Gene03 0 #1 January 7, 2007 Oh shit. no links yet stay tuned for more information.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #2 January 7, 2007 what the hell are you talking about?This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #3 January 7, 2007 Quotewhat the hell are you talking about? Probably this: http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/16295097.htm"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 January 7, 2007 Didn't this happen last year too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #5 January 7, 2007 That was the 2005 incident. This is the one I was talking about. Shit, here we go again. http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/10686609/detail.html“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #6 January 7, 2007 Do you have some inside information on this? I can't find where the victims name has been released yet. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #7 January 7, 2007 Howdy Josh, All I know for now is what i've posted or heard on the local (SE Wisc) radio station. The police are doing their job and staying tight lipped on this one. P.S. give Mo a hug for me?“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #8 January 7, 2007 I googled and found a Yahoo video from what appears to be the local CBS affiliate. I'm not sure you should have put Hmong in the title until we have a bit more info? Leemo will get her hug. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #9 January 7, 2007 Ya, maybe not but that's all they're talking about now. It is the media though.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #10 January 8, 2007 Just seen on the news he was Hmong and a young looking kid also from the photo.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #11 January 8, 2007 Edit to remark: I hope it's the original shooter who was found dead in prison. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #12 January 8, 2007 QuoteEdit to remark: I hope it's the original shooter who was found dead in prison. mh Nope. This man was Cha Vang - The article describes him as a refugee immigrant with a wife and five children, who was out hunting for small game. (the incident two years ago was with Chai Soua Vang) Don't know if there was any family connection. Speculation will just lead to assumptions. They have someone they are holding for questioning... but who knows if he had anything to do with it or if he was just injured himself at the wrong time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #13 January 8, 2007 I wonder if the other guy, who was shot, was part of an unrelated incident. I'm not sure I see how this could mean that they were both in the same shootout with each other.... I'm surprised conflicts over hunting areas doesn't result in more violence. I've been in a couple disputes myself, when some out of state hunter tried to run me off property that his guide said was private. I knew the land was public land and I refused to leave. Then a huge argument, complete with name calling erupted. Everyone was packing rifles and things could have gotten out of hand. When I later contacted the state lands people and the game warden, little was done about it other than a small amount of lip service. No citations were issued and they refused to do anything to the guide service that was hunting that public land. The second time it happened, on the same land, the guided hunter told me I was trespassing, and I said bull shit. This led to another argument. When I called the state lands people the guide service said it never happened. Since I was alone, there were no witnesses. This is one of many reasons I am thinking of bagging hunting. Even here in Montana, there are just too many hunters trying to find a decent place to hunt....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #14 January 8, 2007 Here in PA, people always seem to be very nice to eachother when they are both armed out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe the fact that PA has less and less hunters has something to do with it. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 January 8, 2007 QuoteEveryone was packing rifles and things could have gotten out of hand1 I think it's a tribute to you and the other hunters. Because today the kids are taught that guns will "Actually, just jump out on their own and have a gunfight unless completely restrained" In this case the hunters restrained their wild and unpredictable guns in lieu of a government ban. Self-shooting homocidal gun robots absolutely need to be controlled lest they just go off in public. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #16 January 8, 2007 Quote Maybe the fact that PA has less and less hunters has something to do with it. ........................................................................... This is the case in many places. I think the fact that we now have fewer places to hunt has a lot to do with this. Instead of finding open land where wildlife thrives, instead of finding open land where you can actually fire a rifle, there are now houses, highways, and towns. In the few places where you could once have a quality time hunting, it is often overrun with other hunters. There is often few game or birds left in such places to hunt. So, if you can't have a good time in the field why even bother hunting. I hate to be so negative, but this is how I am beginning to see the sport. Perhaps this is just another sign that our planet is overpopulated....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #17 January 8, 2007 The autopsy is finished and the coroner says homicide. The 28 yr old person of interest is being held pending charges.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #18 January 10, 2007 Latest I heard tonight on the news. White dude runs into Hmong hunter. Heated racial exchange ensues. Hmong hunter shoots white dude, twice, once in each hand. White dude pulls hunting knife and stabs Hmong hunter multiple times. Self defense? What am I missing here?“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 January 10, 2007 To be shot in the hands might indicate that the caucasian person of interest here may have had their hands up in a defensive posture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #20 January 10, 2007 If the initial victim in this case did close with, and engage the enemy with a knife, some somebody somewhere, is toasting that mans drill instructor with an ice cold beer. Damn fine job of self defense. NEVER, EVER, LAY DOWN, AND REFUSE TO FIGHT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #21 January 10, 2007 I wonder where this evidence is coming from? Is it coming from the "white dude"? If so, wouldn't it be in his best interest to explain it that way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #22 January 10, 2007 Just like the last incident in '05 I doubt if we will ever know the real truth. Hell I wasn't there. My take on both shootings is a little bit different that the media or the juries conclusions. We'll discuss this next time we get together. 28 yr old white dude, has a felony record for robbing cabins and spray painting KKK on one of them. I know, I know it shouldn't have any bearing on this case.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #23 January 10, 2007 Quote28 yr old white dude, has a felony record for robbing cabins and spray painting KKK on one of them. I know, I know it shouldn't have any bearing on this case. It's possible that it means that the white racist was likely the aggressor in the incident... But if the aggression was only in the form of verbal taunts, then the "sticks and stones" rule applies, and that is not justification for the Hmong man to shoot. However, if the racist went beyond verbal, and threatened with a gun or knife, then all rules are off, and self defense rules apply. Quote: "According to James, Nichols was squirrel hunting about 4:30 p.m. Friday when he heard someone come up to him. 'He turns around and tells the guy that he needs to go to a different spot, that he was molesting his hunt and scaring the squirrels away,' she said. 'Jim said the guy started talking in gibberish that he couldn't understand and then fired at him.' "It sounds a bit far-fetched to me that he would just shoot for no apparent reason... It'll be interesting to see how this comes out. News Stories Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #24 January 10, 2007 Why is this a bigger deal than all the other murders that have happened recently? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #25 January 10, 2007 QuoteWhy is this a bigger deal than all the other murders that have happened recently? Why heck, this one has hints of racism, immigrants, culture clash, high-powered guns, and hand to hand combat! It's not like those boring run-of-the mill drive-by gang shootings. Seriously, yeah, you're right. They're all lousy tragedies. But the press loves this kind of sensationalism, and they'll ride it for all it's worth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
