chuteless 1 #126 January 11, 2007 SEE PM : The antichrist is Satan in the body and mind of a man in the last days. He will destroy much of Israel, and will set himself up as god in Jerusalem, on a throne. He will also destroy many nations, but ONLY after Satan has entered his mind and body. He is setting up for attacks on three nations not long after the demise of the USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #127 January 11, 2007 I certainly KNOW the theology you speak of (brought up Southern Baptist) but I don't see anywhere in scripture it refers to ani-christ as being one man. It sells books/movies, but it is not biblically accurate, if that matters. If you have that passage where the original manuscripts/copies say anti-christ as singular please enlighten me. I've searched for decades and cannot find it. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #128 January 11, 2007 QuoteSEE PM : The antichrist is Satan in the body and mind of a man in the last days. He will destroy much of Israel, and will set himself up as god in Jerusalem, on a throne. He will also destroy many nations, but ONLY after Satan has entered his mind and body. He is setting up for attacks on three nations not long after the demise of the USA. Stop taking the blue pill and start taking the red pill, it will help to regain your grasp of reality."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #129 January 11, 2007 oops -- double post. But I'd seriously like to find the passage where ant-christ is spoken about being ONE man. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #130 January 11, 2007 First, the antichrist is referred to in several ways in the Old Testament, and also in Revelation. As I stated, I know who he is, but I decline to mention his name at this point in time. I am just not sure if I should, so rather than offend the Lord, I will wait awhile until something tells me otherwise. He is referred to as "the man of sin will be revealed" ( I believe) in Galatians. There are other references through the New Testament. I will get some more difintive information later today, and PM it to you tomorrow. Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #131 January 11, 2007 Don't PM, respond here. Others I'm sure would find some interest steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #132 January 11, 2007 Quote .... Stop taking the blue pill and start taking the red pill, it will help to regain your grasp of reality. Stop talking nonsens, dude - if you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to STFU dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #133 January 11, 2007 The man of sin you are referring to is in Paul's second letter to the church in Thesslonica. You have to perform some exegetical gymnastics to marry that term with the term "anti-christs". Paul was writing to the church in that very day warning them of a man who would set himself up as a God to be worshipped. Domitian would fit that description. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #134 January 11, 2007 QuoteQuote .... Stop taking the blue pill and start taking the red pill, it will help to regain your grasp of reality. Stop talking nonsens, dude - if you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to STFU I do know what they are talking about. I think it is based in fantasy and not reality."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,585 #135 January 11, 2007 QuoteI do believe we are in the end time too though. People have believed that ever since the bible was published. I had thought we'd all grown out of it by now - guess I was wrongDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yjumpinoz 0 #136 January 11, 2007 Pardon my lack of Bible knowledge, but if you know who the anti-christ is why not knock him off? Was he born the anti-christ or did he become and you could not kill him? I thought all along my ex-wife was the anti-christ. My mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #137 January 11, 2007 Quote I do know what they are talking about. I think it is based in fantasy and not reality. Who is "they"??? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #138 January 11, 2007 QuoteQuote I do know what they are talking about. I think it is based in fantasy and not reality. Who is "they"??? It's them. You know, not us... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #139 January 11, 2007 Ah oui - les autres Met some ot them from time to time on my way around the world dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #140 January 11, 2007 In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do believe we are in the end time too though. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuotePeople have believed that ever since the bible was published. I had thought we'd all grown out of it by now - guess I was wrong The whole concept of time insinuates a beginning and an end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,098 #141 January 11, 2007 >The whole concept of time insinuates a beginning and an end. I think perhaps the concept of "infinite" is a good one to consider here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,585 #142 January 12, 2007 QuoteThe whole concept of time insinuates a beginning and an end. Which has bugger all to do with seriously believing Jesus is about to beam you up to the mothership.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #143 January 12, 2007 I would most strongly advise anyone interested, to check these things out in the Authorized King James Bible, as the modern versions have so many ommissions, alterations, and does not give the true meanings of the scriptures, especially the NIV....which I suggest shoul be called the HIV. Bill Steve: Just as Satan entered into the body and mind of Judas Iscariot, he will enter the body and mind of a man in the end times.