kallend 2,146 #26 January 4, 2007 QuoteQuote "The REAL problem is people like George Bush and MANY politicians and others that see themselves as VERY differen't from the "peasants." >Fixed it for ya. Haven't figured out how to drawn the lines thru the letters yet. And did I mention Clinton got a blowjob Fixed it for YOU, in turn.... The REAL problem is that, as psychologist have repeatedly shown, people are far more worried about losing something than about not gaining something even when, mathematically, these represent identical outcomes presented in different ways. Hence parties (or one of them, anyway) pander to the fear that YOUR taxes will go to feed or provide medical assistance to some underserving person poorer than you, which is perceived as a fate worse than death, never mind that overall you may be better off too. The GOP has raised this irrational fear mongering to a fine art.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 January 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote "The REAL problem is people like George Bush and MANY politicians and others that see themselves as VERY differen't from the "peasants." >Fixed it for ya. Haven't figured out how to drawn the lines thru the letters yet. And did I mention Clinton got a blowjob Fixed it for YOU, in turn.... The REAL problem is that, as psychologist have repeatedly shown, people are far more worried about losing something than about not gaining something even when, mathematically, these represent identical outcomes presented in different ways. Hence parties (or one of them, anyway) pander to the fear that YOUR taxes will go to feed or provide medical assistance to some underserving person poorer than you, which is perceived as a fate worse than death, never mind that overall you may be better off too. The GOP has raised this irrational fear mongering to a fine art. And the DNC does the same, by their false accusations about the rich not paying their fair share, and people dying in the streets if they dont take more taxes for welfare/social security/etc. As I said... they *ALL* do it....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #28 January 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteDon't forget no bank accts. But soon they'll be doing away w/ cash so.... WE ARE FUCKED. Thank god or whomever I'll be dead by then. Hopefully Anyone else notice how suspicious places are when you pay with cash nodays? They ALWAYS closely examine any bill over a $20, and they look at you like something is wrong when you pay with a $50 or higher bill. Also, anyone find it wrong that paying with cash for a plane ticket will cause you to be labeled as a possible terrorist? Hell, I had to change a reservation last year. Flew to Fl. No problemo. I always get the extra special treatment A couple days later went into MCO and payed cash for the retern ticket (reserved the day before) AND WAS ON THE FUCKIN NO FLY LIST. Fuckin assholesI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #29 January 4, 2007 Everyone should start paying for plane tickets with cash. The system would go into a tailspin. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 January 4, 2007 QuoteAnd the DNC does the same, by their false accusations about the rich not paying their fair share, and people dying in the streets if they dont take more taxes for welfare/social security/etc. I think I would rather see our PEOPLE getting the benefits of our taxes.. than to go off spending far more billions in welfare for Halliburton and other war proifiteers. Why should our administraion and DOD be dolling out millions of dollars to corrupt Iraqui's at the expense of the American people. This whole NATIONBUILDING bullshit.. needs to be done at HOME. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 January 4, 2007 I'd rather see our people not have half their paycheck taken by the almighty Nanny state, myself....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 January 4, 2007 You cant have services... and EVERYONE wants those services... you know.. roads...education... fire...police..the military for our"protection"..everyone bitches about taxes.. but EVERYONE EXPECTS.. all of those services I guess all of that should come for free??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #33 January 4, 2007 >I'd rather see our people not have half their paycheck taken by the >almighty Nanny state, myself.... Then we have to have fewer wars. The DoD is far and away our biggest expense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 January 4, 2007 QuoteYou cant have services... and EVERYONE wants those services... you know.. roads...education... fire...police..the military for our"protection"..everyone bitches about taxes.. but EVERYONE EXPECTS.. all of those services I guess all of that should come for free??? Nope...paid for by the local community... just how "welfare" was handled...by the friends/family/local communities.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 January 4, 2007 Quote>I'd rather see our people not have half their paycheck taken by the >almighty Nanny state, myself.... Then we have to have fewer wars. The DoD is far and away our biggest expense. Odd.. I've seen Health/Human services and Social Security outlays both ahead of Defense... let me see if I can find the website again...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #36 January 4, 2007 Before too long the medical costs associated with obesity will be #1 if it isn't already. The article is from 2004. http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/r040121.htm“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #37 January 4, 2007 > I've seen Health/Human services and Social Security outlays both ahead of Defense... I checked again and you're right. HHS is over $600 billion and the DoD is about $560 billion (including 'emergency' appropriations.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 January 4, 2007 But people sucking off the welfare wagon are BAD....like retirees and people who can not support themselves due to accidents and such...lts just toss em in mass graves so we dont have to spend the money. War and killing and welfare for the war profiteers... GOOOD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #39 January 4, 2007 Consider it this way - If we kept exactly the same military budget, HHS budget and deficit, and cut only the emergency war appropriations (about $140 billion) - you could immediately cut everyone's taxes by about $1000 a person, average. Alternatively, you could reduce the debt by over a hundred billion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #40 January 4, 2007 Just think how much we could save with a means test for EX-Presidents and Congress... that is one hell of a lot of millionaires getting welfare for the rest of their lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #41 January 4, 2007 QuoteConsider it this way - ....... cut only the emergency war appropriations (about $140 billion) - .......Alternatively, you could reduce the debt by over a hundred billion. Good point - that's what government does for you - give them $140B and they'll do something good with $100B and the other $40B just "disappears" Really, I like your point, pay down the debt or cut taxes for those that pay it by $1000 on average But with the current congressional lineup I'd lay money (already taken) that wouldn't happen - they'd consider it a windfall and pass some more redistribution and suddenly that $140B would just disappear in a puff of smoke. Once they take it, it never comes back. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #42 January 4, 2007 >they'd consider it a windfall and pass some more redistribution and >suddenly that $140B would just disappear in a puff of smoke. Probably correct. But I still prefer to go in the direction of reducing spending, instead of accepting this endless increase that we see now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 January 4, 2007 Uh , that was my point ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #44 January 4, 2007 How does any of this relate to the FBI tapping cellular phones again?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #45 January 4, 2007 QuoteHow does any of this relate to the FBI tapping cellular phones again? Look, Mr. T wears gold. Lots of gold. If gold is good, then you must acquit. If you acquit, then you must use an ADD. Therefore, if the glove fits, then people should fly using cash. That means that the DNC wastes our money because the RNC wastes our money and, thus loosing something is more important if you spin it that way if you are the elite political class. So, the FBI shouldn't be tapping the phones. So, If Mr T wears Gold, then you shouldn't want your phone tapped. Get it now? God I hate having to spell these things out. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #46 January 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow does any of this relate to the FBI tapping cellular phones again? Look, Mr. T wears gold. Lots of gold. If gold is good, then you must acquit. If you acquit, then you must use an ADD. Therefore, if the glove fits, then people should fly using cash. That means that the DNC wastes our money because the RNC wastes our money and, thus loosing something is more important if you spin it that way if you are the elite political class. So, the FBI shouldn't be tapping the phones. So, If Mr T wears Gold, then you shouldn't want your phone tapped. Get it now? God I hate having to spell these things out. You could moonlight as an instructor in abstract logic at your local community college.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #47 January 5, 2007 QuoteQuoteHow does any of this relate to the FBI tapping cellular phones again? Look, Mr. T wears gold. Lots of gold. If gold is good, then you must acquit. If you acquit, then you must use an ADD. Therefore, if the glove fits, then people should fly using cash. That means that the DNC wastes our money because the RNC wastes our money and, thus loosing something is more important if you spin it that way if you are the elite political class. So, the FBI shouldn't be tapping the phones. So, If Mr T wears Gold, then you shouldn't want your phone tapped. Get it now? God I hate having to spell these things out. Mr. T stopped wearing gold after Hurricane Katrina ... does that mean that I should want my phone tapped? I'm so confused. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #48 January 5, 2007 Quotean instructor in abstract logic Isn't that required use by all college professors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #49 January 5, 2007 Quoteyou could moonlight as an instructor in abstract logic at your local community college. community college only, huh? If the glove don't fit, you must acquit ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
