narcimund 0 #51 January 24, 2007 Quote Have you bothered to compare the speaches made by Adolph Hitler and George Bush? No I haven't. They are no obvious or relevant similarities. Are you simply baiting me for using a WWII analogy? If so, bite me. I also pointed out that: Quote In other times and places people have evacuated unnecessarily which you ignored -- presumably because you don't want to acknowledge I presented both sides dispassionately. In other words you're just itching for a fight. I'm not. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #52 January 24, 2007 Quote Quote Have you bothered to compare the speeches made by Adolph Hitler and George Bush? No I haven't. They are no obvious or relevant similarities. Are you simply baiting me for using a WWII analogy? If so, bite me. I'm not looking for a fight (and I realize that you attempted to be impartial). I was just wondering what made you state ... Quote Some left Germany early and their friends laughed. Then later the friends died."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #53 January 24, 2007 Quote I'm not looking for a fight (and I realize that you attempted to be impartial). I was just wondering what made you state ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some left Germany early and their friends laughed. Then later the friends died. The ones who left when they saw what was happening.. lived and their progeny are amoung us today. Those that did not leave who thought that the friends who were emigrating were crazy, were the ones who ended up in the labor camps. Most people who entered the labor camps quit their laughing long before they died of starvation...or worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #54 January 24, 2007 Quote I was just wondering what made you state ... You want a more explanation? Uh... ok... I gave an example of a historical event where the early evacuees were right and wise to leave the country. Then -- lacking an actual example of the opposite -- I pointed out that there certainly must be examples of times when evacuees were overly cautious or misguided. I hope that helps. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #55 January 24, 2007 Quote do it, make him stand for 4 years take away all his chairs and poke him with a stick if he tries to sit on the floor ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #56 January 24, 2007 Simply put, the comparison of present day USA to 1930s Germany is a shitty analogy. Nothing more than hysterical hyperbole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #57 January 24, 2007 I guess when you have so much to gain by a right wing dictatorship...... you see things far differently from those of us who dont think its such a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #58 January 24, 2007 Quote Simply put, the comparison of present day USA to 1930s Germany is a shitty analogy. Nothing more than hysterical hyperbole. There you go. Now we know which of the two positions I outlined you stand on. Hope it turns out ok for ya. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #59 January 24, 2007 Quote Quote Simply put, the comparison of present day USA to 1930s Germany is a shitty analogy. Nothing more than hysterical hyperbole. There you go. Now we know which of the two positions I outlined you stand on. Hope it turns out ok for ya. How about a third option - Stay and quit fretting about something that is about as likely as Bush balancing the budget. If someone could actually show how present day USA is comparable to 1930s Germany, I might give it consideration. As it is, the comparison is nothing more than a silly emotional hand grenade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #60 January 24, 2007 Quote You want a more explanation? Uh... ok... I gave an example of a historical event where the early evacuees were right and wise to leave the country. I was merely trying to address that the early evacuees from Germany had plenty of warning (and reason) if they bothered to listen to the speeches given by Adolph Hitler. Quote Then -- lacking an actual example of the opposite -- I pointed out that there certainly must be examples of times when evacuees were overly cautious or misguided. I hope that helps. Sure does. You were merely trying to state that people move based on their beliefs and sometimes the choice to move proves beneficial to their well being."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #61 January 24, 2007 Quote I guess when you have so much to gain by a right wing dictatorship...... you see things far differently from those of us who dont think its such a good idea. How can it be a dictatorship given the roles of the house and the senate (especially since they are currently a democrat majority)?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #62 January 24, 2007 Quote Quote I guess when you have so much to gain by a right wing dictatorship...... you see things far differently from those of us who dont think its such a good idea. How can it be a dictatorship given the roles of the house and the senate (especially since they are currently a democrat majority)? I don't think her point was that the US is currently a complete and established dictatorship. Rather, she's predicting that it's coming. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #63 January 24, 2007 It will only take one major attack with ANY form of WMD or bio weapons...the right will have its wet dream just handed to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #64 January 24, 2007 Quote It will only take one major attack with ANY form of WMD or bio weapons...the fundamentalist extremist right will have its wet dream just handed to them. Fixed it for you. (You sound like the people you despise, judging the majority based on the minority.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #65 January 24, 2007 Quote Fixed it for you. (You sound like the people you despise, judging the majority based on the minority.) They are the fucking wingnuts who have gotten us to this point in time. They are the people who put this trainwreck in the Whitehouse. If they cant handle that now.. TOUGH FUCKING SHIT.... live with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #66 January 24, 2007 Quote It will only take one major attack with ANY form of WMD or bio weapons...the right will have its wet dream just handed to them. Do you have anything more than a distorted take on the remarks of one person from three years ago to support your concern? If so, I'd love to heard about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #67 January 24, 2007 Have fun reading... http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm And if its not too difficult for you.... then perhaps some of the links in the article as well....I know its hard for you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #68 January 24, 2007 Quote Quote Fixed it for you. (You sound like the people you despise, judging the majority based on the minority.) They are the fucking wingnuts who have gotten us to this point in time. They are the people who put this trainwreck in the Whitehouse. If they cant handle that now.. TOUGH FUCKING SHIT.... live with it. Actually, both the democrates and republicans voted for the war in Iraq (along with many other things). If you don't realize that ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #69 January 24, 2007 Quote Have fun reading... http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm Lovely website. I checked out the user guidelines for its forum. Here's a little gem. Quote this is a political discussion message board for like minded people. Namely anti-corruption progressives and liberals. This is not a political debate forum. So if you introduce unpopular viewpoints that result in more argument than discussion, you will be asked to leave. And I'm on the fax tree for the GOP talking points, and if I see anyone parroting them, you're gone immediately. Propagandists and apologists aren't welcome here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #70 January 24, 2007 Quote Quote Have fun reading... http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm Lovely website. I checked out the user guidelines for its forum. Here's a little gem. Quote this is a political discussion message board for like minded people. Namely anti-corruption progressives and liberals. This is not a political debate forum. So if you introduce unpopular viewpoints that result in more argument than discussion, you will be asked to leave. And I'm on the fax tree for the GOP talking points, and if I see anyone parroting them, you're gone immediately. Propagandists and apologists aren't welcome here. Must be a DU sub-forum....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #71 January 24, 2007 Again the truth hurts... and you go right for the rules.. instead of the message itself... and ANY form of dissent is immediatly discounted by the right so want to bet they havedone in the past...... I guess the attack dogs disrupted his site.. just like the staunch republican right wing goons did in Miami breaking into election HQ... during the recounts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #72 January 24, 2007 Quote Again the truth hurts... and you go right for the rules.. instead of the message itself... and ANY form of dissent is immediatly discounted by the right so want to bet they havedone in the past...... I guess the attack dogs disrupted his site.. just like the staunch republican right wing goons did in Miami breaking into election HQ... during the recounts. It's clearly an ultra-Lefty website, with a whole bunch of information (which mostly looks like crappy analogies). I'm sure "somewhere" on that site there is some information on how we are clearly headed towards a right-wing controlled, marshall law situation. I just didn't feel up to looking through that massive pile of bullsit, to possibly find compelling bit of info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #73 January 24, 2007 Quote It's clearly an ultra-Lefty website, with a whole bunch of information (which mostly looks like crappy analogies). I'm sure "somewhere" on that site there is some information on how we are clearly headed towards a right-wing controlled, marshall law situation. I just didn't feel up to looking through that massive pile of bullsit, to possibly find compelling bit of info. Quack Quack Quack.......waddle waddle waddle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #74 January 24, 2007 Quote Quack Quack Quack.......waddle waddle waddle. I read that on the website, stop parroting. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #75 January 24, 2007 But some like to DUCK the obvious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
