Dems nailed on troop buildup revisionism

[dorbie 0]

This highlights the naked obstructionism of the Democrats on this issue. Playing politics with troop reinforcements.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inbeltway.htm

[billvon 3,132]

I'd say it more highlights the incompetence of Reyes. His history doesn't show a pattern of deception; it shows a pattern of just plain not knowing what's going on in the first place.

[kallend 2,182]

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This highlights the naked obstructionism of the Democrats on this issue. Playing politics with troop reinforcements.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inbeltway.htm

One person is not "the Dems".

www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/18/103113.shtml?s=lh

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[Gravitymaster 0]

Bush: No More Troops for Iraq.

Washington June 29, 2005



(CBS/AP) President Bush is again rejecting suggestions that he set a timetable for leaving Iraq or that he needs to send in more U.S. troops to battle the insurgency. Setting a timetable would be "a serious mistake" that could demoralize Iraqis and American troops and embolden the enemy, he said Tuesday in a primetime speech from a North Carolina Army base.

The president also said that sending more troops would undermine the U.S. strategy of training Iraqis to be able to as quickly as possible take over the security of their country.

"Sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever," he said.

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But critics of the president's hold-the-line stance, including some key Republicans, argued Wednesday that the administration lacks sufficient troops on the ground to mount a successful counterinsurgency.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., interviewed on CBS News' The Early Show, maintained that "one of the very big mistakes early on was that he didn't have enough troops on the ground, particularly after the initial victory, and that's still the case."

Sen. John Kerry, Mr. Bush's Democratic opponent in last year's presidential election, told NBC's "Today" show that the borders of Iraq "are porous" and said "we don't have enough troops" there.

Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., appearing on ABC's "Good Morning America," disputed the notion that sufficient troops are in place.

"I'm going to send him the phone numbers of the very generals and flag officers that I met on Memorial Day when I was in Iraq," the Delaware Democrat said. "There's not enough force on the ground now to mount a real counterinsurgency."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/28/politics/main704654.shtml

When Bush says we don't need more troops, the Dems rely is that we do. When Bush says we need more troops, the Dems reply is that we don't.

[billvon 3,132]

>When Bush says we don't need more troops, the Dems rely is that we do.

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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., interviewed on CBS News' The Early Show, maintained that "one of the very big mistakes early on was that he didn't have enough troops on the ground, particularly after the initial victory, and that's still the case."
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Sounds like the democrats, the republicans AND Bush have been disagreeing and flip-flopping on this issue.

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>When Bush says we don't need more troops, the Dems rely is that we do.

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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., interviewed on CBS News' The Early Show, maintained that "one of the very big mistakes early on was that he didn't have enough troops on the ground, particularly after the initial victory, and that's still the case."
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Sounds like the democrats, the republicans AND Bush have been disagreeing and flip-flopping on this issue.

And please tell me how your post debunks what was posted by gravitymaster??

Is McCain a Dem?

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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[billvon 3,132]

>And please tell me how your post debunks what was posted by gravitymaster??

?? It doesn't. A more accurate title would have been "democrats and republicans nailed on troop buildup revisionism." But that wouldn't have slammed anyone, so I suppose such a title has no place in Speaker's Corner.

[narcimund 0]

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>And please tell me how your post debunks what was posted by gravitymaster??

?? It doesn't...

Some people can't comprehend a post that isn't a DvsR or RvsD partisan attack. They don't acknowledge any other viewpoints or other ways of sharing information.

We all have to take a little extra effort to help them follow along sometimes.

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[Zenister 0]

McCain (one of the few) has been consistent all the way through...

Bush's fundamental mistake was sidelining the MILITARY EXPERTS who ACCURATELY DESCRIBED what was necessary...

he still hasnt admitted to that and likely never will...

it is a shame enough 'top brass' didnt have the balls to object loudly and publicly when this Administration forced them into a badly planned, poorly thought out mission with less than a third of the force required to accomplish it...

Politicians always fail when they attempt to micro manage military affairs.. they should state the Objective then LISTEN when the Military responds with the Requirement. If the Cost is to high to pay Politically then perhaps the Mission isnt worth it....

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>And please tell me how your post debunks what was posted by gravitymaster??

?? It doesn't. A more accurate title would have been "democrats and republicans nailed on troop buildup revisionism." But that wouldn't have slammed anyone, so I suppose such a title has no place in Speaker's Corner.

How is McCain's consistent position of "we need more troops" revisionism?

[Lucky... 0]

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This highlights the naked obstructionism of the Democrats on this issue. Playing politics with troop reinforcements.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inbeltway.htm

This abortion belongs to your party, we don't want it. There are a couple of Repubs who back the non-binding senatorial proposition, does that mean the Repubs want to end the war? No, that was 2 of 49, or 4%.

Either way, I just can't stand how McCain says the word troops, he says, "Troopshhh." Why are our Repub leaders insistent upon murdering the English language?

[Zipp0 1]

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This highlights the naked obstructionism of the Democrats on this issue. Playing politics with troop reinforcements.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inbeltway.htm

They are not reinforcements.

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[kallend 2,182]

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When Bush says we don't need more troops, the Dems rely is that we do. When Bush says we need more troops, the Dems reply is that we don't.

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A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
A time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate,
A time for war, and a time for peace.




As usual, Bush gets the timing wrong.

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[Lucky... 0]

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When Bush says we don't need more troops, the Dems rely is that we do. When Bush says we need more troops, the Dems reply is that we don't.

For everything there is a season,
And a time for every matter under heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die;
A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
A time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate,
A time for war, and a time for peace
A time to have daddy let me join the guard so I can chickenshit out of Viet Nam, and a time to fail to appear for so-called duty so I can work on my political career.




As usual, Bush gets the timing wrong.

There, fixed it for ya.

[kallend 2,182]

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When Bush says we don't need more troops, the Dems rely is that we do. When Bush says we need more troops, the Dems reply is that we don't.

For everything there is a season,
And a time for every matter under heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die;
A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
A time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate,
A time for war, and a time for peace
A time to have daddy let me join the guard so I can chickenshit out of Viet Nam, and a time to fail to appear for so-called duty so I can work on my political career.




As usual, Bush gets the timing wrong.

There, fixed it for ya.

I thought it was just fine the way it's found in Ecclesiastes. I don't think even you can improve on 2,500 year old poetry.

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