kallend 2,154 #51 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteMost of the world at that time could not figure out what kind of brromstick the Americans have up their Collective Arses about the things he was accused of.... they respected our president even if he did get a fucking blow job..... as opposed to the psuedo-righteous every man.. who has lost us respect in MOST of the world. Perhaps the rest of the world is not so hung up on sex as the right wing in this psuedo-puritanical America that seeks to foist this stupidity on the rest of the planet..... most of the planet LIKES blow jobs.. and sex. Blah blah... still can't admit the fact that he was impeached for PERJURY, can you? And found not guilty. Don't confuse ostensible with actual reasons. The actual reason for the impeachment was, of course, envy that he got blow jobs while Henry Hyde and Newt Gingrich had to settle for plain old adultery (not that there's anything wrong with that).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #52 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteMost of the world at that time could not figure out what kind of brromstick the Americans have up their Collective Arses about the things he was accused of.... they respected our president even if he did get a fucking blow job..... as opposed to the psuedo-righteous every man.. who has lost us respect in MOST of the world. Perhaps the rest of the world is not so hung up on sex as the right wing in this psuedo-puritanical America that seeks to foist this stupidity on the rest of the planet..... most of the planet LIKES blow jobs.. and sex. Blah blah... still can't admit the fact that he was impeached for PERJURY, can you? And found not guilty. Don't confuse ostensible with actual reasons. The actual reason for the impeachment was, of course, envy that he got blow jobs while Henry Hyde and Newt Gingrich had to settle for plain old adultery (not that there's anything wrong with that). Prove it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #53 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMost of the world at that time could not figure out what kind of brromstick the Americans have up their Collective Arses about the things he was accused of.... they respected our president even if he did get a fucking blow job..... as opposed to the psuedo-righteous every man.. who has lost us respect in MOST of the world. Perhaps the rest of the world is not so hung up on sex as the right wing in this psuedo-puritanical America that seeks to foist this stupidity on the rest of the planet..... most of the planet LIKES blow jobs.. and sex. Blah blah... still can't admit the fact that he was impeached for PERJURY, can you? And found not guilty. Don't confuse ostensible with actual reasons. The actual reason for the impeachment was, of course, envy that he got blow jobs while Henry Hyde and Newt Gingrich had to settle for plain old adultery (not that there's anything wrong with that). Prove it. Here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #54 January 13, 2007 QuoteGreat in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. They won, get over it, you look foolish. Not my fault your Dem buddies couldn't operate a punch card Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #55 January 13, 2007 QuoteOr just don't bother to answer due not not knowing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There, fixed it for ya I know the answer... I would ask you, but you will just claim you don't use "proof" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #56 January 13, 2007 QuoteBlah Blah Blah.... you still cant get over that what he said was a very carfully worded lawyerly semantics game based on the same cdap that a hell of a lot of men in the south still believe.. that a blowjob... is NOT having sexual relations with that woman. The why did he admit it once he left office? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #57 January 13, 2007 There was just a story about that kind of test on NPR yesterday, a black woman was recalling how the white registrars refused to register her to vote because she couldn't guess how many jellybeans were in a jar on the table. They would also demand that she recite the Preamble to the Constitution (the "We the people of the United States..." bit) and to their horror she recited it perfectly and they finally gave in. Any test would NEVER be applied equally by any governing party currently in office. It would always be applied strictly against those out of favor and waived altogether for those in favor. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteBlah Blah Blah.... you still cant get over that what he said was a very carfully worded lawyerly semantics game based on the same cdap that a hell of a lot of men in the south still believe.. that a blowjob... is NOT having sexual relations with that woman. The why did he admit it once he left office? He admited to a felony??????? Say it aint so!