliefs is indisputably a madman (or madwoman)? There are degrees of implausibility, to this degree - yes it is mad.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #48 January 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIndisputable FACT that he is a madman? LMAO [Laugh] Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realise that believing the earth is getting warmer because hell is getting closer makes sense to you. What are you saying? That anyone with any implausible beliefs is indisputably a madman (or madwoman)? There are degrees of implausibility, to this degree - yes it is mad. Any more so than what we regularly hear from hard leaning political ideologues? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #49 January 26, 2007 REal People..... just look on the C of CC website...or numerous skinhead sites...I would post links but I am sure such a well master de bater as yourself can find them.. Look for holocaust denial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #50 January 26, 2007 QuoteREal People..... just look on the C of CC website...or numerous skinhead sites...I would post links but I am sure such a well master de bater as yourself can find them.. Look for holocaust denial. Agreed, those people still. However, they are minority not majority."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites