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Britain had already complained about lack of consultation

Oh. You mean that small little country that sucks our country's penis every chance it gets? Gee, big surprise. I am sure there was no consultation with us prior to doing so

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I'm not saying that we should not voice concern, we should.

On the other hand.. would those mentioned have complained if/when the US tested a similar weapon?

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What about all the aid we provide to Africa that has saved hundred of thousands (if not millions) of lives, meddling in their business.

I would be fine if the US stopped handing out money to everyone and took care of its own. The US gets bashed for EVERYTHING it does. The US gives money and they didn't give enough.

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And it leaves a nasty taste every time our government does it too

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Do we have a right to be concerned about the actions of other countries (even if they are similar actions as our own)? - Of course we do.
Do we have a right to display a Holier-than-thou attitude? - Nope

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/01/19/china.missile.ap/index.html

We (the US) aren't the only ones protesting, Japan, Britain, and Australia are voicing the same opinion.

So. We don't listen to anyone why the fuck should China?

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So. We don't listen to anyone why the fuck should China?

Incorrent, we do listen. However, we don't always agree.

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Our government is responsible for the threats we now must live with on a daily basis. Our government is responisble for all terrorist actions carried out against us citizens. Stay the fuck out of everyones business and perhaps we can live safer lives.

Somalia, the embassies in Africa, the USS Cole, the WTC attacks - yup, doing nothing was a GOOD thing, wasn't it?

Whhoosh.

If you don't meddle in other peoples' affairs, quite possibly they won't hate you.

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Is everyone a fundamentalist?

I think either everybody is, or everybody isn't

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Whhoosh?

If you think someone is too stupid to realize the point that you so clearly understand, why not say that explicitly? "Whhoosh", to me, is nothing more than a rude way of showing contempt for someone's intelligence. Might as well just say you think they're stupid. A thinly veiled PA is still a PA, so why not get the full effect. A simple, "you didn't understand my point" would have worked without the insult.

Until the 20th century, the Arab world had been under the rule of (meddled) foreign oppressors for a long time. It was not the US that did that meddling.

Do you think the creation of Israel is a case of meddling that should not have happened?

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But the difference is, people often ask for help but they will never ask to be invaded, policed or treated diffrently for performing the same actions as us.

The "Do as I say and not as I do policy" is arogant in the extreme.

It's like the homeless guy standing on the street corner with a sign that says"Will work for food."

He just wants money, not responsibility, and will tell you to go screw yourself if you actually offer him a job.

I'm a firm believer in the hand up, not hand out, mentality.

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Whhoosh?

If you think someone is too stupid to realize the point that you so clearly understand, why not say that explicitly? "Whhoosh", to me, is nothing more than a rude way of showing contempt for someone's intelligence. Might as well just say you think they're stupid. A thinly veiled PA is still a PA, so why not get the full effect. A simple, "you didn't understand my point" would have worked without the insult.

Until the 20th century, the Arab world had been under the rule of (meddled) foreign oppressors for a long time. It was not the US that did that meddling.

Do you think the creation of Israel is a case of meddling that should not have happened?

Oooh, sensitive.

FYI, and IIRC, it's net shorthand for "you missed the point". BTW, just IMHO, of course. Maybe the OP will comment. OTOH, maybe he won't.

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Do you think the creation of Israel is a case of meddling that should not have happened?

People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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> Seeing as how the US does not currently have an ASAT weapon,
>I think it's appropriate to show a measure of concern.

We successfully tested our ASAT weapon in 1985 and blew up a US satellite in LEO. It is reasonable for other countries to expect to be "allowed" to do the same.

If you do a little research however, you'll see that the Pegasus Missile program was abandoned shortly after that test.

I doubt it was fully abandoned. It made too much sense for us to have the capability to shoot down satellites. It also made sense to SAY it was abandoned.

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Do you think the creation of Israel is a case of meddling that should not have happened?

IMO, MYOB.

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>It also made sense to SAY it was abandoned.

Indeed. One of the funnier episodes over the last few years was the announcement of the formation of an official Pentagon misinformation division, then the announcement a few weeks later - "oh, we've cancelled that program. Really. You can forget about it."