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #59 January 13, 2007 Ok what state do you live in where a blow job is a felony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #60 January 13, 2007 For those that refuse to admit things. Not telling the truth UNDER OATH, IS a felony. Oh the pain of it all"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 January 13, 2007 Former U.S. President Bill Clinton was accused of perjury--and as a result was fined for contempt of court, agreed to be disbarred, and was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998. The Senate rejected the perjury with 55 not-guilty votes and 45 guilty votes. No criminal charges were ever brought. Gee in this country... you are innocent until PROVEN guilty....unless of course you do not follow the goose step of this administration... then you can be put in jail in foreign countires indefinitely for what ever they deem... since you are an enemy of the state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #62 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." Great in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. It's rather telling how all the screams of 'voting fraud' only happen when the Dems don't win... Perhaps you can tell me when the Dems have even been accused of voting fraud, let alone a Watergate type scandal. We know the Repubs are stuffy old tight-asses who likely won't be involved in as many sex scandals, but they have their form of corruption like voting fraud and running up the debt to shift $$$ off to their buddies who own military corps. I'm sure you don't mind police profiling, so don't mind me when I politiican profile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #63 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuote Prove it. Here. He was of course disbarred from practicing law before the Supreme Court and suspended and fined in Arkansas. He did lie under oath in the Paula Jones lawsuit. It's absolutely black & white, you have to claim he never had the affair with Lewinski to maintain he was innocent and if you're really claiming Clinton never had an affair with Lewinski then Clinton isn't the only one who has problems with the truth. The whole outcome of the political process in congress is tangential to his actual conduct & guilt for which he was punished, it only serves to illustrate that politics corrupts law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #64 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?" Yes, yes, and yes. See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do. The major ramification is that we have the electoral college. Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was? Ask me, ask me. Consider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Why make this an insult? A) How is it an insult? B) It has more to do with the fact that Kallend is intel rather than not born here. Don't be so touchy... The inuendo was someone born outside the US is the only one that knew the answer I don't think he meant the only one, just the one who readily knew. Again, quit with the hypersensitivity.... or PM the HH and see if you can get Quade thrown out of here for hurting your feelings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #65 January 14, 2007 QuoteNever assume anything about operator priority. The Viking spacecraft was lost due to unwarranted assumptions about FORTRAN syntax. I'm sure you'll agree, that mistake resulted from a different kind of assumption about a different kind of operator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #66 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote Prove it. Here. He was of course disbarred from practicing law before the Supreme Court and suspended and fined in Arkansas. He did lie under oath in the Paula Jones lawsuit. It's absolutely black & white, you have to claim he never had the affair with Lewinski to maintain he was innocent and if you're really claiming Clinton never had an affair with Lewinski then Clinton isn't the only one who has problems with the truth. The whole outcome of the political process in congress is tangential to his actual conduct & guilt for which he was punished, it only serves to illustrate that politics corrupts law. Well, there's what you can assume, and what has actually been proven. The entire business was politics driven, including the original Jones lawsuit, paid for by the GOP faithful.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #67 January 14, 2007 Quote Well, there's what you can assume, and what has actually been proven. The entire business was politics driven, including the original Jones lawsuit, paid for by the GOP faithful. Well that's an assumption, but we still know for a FACT that Clinton lied under oath during what you call a "GOP driven" lawsuit. The subsequent punishment he received would have happened to any lawyer caught in the same lie. Calling these few simple facts into question is politically driven. I don't think anyone can deny that he was guilty of lying under oath with any credibility, and for this he was caught & punished. "And I'd have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you pesky lawyers putting the squeeze on Lewinski." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #68 January 14, 2007 Quote He was of course disbarred from practicing law before the Supreme Court and suspended and fined in Arkansas. He did lie under oath in the Paula Jones lawsuit. It's absolutely black & white, you have to claim he never had the affair with Lewinski to maintain he was innocent and if you're really claiming Clinton never had an affair with Lewinski then Clinton isn't the only one who has problems with the truth. Guilty or not, the admission late resulted in a new trial which he had to settle for an undisclosed sum. An 'innocent' man wouldn't have had to pay a dime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #69 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuote Well, there's what you can assume, and what has actually been proven. The entire business was politics driven, including the original Jones lawsuit, paid for by the GOP faithful. Well that's an assumption, but we still know for a FACT that Clinton lied under oath during what you call a "GOP driven" lawsuit. The subsequent punishment he received would have happened to any lawyer caught in the same lie. Calling these few simple facts into question is politically driven. I don't think anyone can deny that he was guilty of lying under oath with any credibility, and for this he was caught & punished. "And I'd have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you pesky lawyers putting the squeeze on Lewinski." It is a matter of record that Jones's legal fund was supplied primarily by the Rutherford Institute, a right wing think tank. $50,000 was given by Washington tax lawyer and conservative activist William Lehrfeld.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #70 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuote He was of course disbarred from practicing law before the Supreme Court and suspended and fined in Arkansas. He did lie under oath in the Paula Jones lawsuit. It's absolutely black & white, you have to claim he never had the affair with Lewinski to maintain he was innocent and if you're really claiming Clinton never had an affair with Lewinski then Clinton isn't the only one who has problems with the truth. Guilty or not, the admission late resulted in a new trial which he had to settle for an undisclosed sum. An 'innocent' man wouldn't have had to pay a dime. Well there's innocence from lying under oath and innocence from the accusation of sexual harassment and you're mixing the two now. Naturally if he'd told the truth he might have lost the lawsuit in the first place, admitting that you're currently having sex with your staff doesn't look good in a sexual harassment case, which is of course why he chose to lie under oath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #71 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote Well, there's what you can assume, and what has actually been proven. The entire business was politics driven, including the original Jones lawsuit, paid for by the GOP faithful. Well that's an assumption, but we still know for a FACT that Clinton lied under oath during what you call a "GOP driven" lawsuit. The subsequent punishment he received would have happened to any lawyer caught in the same lie. Calling these few simple facts into question is politically driven. I don't think anyone can deny that he was guilty of lying under oath with any credibility, and for this he was caught & punished. "And I'd have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you pesky lawyers putting the squeeze on Lewinski." It is a matter of record that Jones's legal fund was supplied primarily by the Rutherford Institute, a right wing think tank. $50,000 was given by Washington tax lawyer and conservative activist William Lehrfeld. This does not mitigate Clinton's crime, he lied under oath. If the GOP funded it that just makes him a bigger fool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #72 January 14, 2007 I'd agree with the IQ<150 part... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #73 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Well, there's what you can assume, and what has actually been proven. The entire business was politics driven, including the original Jones lawsuit, paid for by the GOP faithful. Well that's an assumption, but we still know for a FACT that Clinton lied under oath during what you call a "GOP driven" lawsuit. The subsequent punishment he received would have happened to any lawyer caught in the same lie. Calling these few simple facts into question is politically driven. I don't think anyone can deny that he was guilty of lying under oath with any credibility, and for this he was caught & punished. "And I'd have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you pesky lawyers putting the squeeze on Lewinski." It is a matter of record that Jones's legal fund was supplied primarily by the Rutherford Institute, a right wing think tank. $50,000 was given by Washington tax lawyer and conservative activist William Lehrfeld. This does not mitigate Clinton's crime, he lied under oath. If the GOP funded it that just makes him a bigger fool. Just pointing out that what you claimed as an assumption is acually fact. You seem to confuse fact and assumption altogether too much about Clinton.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #74 January 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote And found not guilty. Don't confuse ostensible with actual reasons. The actual reason for the impeachment was, of course, envy that he got blow jobs while Henry Hyde and Newt Gingrich had to settle for plain old adultery (not that there's anything wrong with that). Prove it. Here. Oddly enough, there's nothing on that page or the articles of impeachment saying "We're jealous that he got a blowjob". Try again.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #75 January 15, 2007 Quote You seem to confuse fact and assumption altogether too much about Clinton. That is a conveniently vague and self-serving remark. At least you're not denying that he perjured himself, your weak smokescreen is no substitute for a denial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites