Butters 0 #1 January 23, 2007 Which one are you? Pessimist: 1 : an inclination to emphasize adverse aspects, conditions, and possibilities or to expect the worst possible outcome 2 a : the doctrine that reality is essentially evil b : the doctrine that evil overbalances happiness in life Optimist: 1 : a doctrine that this world is the best possible world 2 : an inclination to put the most favorable construction upon actions and events or to anticipate the best possible outcome "For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." Sir Winston Churchill"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 January 23, 2007 Once upon a time I was an idealist and an optimist..... life in the United States of America under mostly Republican administrations has shown me the error of my ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 January 23, 2007 QuoteOnce upon a time I was an idealist and an optimist..... life in the United States of America under mostly Republican administrations has shown me the error of my ways. maybe oral sex with an intern will help - just don't admit it if you get caught ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #4 January 23, 2007 Quote"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." Sir Winston Churchill With a quote like that its kinda weird that he was.... well suffering with depression.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #5 January 23, 2007 QuoteOnce upon a time I was an idealist and an optimist..... life in the United States of America under mostly Republican administrations has shown me the error of my ways. Bummer . Reality has faded my idealism but I will always try to remain optimistic (agree with the earlier quote). PS: Why limit it to the Republicans? The Democrats haven't been perfect either."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #6 January 23, 2007 QuoteQuote"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." Sir Winston Churchill With a quote like that its kinda weird that he was.... well suffering with depression. Why does that seem weird?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #7 January 23, 2007 Always expect the absolute worst. If you get anything other, you're not doing bad at all."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #8 January 23, 2007 It's ironic that pessimists usually call themselves "realists" and think the optimists are la-de-da, headintheclouds types who don't have a grip on the real world, when in fact the optimists are usually the ones who are actually correct. for example: The pessimists of the past predicted that we would have polluted/nuked/starved/diseased ourselves to death 20 times over long before the 21st century. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 January 23, 2007 I am both an optimist and a pessimist. I think I may be a "pragmatist" or a "realist" or a "skeptic." "Pessimist: 1 : an inclination to emphasize adverse aspects, conditions, and possibilities or to expect the worst possible outcome 2 a : the doctrine that reality is essentially evil b : the doctrine that evil overbalances happiness in life." Okay. I always expect the worst possible outcome and prepare for it. I emphasis adverse possibilities and hence am risk-averse in most things that I do. I carefully control and think things out to mitigate risks as much as possible, realizing that they are out there. Evil is there, prepare for it. Still, I think happiness greatly outweighs the evil in this world. "Optimist: 1 : a doctrine that this world is the best possible world 2 : an inclination to put the most favorable construction upon actions and events or to anticipate the best possible outcome" I don't believe that this world is the best possible world. Not at all. But I also put a favorable construction on things. Failures teach me a lot, and are therefore good things. That makes me an optimist, I guess. Pessimists piss me off, which is why I hated the "grunge" music movement. I can't see myself saying, "Life is miserable and it sucks and it won't get any better." Lighten the hell up, people. Optimists piss me off. I can't stand the ever-happy joy-joy folks. "But Mrs. Kennedy, it was a gorgeous day to be in a convertible. Other than that, it was a beautiful day!" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #10 January 23, 2007 The pessimist says," Things can't get any worse." The optimist says,"Yes, they can." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawndiver 0 #11 January 23, 2007 Pessimists are never disappointed, only pleasantly surprised._________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #12 January 23, 2007 QuotePessimists are never disappointed, only pleasantly surprisedMost of the pessimists I know are rarely pleasantly surprised, because they see what didn't work so much better than what did. Since very few results are absolutely perfect, it's easy to find imperfection to focus on. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 January 23, 2007 QuoteOnce upon a time I was an idealist and an optimist..... life in the United States of America under mostly Republican administrations has shown me the error of my ways. I believe the Academy will be nominating you for an Award now......So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 January 23, 2007 Answer me this Max... Where do you think we would be now as a species... IF we had not wasted all the money necessary to kill all the millions of people in the last 60 years.. JUST since the end of WWII... if we could have used that money ofr research to cure disease.... to expand outward to the planets with manned exploration....and education that raises people up rather than concentrating so many resources on killing one another.... Most of my life... has had REpublican presidents... and the defence indultrialists have done VERY well.. but we as a species... not so much.; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #15 