Voting / Intelligence

[Butters 0]

Should people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[NCclimber 0]

In the same vein as poll taxes?

[billvon 3,120]

Nope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes."

[wmw999 2,590]

Only if I get to design the test

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[freeflir29 0]

It wouldn't matter. Voters on both sides seem range from rich to poor and retarded to intelligent. Ever hear this joke regarding the old voter registration cards in the south?

An old black man walks in to vote and the white guy behind the counter hands him a card. The guy says "You have to be able to read this card to me in order to vote."

The black man stares at it for a second and says "I can't read but I know what this says. "Ain't no niggers votin here today."


The same premise would apply.

[rushmc 23]

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Nope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes."

billvon, this make sense!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kelpdiver 2]

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Should people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote?

sounds a bit like separate but equal.

[kallend 2,154]

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Should people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote?

Great idea! Exclude anyone with an IQ <150 and no doctorate.

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[freethefly 6]

I propose that a candidate be able to pass an intelligence exam before being allowed to run for office. Bush, most likely, would have had trouble figuring out which end of the pencil to use.

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When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[Zeppo 0]

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Nope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes."

Here Here! It can be difficult to choose the lessor of two evils...or even worse, voting cause you heard his name on TV.

What goes up, must come DOWN!!!

[quade 4]

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Should people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote?

Lemme answer that question with this;

"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?"

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Butters 0]

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Article II

Section 1.

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each state having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

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"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?"

Yes, yes, and yes.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[livendive 8]

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Should people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote?

Intelligence and knowledge of history have almost nothing to do with each other.

Blues,
Dave

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(drink Mountain Dew)

[DaVinci 0]

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Should people be required to pass a basic intelligence test (consisting of history/logic/etc... questions) before they can vote?

No, it goes against the Constitution.

[quade 4]

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"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?"

Yes, yes, and yes.

See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do.

The major ramification is that we have the electoral college.

Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rehmwa 2]

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See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do.

why, just because someone puts up the poll doesn't mean they advocate it

maybe some people do -

a lot here can't get the idea that just because you have an opinion on something doesn't mean you want a law on it, just have the opinion

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[AggieDave 6]

On the surface some people will say "yes they should" since many people don't agree with their own personal opinion. However, we had this sort of setup years ago in the form of poll taxes. They were found unconstitutional for a reason.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[quade 4]

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why, just because someone puts up the poll doesn't mean they advocate it

Not saying he does, just expanding on the topic a bit here . . . wait for it and you'll see where I'm going.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[kallend 2,154]

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"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?"

Yes, yes, and yes.

See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do.

The major ramification is that we have the electoral college.

Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was?

Ask me, ask me.

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[quade 4]

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"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?"

Yes, yes, and yes.

See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do.

The major ramification is that we have the electoral college.

Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was?

Ask me, ask me.

Consider the question asked, my good Professor!

(Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!)

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[matthewcline 0]

No, it didn't.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[rushmc 23]

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"Do you know what Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constition says? Do you know what it means? Do you know the ramifications of it?"

Yes, yes, and yes.

See, here's the thing . . . I'm not entirely sure you do.

The major ramification is that we have the electoral college.

Now, can you tell me what the original point of that was?

Ask me, ask me.

Consider the question asked, my good Professor!

(Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!)

Why make this an insult?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[willard 0]

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Nope. Just give people a blank ballot and let em vote for whoever they want. That way if they don't even know who's running, they can't vote for a party, and they can't just "fill in the boxes."

But...but...but...that just makes too much sense.
Ever notice that the things that were supposed to make voting easier and more accurate are the things that screw the whole mess up?

[quade 4]

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Consider the question asked, my good Professor!

(Other people please take note: it took a person not born in the U.S. to figure it out!)

Why make this an insult?

(It's certainly NOT an insult at Kallend)

Why?!? Are you kidding me?!?

This is a High-School Civics 101 question and most of the people on this thread apparently didn't do well in it; are willing to debate topics ranging from the entire gammut of the Consitution night and day, yet seem to not know the answers to even the most basic questions!

To ME, as a person that takes the time and effort to vote, it's insulting that other people don't know the process.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[DaVinci 0]

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This is a High-School Civics 101 question and most of the people on this thread apparently didn't do well in it; are willing to debate topics ranging from the entire gammut of the Consitution night and day, yet seem to not know the answers to even the most basic questions!

Or just don't bother to answer.