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I bet the generals thought themselves funny for that one.

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Do you think the creation of Israel is a case of meddling that should not have happened?

IMO, MYOB.

I'm not sure if mind your own business means yes or no. Please clarify.

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Do you think the creation of Israel is a case of meddling that should not have happened?

So it's all the U.N.s fault? I thought jewish terrorists forced its creation with the help of a rather violent terrorist campaign.

Should the U.N. have refused to recognize them? Was the responsive declaration of war by xenophobic neighboring dictatorships justified? Who really created the refugee problem there?

These and more questions will be answered by confusingly misused acronyms.

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If you do a little research however, you'll see that the Pegasus Missile program was abandoned shortly after that test.

I doubt it was fully abandoned. It made too much sense for us to have the capability to shoot down satellites. It also made sense to SAY it was abandoned.

http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/asat/almv.htm
As far as ASAT weapons development goes, I would have to hazard only a guess that it is not in the form of a missile. It's far more likely that the "missile defense" is more viable, that or LASER technology.

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http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/asat/ke_asat.htm
I don't have more information on this program, but I believe it too was cut.

If we had it to build over again, I'm sure we could fast-track it, but not with great results.

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'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
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> Seeing as how the US does not currently have an ASAT weapon,
>I think it's appropriate to show a measure of concern.

We successfully tested our ASAT weapon in 1985 and blew up a US satellite in LEO. It is reasonable for other countries to expect to be "allowed" to do the same.

If you do a little research however, you'll see that the Pegasus Missile program was abandoned shortly after that test.

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Edit to add:
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/program/asat/ke_asat.htm
I don't have more information on this program, but I believe it too was cut.

If we had it to build over again, I'm sure we could fast-track it, but not with great results.

That's very similar to the prototype kill vehicle for our missile defense shield. I'm pretty sure that could get the job done. There's got to be significant overlap so I don't think work has stopped.

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>What about all the aid we provide to Africa that has saved hundred of thousands (if not millions) of lives,

Aid provided for personal gain and nothing else.

why weren't those poor people helped in Rwanda only a few years ago? Some aid! get the whites out and who gives a fuck about the natives. what have thy got to pay us with? nothing.... fuck em!

that is the U.S.attitude to foreign Aid, I am afraid!

I live in Tanzania and very recently i read an article how the good old USA was going to assist Tanzania with infrstructure. they were going to to supply;

New roads, and american machinery, a few small diamond mines, and bridges etc.

a few small daimond mines yeah that is going to help the country. all the tanzanite mines and other daimond mines are privately owned and all the money leaves the country. omly leaving a gaping hole in the ground.

Maybe the U.S. should rid Tanzania of its 'Commie ways' and Introduce Democracy? Nah, they don't even know what democracy means.

the yanks change the spelling and meaning of words to thier own liking.

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>What about all the aid we provide to Africa that has saved hundred of thousands (if not millions) of lives,

Aid provided for personal gain and nothing else.

why weren't those poor people helped in Rwanda only a few years ago? Some aid! get the whites out and who gives a fuck about the natives. what have thy got to pay us with? nothing.... fuck em!

Oh whatever!! It was Europe and Canada that were manning the UN troops that were already there!!! Who abandoned who?

I am continuously astounded by the "memory" of societies around the world. I know the US doesn't do it all correctly all the time...but the rest of the world sure seems to like the smell of their own gas sometimes.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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>What about all the aid we provide to Africa that has saved hundred of thousands (if not millions) of lives,

Aid provided for personal gain and nothing else.

You are right, all the USA government and USA companies sending food, medicine, clothing, etc... to Africa are doing it for their own personal gain and nothing else. Seriously, we send aid that save hundreds of thousands of lives (if not millions) and yet people find a way to make it appear negative. What other countries are sending aid? What other countries are sending as much aid? Would it be better to send no aid and let everyone die?

PS: People became angry that the USA is policing the world and people become angry that the USA is not policing the world. Make up your mind, do we interfere in cases like Rwanda (and all the other possible cases) or do we mind our own business?

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