rushmc 23 #76 January 24, 2007 What we need to ask our selves is this. Are our actions making us safer? Quote Yes, and I believe more so in the long term"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #77 January 24, 2007 So bringing up a violent verse from the Koran as one of the reasons Muslims are bad is pertty hpyocritical.Quote No comparison here at all. Apples and oranges. They saying doing the killing. They are stating a very specific goal puplicaly. Are you listneing? (not meant as a shot)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #78 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe are and always will be the "enemy" no matter what our policy in the middle east is. I don't know if I agee with the always but for at least our life time. I wish more could see this is not about the US. Clearly more people need to look at all the muslim terrorist attacks against the predominately roman catholic countries in south america. And against Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Japan. Recognizing all those attacks will make it clear that they're not pissed specifically at the US, right? Blues, Dave Hmm, did you not see the news last night about the atacks in Africa? I suppose not. Hell, this was even on ABC and they blame Al queada, The people they were attacking there were Christian, not Americans Those interviews stated they had to bow to Ala or be killed"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #79 January 24, 2007 QuoteWhat we need to ask our selves is this. Are our actions making us safer? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, and I believe more so in the long term And what will you say when you are proven wrong???? OOP Sorry.. We had a perfectly good place to chase and render justice to Al Queda.....It was called Afghanistan....they had these friends called the Taliban..... now they are making a resurggence with LOTS of new recruits... and they hang out over the border in Pakistan....At that time.. we had the support of the whole world. We lost that with Iraq....oooops... sorry. Most jobs I have ever done require me to start a job.. work on it.. and complete the job.....The Shrub has never been very good at that...in his entire life. Looks to many of us he is running true to form once again. Ooops.. sorry.... Instead his buddies.. the neocons see an "in" for their greed for oil and the money that comes from it...the corporate grtab for the Iraqui oil is great.. if those dayum insurgents would just let us develop the oil as we went there to do. Opps Sorry Bottom line.. kill Al Queda..... and win the war on terror.....oooops.... sooooooory, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #80 January 24, 2007 >Yes, and I believe more so in the long term Our own state department disagrees. So do most people. I mean, it's great to feel safer, but it's not being seen in practice. Didn't you just post something about another Al Qaeda attack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #81 January 24, 2007 Quote>Yes, and I believe more so in the long term Our own state department disagrees. So do most people. I mean, it's great to feel safer, but it's not being seen in practice. Didn't you just post something about another Al Qaeda attack? Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! As for you State Dept comment well, if you want to pick out the lines, screw them out of context and spin them a little, one could come to such a conclusion the other attack you reference is the attack on non US christian group in Africa that has to say they acepted Islam or die after the al queada people burned them out of their church"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #82 January 24, 2007 >what about the health care initiative? I fear that will lead to less-affordable insurance. Some potential side effects of this policy: -It gives tax breaks to low income people to apply towards health care. Per our current tax scale, low income earners pay almost nothing in taxes already; reducing their taxes by a few hundred dollars won't make much of a difference. (If you're only paying $1000 in taxes, a $15,000 deduction nets you $1000.) In addition, when you get to the bottom of the scale, where is that money going to go realistically - towards a health care plan, or food? -It encourages companies to drop insurance coverage for their employees. Which leads to only sick/at-risk people getting coverage. Result - health plan premiums go up enormously, and a great many people are not covered due to pre-existing conditions. It costs a lot more to insure a sick/at risk population than a healthy population. That being said, he made some good points about oil dependency. Expanding the petroleum reserves is a very good idea. If the "35 billion gallons of alternate fuels within 20 years" includes fuels such as pure-electric and methane along with the standard options (biodiesel and ethanol) that's a good goal; the trick will be in the implementation. And cutting gasoline usage by 20% is definitely a good goal. He exaggerated a bit when he said that fuel standards for light trucks have been "modernized" - there is still an SUV/light truck exemption to the CAFE rules, although efficiency for those exempt classes has increased. If we can really close the loopholes and increase the CAFE that will have a very positive effect overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #83 January 24, 2007 >Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #84 January 24, 2007 Quote>Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) ??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,582 #85 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuote>Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) ?? White powder, postal system, ring any bells?