January 23, 2007 QuoteAnswer me this Max... Where do you think we would be now as a species... IF we had not wasted all the money necessary to kill all the millions of people in the last 60 years.. As opposed to all the money that has been wasted on entitlement and HHS programs? I'm speaking in terms the US now. Nowhere else. I know you've been around and seen things as they are. A great initiatives comparison: The Eisenhower Interstate System versus President Johnson's "Great Society". Which one created more jobs and provided a more comprehensive foundation for the economy? QuoteJUST since the end of WWII... if we could have used that money ofr research to cure disease.... to expand outward to the planets with manned exploration....and education that raises people up Um, the US and USSR did manage to advance space exploration handsomly despite the Cold War. Most research on disease over the past century has been done by the western world. The University system in the US is pretty much unmatched. Quoterather than concentrating so many resources on killing one another.... We did manage to advance our society despite the aggression that was mounted against the western democracies after WWII. I don't need to remind you of that, do I? QuoteMost of my life... has had REpublican presidents... and the defence indultrialists have done VERY well.. but we as a species... not so much.; You're entitled to your opinion of course. Just remember what you said yesterday to me, "You're right of course." So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 January 23, 2007 QuoteI know you've been around and seen things as they are. A great initiatives comparison: The Eisenhower Interstate System versus President Johnson's "Great Society". Which one created more jobs and provided a more comprehensive foundation for the economy? DEFENSE PROJECT.... Eisenhower saw how easily the Germans had moved troops on the German Autobahn and other road systems.... If the people wanted to fix the abuses in the system the Great Society initiatives COULD have gone farther to make life better for more people... many of them... rolled back or eliminated. What would be the effect of your space programs if they had the infusion of even 10% of the money that was spent on"Defence" into a REAL space program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #17 January 24, 2007 QuoteOnce upon a time I was an idealist and an optimist..... life in the United States of America under mostly Republican administrations has shown me the error of my ways. It's a dirty job, but somebody had to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #18 January 24, 2007 Quoteto expand outward to the planets with manned exploration...Somebody would be pissed because they could only afford property on the dark side of the moon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #19 January 24, 2007 QuoteWhat would be the effect of your space programs if they had the infusion of even 10% of the money that was spent on"Defence" into a REAL space program. Eh... most Americans don't give a shit about our space program unless you structure it in terms of "winning" or "losing" against an enemy, such as a race to the moon with the U.S.S.R. ...or when, every so often, something blows up. I'd love to see the results of a street quiz that asks things like, "About how high up are satellites?" or "Why do you point your DirectTV dish south?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 January 24, 2007 On a planet with dwindling resources.... I would think that "selling" a space program that WILL eventually return VAST profits to us as a species.. PLUS making us EXTINCTION proof is a starting point. Imagine how much a chunk of asteroid 5 miles across that is pretty much PURE Nickel Iron might be worth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #21 January 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteto expand outward to the planets with manned exploration...Somebody would be pissed because they could only afford property on the dark side of the moon. Sid Barret resides on the dark side of the moon, can't be all that bad. Brain Damage (Waters) The lunatic is on the grass. The lunatic is on the grass. Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs. Got to keep the loonies on the path. The lunatic is in the hall. The lunatics are in my hall. The paper holds their folded faces to the floor And every day the paper boy brings more. And if the dam breaks open many years too soon And if there is no room upon the hill And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too I'll see you on the dark side of the moon. The lunatic is in my head. The lunatic is in my head You raise the blade, you make the change You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane. You lock the door And throw away the key There's someone in my head but it's not me. And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear You shout and no one seems to hear. And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the moon. "I can't think of anything to say except... I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!""...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #22 January 24, 2007 We're having enough trouble selling renewable power sources. Deep space mining operations may be a ways out in terms of public support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 January 24, 2007 All the power we could ever need is flowing right past the planet on a daily basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #24 January 24, 2007 QuoteAll the power we could ever need is flowing right past the planet on a daily basis. You're preaching to the choir. Everything I design operates on solar power... ...oh yeah, and uh, hydrazine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #25 January 24, 2007 I hope i'm an optimist! Ahaa! ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
