champu 1 #26 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteShould people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote? Great idea! Exclude anyone with an IQ <150 and no doctorate. Ah! But the exclusion operator resolves before the AND operator! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 January 13, 2007 QuoteI propose that a candidate be able to pass an intelligence exam before being allowed to run for office. Bush, most likely, would have had trouble figuring out which end of the pencil to use. Wow... and he had a HIGHER GPA than Kerry did...where's that leave HIM?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #28 January 13, 2007 Quote he had a HIGHER GPA than Kerry Dey use one of dem GPAs at my DZ to spot the plane! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuote he had a HIGHER GPA than Kerry Dey use one of dem GPAs at my DZ to spot the plane! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #30 January 13, 2007 QuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." That's the best solution I have ever heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #31 January 13, 2007 QuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." Great in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #32 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?" Yes, yes, and yes. See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do. The major ramification is that we have the electoral college. Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was? Ask me, ask me. Consider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Why make this an insult? A) How is it an insult? B) It has more to do with the fact that Kallend is intel rather than not born here. Don't be so touchy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #33 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteConsider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Why make this an insult? (It's certainly NOT an insult at Kallend) Why?!? Are you kidding me?!? This is a High-School Civics 101 question and most of the people on this thread apparently didn't do well in it; are willing to debate topics ranging from the entire gammut of the Consitution night and day, yet seem to not know the answers to even the most basic questions! To ME, as a person that takes the time and effort to vote, it's insulting that other people don't know the process. A guy at work was naturalizing from Switzerland, he knew as much as I did at that time about the US and the Const, whereas virtually all of the coworkers were nowhere close to his knowledge. Sad.... pathetic. I think born citizens feel that they have a bye on this knowledge, rather than having a greater burden to know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #34 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteThis is a High-School Civics 101 question and most of the people on this thread apparently didn't do well in it; are willing to debate topics ranging from the entire gammut of the Consitution night and day, yet seem to not know the answers to even the most basic questions! Or just don't bother to answer due not not knowing There, fixed it for ya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." Great in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. It's rather telling how all the screams of 'voting fraud' only happen when the Dems don't win...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #36 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?" Yes, yes, and yes. See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do. The major ramification is that we have the electoral college. Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was? Ask me, ask me. Consider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Federalist #68 (Publius, aka Alexander Hamilton) It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided. This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture. It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief. The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. Or, to paraphrase, "we the elite don't trust the masses to make the right decision".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 January 13, 2007 QuoteOr, to paraphrase, "we the elite don't trust the masses to make the right decision" Or maybe they saw the pitfalls of a "classic" democracy and wanted to avoid them... Of course, it doesn't hardly matter anymore... the masses still get their 'bread and circuses' from Big Mama FedGov...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #38 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." Great in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. It's rather telling how all the screams of 'voting fraud' only happen when the Dems don't win... Funny, I have heard all kinds of stories about John F. Kennedy's election that give the lie to your claim.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #39 January 13, 2007 Quote (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Hey, I have also won 1st prize in a quiz on US geography and can say "alooominum"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #40 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." Great in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. It's rather telling how all the screams of 'voting fraud' only happen when the Dems don't win... Funny, I have heard all kinds of stories about John F. Kennedy's election that give the lie to your claim. Can we bring up Hizonner, too? I'm sure Daley's hijinks (pere or fils, take your pick) are equally valid. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #41 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes." Great in theroy, but think of the coruption our Repub brothers would employ when they didn;t have to count knocked out chads but read names. Otherwise a great idea. It's rather telling how all the screams of 'voting fraud' only happen when the Dems don't win... Funny, I have heard all kinds of stories about John F. Kennedy's election that give the lie to your claim. Can we bring up Hizonner, too? I'm sure Daley's hijinks (pere or fils, take your pick) are equally valid. According to ordinance, within the Chicago city limits a death certificate is an acceptable substitute for a voter registration card. And why not - a dead guy was elected Senator in Missouri a few years ago, and right now we have a brain-dead president.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #42 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?" Yes, yes, and yes. See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do. The major ramification is that we have the electoral college. Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was? Ask me, ask me. Consider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Why make this an insult? A) How is it an insult? B) It has more to do with the fact that Kallend is intel rather than not born here. Don't be so touchy... The inuendo was someone born outside the US is the only one that knew the answer"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteConsider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Why make this an insult? (It's certainly NOT an insult at Kallend) Why?!? Are you kidding me?!? This is a High-School Civics 101 question and most of the people on this thread apparently didn't do well in it; are willing to debate topics ranging from the entire gammut of the Consitution night and day, yet seem to not know the answers to even the most basic questions! To ME, as a person that takes the time and effort to vote, it's insulting that other people don't know the process. Sorry if my post was confusing. I know an insult was NOT aimed at kallend. I to agree that not knowing the process is bad. I took you remark as an insult to others who had not yet answered you and that a US born was not the first. If I miss read you point forgive me."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #44 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteConsider the question asked, my good Professor! (Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!) Why make this an insult? (It's certainly NOT an insult at Kallend) Why?!? Are you kidding me?!? This is a High-School Civics 101 question and most of the people on this thread apparently didn't do well in it; are willing to debate topics ranging from the entire gammut of the Consitution night and day, yet seem to not know the answers to even the most basic questions! To ME, as a person that takes the time and effort to vote, it's insulting that other people don't know the process. Sorry if my post was confusing. I know an insult was NOT aimed at kallend. I to agree that not knowing the process is bad. I took you remark as an insult to others who had not yet answered you and that a US born was not the first. If I miss read you point forgive me. Well, I gave you "natives" sixteen hours to do something before I posted. Not my fault if you can't manage it in sixteen hours.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 January 13, 2007 QuoteWell, I gave you "natives" sixteen hours to do something before I posted. Not my fault if you can't manage it in sixteen hours. Personally I would like the same standard applied to the "natives" to get their citizenship in this fine country. Perhaps if more had to study and learn the lessons of the past, far fewer mistakes would be happening in our present. Electing our government based on a popularity contest of being..."just one of the good old boys" aint working so well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,154 #46 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteShould people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote? Great idea! Exclude anyone with an IQ <150 and no doctorate. Ah! But the exclusion operator resolves before the AND operator! Never assume anything about operator priority. The Viking spacecraft was lost due to unwarranted assumptions about FORTRAN syntax.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 January 13, 2007 QuoteElecting our government based on a popularity contest of being..."just one of the good old boys" aint working so well. Neither is "he's an intellectual". It's come down to being a raw popularity contest the last few decades, more's the pity.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #48 January 13, 2007 Most of the world at that time could not figure out what kind of brromstick the Americans have up their Collective Arses about the things he was accused of.... they respected our president even if he did get a fucking blow job..... as opposed to the psuedo-righteous every man.. who has lost us respect in MOST of the world. Perhaps the rest of the world is not so hung up on sex as the right wing in this psuedo-puritanical America that seeks to foist this stupidity on the rest of the planet..... most of the planet LIKES blow jobs.. and sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #49 January 13, 2007 QuoteMost of the world at that time could not figure out what kind of brromstick the Americans have up their Collective Arses about the things he was accused of.... they respected our president even if he did get a fucking blow job..... as opposed to the psuedo-righteous every man.. who has lost us respect in MOST of the world. Perhaps the rest of the world is not so hung up on sex as the right wing in this psuedo-puritanical America that seeks to foist this stupidity on the rest of the planet..... most of the planet LIKES blow jobs.. and sex. Blah blah... still can't admit the fact that he was impeached for PERJURY, can you?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #50 January 13, 2007 QuoteBlah blah... still can't admit the fact that he was impeached for PERJURY, can you? Blah Blah Blah.... you still cant get over that what he said was a very carfully worded lawyerly semantics game based on the same cdap that a hell of a lot of men in the south still believe.. that a blowjob... is NOT having sexual relations with that woman. ONLY sexual intercourse counts..... and as many here claim.. its just a release... so you dont mess up the sheets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