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #86 January 24, 2007 Quote Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! Two things, first of all, Zawahiri (sp) called off an attack in the NY subway in 2002, for what reason we don't know. Secondly, how many years was it between attacks on US soil after the first WTC bombing? 8 years? And that was without massive government over-reaction, ally alienation and enemy cultivation and US military crippling. Also, whassup with that anthrax investigation? Any new leads there? edited to add: Ok, yea we did continue to cultivate more enemies but not nearly at the rate that we did post 2001. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #87 January 24, 2007 Google is your friend, and can help you avoid embarrassing errors. (Hint: it's spelled "anthrax") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #88 January 24, 2007 Don't care about the anthrax. From what I have learmed there is a better chance that was from within and not al queada. If you wnat to be condesending that is your choice but it doesn't help your case........although it seems to fire up your grupies........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #89 January 24, 2007 >Don't care about the anthrax. Hmm. Americans concerned about their safety do; the families of those killed likely care a great deal. Most right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #90 January 24, 2007 Quote>Don't care about the anthrax. Hmm. Americans concerned about their safety do; the families of those killed likely care a great deal. Most right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. I have not paid attention to it one way or another. I am not ignoring it either. Can you show me a link where al queada is implicated?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #91 January 24, 2007 Oh, and like many times, you have dragged this off topic. why?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #92 January 24, 2007 >you have dragged this off topic. why? I was answering your post where you claimed we were safer. We're not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #93 January 24, 2007 QuoteMost right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. It also doesn't fit their "brown people" thing. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #94 January 24, 2007 Quote>you have dragged this off topic. why? I was answering your post where you claimed we were safer. We're not. You brought up the anthrax case which you say (or imply) this was linked to al queada? (if it is I have missed that story) Oh, and I can do it too. Yes, we are safer!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #95 January 24, 2007 QuoteYou brought up the anthrax case which you say (or imply) this was linked to al queada? (if it is I have missed that story) Oh, and I can do it too. Yes, we are safer! It certainly does show them how they can do a successful bio-weapons attack.. and shut down our government indeffinitely.... how long did it take to clean up our postal system.. the Senate office bldg.. etc??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #96 January 24, 2007 QuoteYes, we are safer! How do you intend to prove this? Saying the US hasn't been attacked is hardly proof of being safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #97 January 24, 2007 QuoteSaying the US hasn't been attacked is hardly proof of being safer. It's PLENTY of proof so long as saying it coincides with a partisan position. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #98 January 24, 2007 >Yes, we are safer! Why have you dragged this off topic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,582 #99 January 24, 2007 Quotealthough it seems to fire up your groupies 'Scuse me? If I'm going to be a groupie I demand a Billvon T-shirt.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #100 January 24, 2007 >I demand a Billvon T-shirt. Demand? No shirt for you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 4 of 8 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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rushmc 23 #77 January 24, 2007 So bringing up a violent verse from the Koran as one of the reasons Muslims are bad is pertty hpyocritical.Quote No comparison here at all. Apples and oranges. They saying doing the killing. They are stating a very specific goal puplicaly. Are you listneing? (not meant as a shot)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #78 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe are and always will be the "enemy" no matter what our policy in the middle east is. I don't know if I agee with the always but for at least our life time. I wish more could see this is not about the US. Clearly more people need to look at all the muslim terrorist attacks against the predominately roman catholic countries in south america. And against Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Japan. Recognizing all those attacks will make it clear that they're not pissed specifically at the US, right? Blues, Dave Hmm, did you not see the news last night about the atacks in Africa? I suppose not. Hell, this was even on ABC and they blame Al queada, The people they were attacking there were Christian, not Americans Those interviews stated they had to bow to Ala or be killed"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #79 January 24, 2007 QuoteWhat we need to ask our selves is this. Are our actions making us safer? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, and I believe more so in the long term And what will you say when you are proven wrong???? OOP Sorry.. We had a perfectly good place to chase and render justice to Al Queda.....It was called Afghanistan....they had these friends called the Taliban..... now they are making a resurggence with LOTS of new recruits... and they hang out over the border in Pakistan....At that time.. we had the support of the whole world. We lost that with Iraq....oooops... sorry. Most jobs I have ever done require me to start a job.. work on it.. and complete the job.....The Shrub has never been very good at that...in his entire life. Looks to many of us he is running true to form once again. Ooops.. sorry.... Instead his buddies.. the neocons see an "in" for their greed for oil and the money that comes from it...the corporate grtab for the Iraqui oil is great.. if those dayum insurgents would just let us develop the oil as we went there to do. Opps Sorry Bottom line.. kill Al Queda..... and win the war on terror.....oooops.... sooooooory, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #80 January 24, 2007 >Yes, and I believe more so in the long term Our own state department disagrees. So do most people. I mean, it's great to feel safer, but it's not being seen in practice. Didn't you just post something about another Al Qaeda attack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #81 January 24, 2007 Quote>Yes, and I believe more so in the long term Our own state department disagrees. So do most people. I mean, it's great to feel safer, but it's not being seen in practice. Didn't you just post something about another Al Qaeda attack? Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! As for you State Dept comment well, if you want to pick out the lines, screw them out of context and spin them a little, one could come to such a conclusion the other attack you reference is the attack on non US christian group in Africa that has to say they acepted Islam or die after the al queada people burned them out of their church"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #82 January 24, 2007 >what about the health care initiative? I fear that will lead to less-affordable insurance. Some potential side effects of this policy: -It gives tax breaks to low income people to apply towards health care. Per our current tax scale, low income earners pay almost nothing in taxes already; reducing their taxes by a few hundred dollars won't make much of a difference. (If you're only paying $1000 in taxes, a $15,000 deduction nets you $1000.) In addition, when you get to the bottom of the scale, where is that money going to go realistically - towards a health care plan, or food? -It encourages companies to drop insurance coverage for their employees. Which leads to only sick/at-risk people getting coverage. Result - health plan premiums go up enormously, and a great many people are not covered due to pre-existing conditions. It costs a lot more to insure a sick/at risk population than a healthy population. That being said, he made some good points about oil dependency. Expanding the petroleum reserves is a very good idea. If the "35 billion gallons of alternate fuels within 20 years" includes fuels such as pure-electric and methane along with the standard options (biodiesel and ethanol) that's a good goal; the trick will be in the implementation. And cutting gasoline usage by 20% is definitely a good goal. He exaggerated a bit when he said that fuel standards for light trucks have been "modernized" - there is still an SUV/light truck exemption to the CAFE rules, although efficiency for those exempt classes has increased. If we can really close the loopholes and increase the CAFE that will have a very positive effect overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #83 January 24, 2007 >Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #84 January 24, 2007 Quote>Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) ??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,582 #85 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuote>Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) ?? White powder, postal system, ring any bells?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #86 January 24, 2007 Quote Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! Two things, first of all, Zawahiri (sp) called off an attack in the NY subway in 2002, for what reason we don't know. Secondly, how many years was it between attacks on US soil after the first WTC bombing? 8 years? And that was without massive government over-reaction, ally alienation and enemy cultivation and US military crippling. Also, whassup with that anthrax investigation? Any new leads there? edited to add: Ok, yea we did continue to cultivate more enemies but not nearly at the rate that we did post 2001. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #87 January 24, 2007 Google is your friend, and can help you avoid embarrassing errors. (Hint: it's spelled "anthrax") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #88 January 24, 2007 Don't care about the anthrax. From what I have learmed there is a better chance that was from within and not al queada. If you wnat to be condesending that is your choice but it doesn't help your case........although it seems to fire up your grupies........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #89 January 24, 2007 >Don't care about the anthrax. Hmm. Americans concerned about their safety do; the families of those killed likely care a great deal. Most right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #90 January 24, 2007 Quote>Don't care about the anthrax. Hmm. Americans concerned about their safety do; the families of those killed likely care a great deal. Most right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. I have not paid attention to it one way or another. I am not ignoring it either. Can you show me a link where al queada is implicated?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #91 January 24, 2007 Oh, and like many times, you have dragged this off topic. why?