Top ten reasons why a gun is better than a woman:

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10 You Can Trade an Old 44 for a New 22

9 You Can Keep One Handgun at Home and Have Another For The Road

8 If You Admire a Friend's Handgun, He'll Probably Let You Try It Out

7 Your Primary Handgun Doesn't Mind if You Keep Another One For a Backup

6 Your Handgun Will Stay With You Even if You Run Out of Ammo

5 A Handgun Doesn't Take Up a Lot of Closet Space

4 Handguns Function Normally Every Day of the Month

3 A Handgun Doesn't Ask, "Do These New Grips Make Me Look Fat?"

2 A Handgun Doesn't Mind if You Go To Sleep After You Use It

1 You Can Buy a Silencer For a Handgun

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Perusing the National Homosexual Gun Lovers Association forums again?

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[billvon 3,132]

Hmm, not many of these seem to apply! For example:

>1 You Can Buy a Silencer For a Handgun

That's just a matter of going to the right sort of store.

[AggieDave 6]

I guess you don't have to have a Class III for a ball-gag, huh?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[narcimund 0]

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Perusing the National Homosexual Gun Lovers Association forums again?

Actually, there really is a group known as Pink Pistols. A friend of mine shoots with them.

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[AggieDave 6]

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Actually, there really is a group known as Pink Pistols. A friend of mine shoots with them.

At the very least, hopefully they (to fit a stereotype) use better carry options then those ugly gun-fanny packs or those "camera gear" vest to conceal their pistols. Nothing screams goofy-white-guy with a gun then those two things.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Loonix 0]

..and with a gun you can get any girl you like?

[narcimund 0]

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At the very least, hopefully they (to fit a stereotype) use better carry options then those ugly gun-fanny packs or those "camera gear" vest to conceal their pistols. Nothing screams goofy-white-guy with a gun then those two things.

Probably worth a different thread ("How do you carry?") but what's the problem with looking like a "goofy-white-guy with a gun"?

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[AggieDave 6]

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Probably worth a different thread ("How do you carry?") but what's the problem with looking like a "goofy-white-guy with a gun"?

I'd rather people take me for the exact opposite. Infact during the winter my typical clothing choice is boots, blue jeans, hooded sweatshirt with my very big and heavy motorcycle jacket. Then my old and worn out Skymonkey hat.

So if anything, most people take me for some dirtbag, not a big white dude with a gun (even though there is one stuffed somewhere on my body).

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[narcimund 0]

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So if anything, most people take me for some dirtbag, not a big white dude with a gun (even though there is one stuffed somewhere on my body).

So is this just a fashion statement or a practical problem with carrying in a fanny pack?

If it's just a choice to look like a dirtbag instead of a goofy white guy, that's cool. I know some great dirtbags.

But if I tried that I'd look like a goofy white dirtbag with a touch of fag. I'd rather not mix the motifs up. The hybrid is not pretty.

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[AggieDave 6]

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So is this just a fashion statement or a practical problem with carrying in a fanny pack?

Both.

1. The 1980s are over.
2. A 12"x10" fanny pack that obviously weighs about 7lbs screams TAKE MY GUN. I feel like it can cause problems.

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But if I tried that I'd look like a goofy white dirtbag with a touch of fag. I'd rather not mix the motifs up. The hybrid is not pretty.

That is the funniest thing I've read all day long. Thank you, the laughing hurt, but I needed the smile.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Andy9o8 3]

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a goofy white dirtbag with a touch of fag.

Sounds like a wine-tasting course.

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>1 You Can Buy a Silencer For a Handgun

That's just a matter of going to the right sort of store.

Hmm, a Shotgun silencer...

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Hmm, a Shotgun silencer...

Now, that's funny

[Kennedy 0]

Don't ever settle what club you're going to later that night by "best shooter calls it," when there's a pink pistol in the house.


ps - kind blows that whole "gun nuts are all beerswilling neanderthal rednecks" thing out of the water, doesn't it?

pps - not that there's anything inherently wrong with beerswilling neanderthal rednecks...

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[Kennedy 0]

Those shoot me first garments/accessories are the worst. It's a ton of fun to watch a bunch of cops go out for a group dinner with their spouses. The resulting fashion disaster is thoroughly entertaining. Some people think forma over designer blue jeans and nice shoes means a button up shirt with the tails out, other think a ugly tan vest qualifies, while my personal favorite is the fanny pack over/under the three piece suit. Oh, to have had a camera phone...

With about a dozen ways to responsibly carry, you wouldn't think it'd be that hard to find something that works

(if not, I'm sure at least one badge at the party has a bloody safe in his SUV/pickup/crown vic)

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[AggieDave 6]

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Those shoot me first garments/accessories are the worst. It's a ton of fun to watch a bunch of cops go out for a group dinner with their spouses. The resulting fashion disaster is thoroughly entertaining. Some people think forma over designer blue jeans and nice shoes means a button up shirt with the tails out, other think a ugly tan vest qualifies, while my personal favorite is the fanny pack over/under the three piece suit. Oh, to have had a camera phone...

Yeah, that's always hilarious to see.

That's why dirtbag dress is not only comfy but practical. I've even been followed by officers while riding my motorcycle. It makes me laugh. Although biker dirtbag seems more practical when running from the police then hip-hop gangster dirtbag dress is. That's when folks have to hold their pants up while running and they run out of their sneakers.

Even if you don't do that, a simple in the waistband holster with a practical weapon and an appropiate shirt choice and its not visible. Then you get to look like an average person going to the store or someone in business casual dress on lunch.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[craddock 0]

off topic but does anyone have any experiance with Lasermax lasers? I have the Crimson Trace grips on my Sig 226 and I like them very much. I wondered if anyone had used the guide rod type on a 1911. My 1911 has a rail so I could use a light/laser combo. I don't really need them either way as I have night sights, but the novelty is fun.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[AggieDave 6]

You have to have a light, if its weapon mounted or hand held, night sights regardless. The light isn't for sight alignment, its for target identification. That is of the upmost importance.

As for lasers, I can't stand any version of them, here's why. No matter what sort of lip service people give to not depending on the laser sight, without fail people depend on the laser sight. So when it breaks or burns out or runs out of battery (which it will do and will typically do when you actually need it for real), people are unable to do any stress shooting with proper sight alignment. That's because they quit training for it.

On the flip side, Streamlight makes a decent rail mounted light that is about $100. On the upside it uses the 3v battery and Surefire makes a really good battery that also works in their (much better) tactical flashlights. Surefire's weapon light offerings are much too expensive.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[craddock 0]

I have the streamlight M3. Probably the one your refering too. I think I paid over $100 but I did not buy it online.

As far as lasers I could not disagree more. Not for an experienced shooter anyway. I have said it many times over to many people that a novice should not buy a laser. I disagree with seasoned shooters though. If you are dumb enough to train with the laser instead of the sights, that is your(not calling you out) problem, not the lasers. I do almost all my shooting with the sights. I do shoot a couple groups with the laser at a range session and they are always very tight. I don't see the need for a good shooter to spend much time shooting with the laser. But again I disagree because I can't see them hurting my shooting performance one bit.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[narcimund 0]

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As for lasers, I can't stand any version of them, here's why...

That sounds like a perfect argument against audible altimeters too.

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[craddock 0]

I almost forgot another advantage for a laser. If ever needed, the red dot on ones chest very possibly could be the difference between someone backing off of continuing the threat. It has to be imtimidating. As is racking the slide on a pump shotgun.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[AggieDave 6]

Well, its fine to disagree with my opinion. I disagree with yours and life goes on with no problems.

Shooters have more varied opinions about their sport and training then skydivers do, and the opinions are usually more intense. Lucky for everyone involved there's not deadly weapons around during the arguements...oh.

Ok, seriously, too bad we're not closer, it would fun to go put a few hundred rds downrange, for beer and bragging rights of course.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[AggieDave 6]

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That sounds like a perfect argument against audible altimeters too.

Yes and no, I believe its a little different, but now that the codine cough syrup has started to kicked in, I think I'll leave my explaination until later.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

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Actually, there really is a group known as Pink Pistols. A friend of mine shoots with them.

At the very least, hopefully they (to fit a stereotype) use better carry options then those ugly gun-fanny packs or those "camera gear" vest to conceal their pistols. Nothing screams goofy-white-guy with a gun then those two things.

Ah, yes... the "shoot-me-first" vest...

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