(Luke22:3 and John 13:27) The man of today, is well known in the world. When Paul was writing his letters to the Thessalonians in 54 A.D., he was admonishing the people for waivering in their faith, and in doing so, Paul told them that the Day of the Lord is "at hand" Paul knew it was in the future, but he did not know how far. However, the number 6 6 6 is a number symbolic of the three periods of time in this world. The first six, was from Adam to the flood of Noah in 1656, the second 6 is from the flood to the birth of Christ, in 3760,and the third six represents from the birth of Jesus till the end.....soon. Paul was telling his people, that as the Day of the Lord is "at hand", they should not allow themselves to be deceived by any man, by any means, and thus fall from their faith in God. Paul then states that certain things much come to pass before the Day of the Lord, and that it will not come, except there will be a falling away of the faith in God first, and the man of Sin, the antichrist, Satan in a man's mind and body, will be revealed. This is the antichrist, that will exalt himself above all that is called God, and will set himself upon a throne in Jerusalem, as God, and he will show himself to be God.,( 2nd Thess, 2:3-5) He will stand in that pleasant land ( Israel) and also referred to as the glorious land, Daniel 11:21, Daniel 11:16, 41 ). It is this antichrist, leading the nations against Israel, that will make Jerusalem, a den of dragons, (Chinese dragons) Jeremiah 9:11 and 10:22 ) And then shall that Wicked be revealed to the world, and the Lord will in time, consume him, whose work is coming after Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. And for those who will be deceived, God will send them a delusion, that they might believe a lie, that the antichrist is God, ( 2 Thess 2:9-11). This man, whom will be entered by Satan as Judas was, is a world figure at this time. Once the USA has fallen, this man will attack three nations., and will destroy them. The WORD of God does not say which nations, but I believe it will be Iraq,Iran, and Saudi Arabia, thus giving this antichrist control over much of the world's oil. He is not Chinese, but will act in league with them. In the end times, ( Revelation 13:2 to 5, ) there will be a compilation of small nations giving their support and economies to China, who will dominate the whole world. They include England, Russia, France, and Japan, who is described as the beast that was wounded by the ( atomic) sword and did live. It not only lived, but thrived, and all the world wondered after that beast, at its redevelopment after world war II. And the Dragon ( China) gave the beast, its power, his seat, and great authority, (Rev 13:2 ) The antichrist is the "mouth" (Revelation 13:5, ) that will make war against the saints of God, and he will prevail for a time ( 42 months, 1260 days, or 3 1/2 years ) It is the antichrist ( Daniel 9:24 to 27) that will cut off the Messiah, and the daily sacrifice unto God. This time frame, is also the third period of 70 years as mentioned earlier, a time period that will conclude in 2017, when the remaining Jews will finally accept the Messiah, ( Zechariah 13:8-9, and 14;1-3 ). So Steve, the antichrist is he whom Paul is speaking of, and that will appear after a falling away from the faith in God. He is the Wicked one, and he is tha one who will make a an idol to the beast that was wounded by the atomic sword, and did live. He is the mouth, that speaks great things against God, and will set himself up as God in Jerusalem.. He is the one who will cause as many as will not believe in the beast, and worship it, to be put to death ( Daniel 7:25 ). It is this man, this antichrist that Paul was speaking off, that has to come before the Day of the alord, and although Paul did not realize it would be more than 2000 years later, he was still speaking to the Thessalonians in the time period that is represented by ther third and final 6, as seen in the 6 6 6. There are many mentions of the antichrist as he leads the nations of the world against Jerusalem, and to the battle of Armageddon. This willtake place after the falling away of worship and faith in God, and you can see how that has been developing for more than the past 100 years, getting worse all the time. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #144 January 12, 2007 Is that you, Ripsmacker?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #145 January 12, 2007 QuoteSteve: Just as Satan entered into the body and mind of Judas Iscariot, he will enter the body and mind of a man in the end times.(Luke22:3 and John 13:27) The man of today, is well known in the world. So who is this man that will become (or is) the anti-christ? PS: When I read this I picture a man in a cave lit by candles holding a bible while mumbling, "my precious", over and over again. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #146 January 12, 2007 QuoteThere are many mentions of the antichrist as he leads the nations of the world against Jerusalem, and to the battle of Armageddon. This willtake place after the falling away of worship and faith in God, and you can see how that has been developing for more than the past 100 years, getting worse all the time. Bill Cole And I thought statistics showed that Christianity was growing?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #147 January 12, 2007 I know for absolute certainty who he is, but I have mixed feelings about giving his name, and I am not sure why these feelings exist, but they do. I will leave his name until I feel better about it. Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #148 January 12, 2007 QuoteI know for absolute certainty who he is, Is it Bill Von? Is it? I knew this duck thing was a cover....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #149 January 12, 2007 There may be a growth of people calling themselves Christian, but if they are just attending a Christian church, that doesnt make them a "Christian".. Once the antichrist starts his dominating, and insisting on worshipping the idol/beast, many will be deceived enough to follow him. The ONLY person who can rightly call him/herself a Christian, one who has been born again of the Holy Spirit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #150 January 12, 2007 QuoteI know for absolute certainty who he is, but I have mixed feelings about giving his name, and I am not sure why these feelings exist, but they do. I will leave his name until I feel better about it. Bill So you know for absolute certainty who he is but you won't tell anyone else ... sure, we believe you. PS: I do understand what you are saying about people calling themselves Christians but not acting like Christians (or even knowing anything about Christianity). I know plenty of people who call themselves Christian and then worship celebrities, material possessions, and many other things above their God."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