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #92 January 24, 2007 >you have dragged this off topic. why? I was answering your post where you claimed we were safer. We're not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #93 January 24, 2007 QuoteMost right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. It also doesn't fit their "brown people" thing. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #94 January 24, 2007 Quote>you have dragged this off topic. why? I was answering your post where you claimed we were safer. We're not. You brought up the anthrax case which you say (or imply) this was linked to al queada? (if it is I have missed that story) Oh, and I can do it too. Yes, we are safer!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #95 January 24, 2007 QuoteYou brought up the anthrax case which you say (or imply) this was linked to al queada? (if it is I have missed that story) Oh, and I can do it too. Yes, we are safer! It certainly does show them how they can do a successful bio-weapons attack.. and shut down our government indeffinitely.... how long did it take to clean up our postal system.. the Senate office bldg.. etc??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #96 January 24, 2007 QuoteYes, we are safer! How do you intend to prove this? Saying the US hasn't been attacked is hardly proof of being safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #97 January 24, 2007 QuoteSaying the US hasn't been attacked is hardly proof of being safer. It's PLENTY of proof so long as saying it coincides with a partisan position. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #98 January 24, 2007 >Yes, we are safer! Why have you dragged this off topic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,582 #99 January 24, 2007 Quotealthough it seems to fire up your groupies 'Scuse me? If I'm going to be a groupie I demand a Billvon T-shirt.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,092 #100 January 24, 2007 >I demand a Billvon T-shirt. Demand? No shirt for you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 4 of 8 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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rushmc 23 #78 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe are and always will be the "enemy" no matter what our policy in the middle east is. I don't know if I agee with the always but for at least our life time. I wish more could see this is not about the US. Clearly more people need to look at all the muslim terrorist attacks against the predominately roman catholic countries in south america. And against Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Japan. Recognizing all those attacks will make it clear that they're not pissed specifically at the US, right? Blues, Dave Hmm, did you not see the news last night about the atacks in Africa? I suppose not. Hell, this was even on ABC and they blame Al queada, The people they were attacking there were Christian, not Americans Those interviews stated they had to bow to Ala or be killed"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #79 January 24, 2007 QuoteWhat we need to ask our selves is this. Are our actions making us safer? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, and I believe more so in the long term And what will you say when you are proven wrong???? OOP Sorry.. We had a perfectly good place to chase and render justice to Al Queda.....It was called Afghanistan....they had these friends called the Taliban..... now they are making a resurggence with LOTS of new recruits... and they hang out over the border in Pakistan....At that time.. we had the support of the whole world. We lost that with Iraq....oooops... sorry. Most jobs I have ever done require me to start a job.. work on it.. and complete the job.....The Shrub has never been very good at that...in his entire life. Looks to many of us he is running true to form once again. Ooops.. sorry.... Instead his buddies.. the neocons see an "in" for their greed for oil and the money that comes from it...the corporate grtab for the Iraqui oil is great.. if those dayum insurgents would just let us develop the oil as we went there to do. Opps Sorry Bottom line.. kill Al Queda..... and win the war on terror.....oooops.... sooooooory, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #80 January 24, 2007 >Yes, and I believe more so in the long term Our own state department disagrees. So do most people. I mean, it's great to feel safer, but it's not being seen in practice. Didn't you just post something about another Al Qaeda attack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #81 January 24, 2007 Quote>Yes, and I believe more so in the long term Our own state department disagrees. So do most people. I mean, it's great to feel safer, but it's not being seen in practice. Didn't you just post something about another Al Qaeda attack? Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! As for you State Dept comment well, if you want to pick out the lines, screw them out of context and spin them a little, one could come to such a conclusion the other attack you reference is the attack on non US christian group in Africa that has to say they acepted Islam or die after the al queada people burned them out of their church"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #82 January 24, 2007 >what about the health care initiative? I fear that will lead to less-affordable insurance. Some potential side effects of this policy: -It gives tax breaks to low income people to apply towards health care. Per our current tax scale, low income earners pay almost nothing in taxes already; reducing their taxes by a few hundred dollars won't make much of a difference. (If you're only paying $1000 in taxes, a $15,000 deduction nets you $1000.) In addition, when you get to the bottom of the scale, where is that money going to go realistically - towards a health care plan, or food? -It encourages companies to drop insurance coverage for their employees. Which leads to only sick/at-risk people getting coverage. Result - health plan premiums go up enormously, and a great many people are not covered due to pre-existing conditions. It costs a lot more to insure a sick/at risk population than a healthy population. That being said, he made some good points about oil dependency. Expanding the petroleum reserves is a very good idea. If the "35 billion gallons of alternate fuels within 20 years" includes fuels such as pure-electric and methane along with the standard options (biodiesel and ethanol) that's a good goal; the trick will be in the implementation. And cutting gasoline usage by 20% is definitely a good goal. He exaggerated a bit when he said that fuel standards for light trucks have been "modernized" - there is still an SUV/light truck exemption to the CAFE rules, although efficiency for those exempt classes has increased. If we can really close the loopholes and increase the CAFE that will have a very positive effect overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #83 January 24, 2007 >Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #84 January 24, 2007 Quote>Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) ??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,582 #85 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuote>Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! You mean other than the first-ever biological attack against the US government. (I know, sorry - you're on a roll.) ?? White powder, postal system, ring any bells?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #86 January 24, 2007 Quote Has there been another attack on US soil? "No" is the answer! Two things, first of all, Zawahiri (sp) called off an attack in the NY subway in 2002, for what reason we don't know. Secondly, how many years was it between attacks on US soil after the first WTC bombing? 8 years? And that was without massive government over-reaction, ally alienation and enemy cultivation and US military crippling. Also, whassup with that anthrax investigation? Any new leads there? edited to add: Ok, yea we did continue to cultivate more enemies but not nearly at the rate that we did post 2001. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #87 January 24, 2007 Google is your friend, and can help you avoid embarrassing errors. (Hint: it's spelled "anthrax") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #88 January 24, 2007 Don't care about the anthrax. From what I have learmed there is a better chance that was from within and not al queada. If you wnat to be condesending that is your choice but it doesn't help your case........although it seems to fire up your grupies........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #89 January 24, 2007 >Don't care about the anthrax. Hmm. Americans concerned about their safety do; the families of those killed likely care a great deal. Most right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #90 January 24, 2007 Quote>Don't care about the anthrax. Hmm. Americans concerned about their safety do; the families of those killed likely care a great deal. Most right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. I have not paid attention to it one way or another. I am not ignoring it either. Can you show me a link where al queada is implicated?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #91 January 24, 2007 Oh, and like many times, you have dragged this off topic. why?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #92 January 24, 2007 >you have dragged this off topic. why? I was answering your post where you claimed we were safer. We're not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #93 January 24, 2007 QuoteMost right wingers ignore that particular attack because it doesn't fit their "we're safer now" thing. It also doesn't fit their "brown people" thing. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #94 January 24, 2007 Quote>you have dragged this off topic. why? I was answering your post where you claimed we were safer. We're not. You brought up the anthrax case which you say (or imply) this was linked to al queada? (if it is I have missed that story) Oh, and I can do it too. Yes, we are safer!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #95 January 24, 2007 QuoteYou brought up the anthrax case which you say (or imply) this was linked to al queada? (if it is I have missed that story) Oh, and I can do it too. Yes, we are safer! It certainly does show them how they can do a successful bio-weapons attack.. and shut down our government indeffinitely.... how long did it take to clean up our postal system.. the Senate office bldg.. etc??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #96 January 24, 2007 QuoteYes, we are safer! How do you intend to prove this? Saying the US hasn't been attacked is hardly proof of being safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #97 January 24, 2007 QuoteSaying the US hasn't been attacked is hardly proof of being safer. It's PLENTY of proof so long as saying it coincides with a partisan position. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #98 January 24, 2007 >Yes, we are safer! Why have you dragged this off topic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,582 #99 January 24, 2007 Quotealthough it seems to fire up your groupies 'Scuse me? If I'm going to be a groupie I demand a Billvon T-shirt.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,092 #100 January 24, 2007 >I demand a Billvon T-shirt. Demand? No shirt for you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
