ChasingBlueSky 0 #1 January 2, 2007 Found this analogy interesting in light of everything going on with Iraq at the moment (Gates coming in, hitting 3,000 US deaths, Bush looking at making changes). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/timothy-naftali/bush-and-lbj_3366.html The Vietnam analogy, like all historical analogies, has its limits as a source of insight on the Iraq war. There are significant differences between the struggles, not least of which is that with the passage of 30 years military technology and advanced military medicine have reduced significantly the US death toll and therefore the war's political toll. But it still holds value as a window on the limits of presidential leadership. Then as now it was almost impossible for a president to admit any error of judgment in wartime, especially when this could call the entire enterprise into question. The cost to personal reputation, to party and to national morale was potentially staggering. What do you say to the wives, mothers and fathers of the men and women who lost their lives due to a policy failure? On February 1, 1966, while publicly defending the war, Lyndon Johnson privately told Minnesota Senator Eugene McCarthy that the war in Vietnam was a mistake, but that he was stuck. He taped this conversation and it should forever be an antidote to the fallacy that staying the course is always wise in international affairs. Staying the course makes sense, after all, when the course makes sense: President Johnson: Well I know we oughtn't to be there, but I can't get out. I just can't be the architect of surrender.... I'm willing to do damn near anything. If I told you what I was willing to do, I wouldn't have any program. [Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett] Dirksen wouldn't give me a dollar to operate the war. I just can't operate in a glass bowl with all these things. But I'm willing to do nearly anything a human can do, if I can do it with any honor at all. [You can listen to this conversation in its entirety on whitehousetapes.org, the website of the Miller Center of Public Affairs's Presidential Recordings Program] At the time the President of the United States was admitting that he had sent young men to war for the wrong reason, the comparatively small number of 2,460 had died in Vietnam. This was before a young John McCain and most of the other POWs were taken hostage; indeed before the vast majority of the horrors we now associate with Vietnam had taken place. It is staggering to reflect on the fact that another 55,733 would have to die before the US military could extricate itself from a war that its Commander-in-Chief already knew was a mistake. Put differently, when LBJ was privately admitting error, 95% of the young men who would ultimately die in Vietnam were still alive and well. Since 1973 no US president has secretly taped his conversations, so we may never know what George W. Bush actually believes about the wisdom of the current war in Iraq. Tonight we only heard defiance and determination. But certainly some Republicans and many Democrats consider it a mistake. Johnson complained in 1966 that he needed political cover to pull out of Vietnam. What he would have done had the politics been otherwise is by now a parlor game. But the role that political cover could play in ending the war in Iraq should not be. The current generation of senators and representatives might do worse than listen to the February 1966 conversation and ask themselves whether their predecessors share some of the blame for the additional lives that were lost. The more thoughtful among them might be inspired by this tough question. What would happen if both parties offered Bush the political cover to execute a dignified exit? This administration might stubbornly refuse the offer but future generations will look kindly upon those of both parties who tried to help the Bush administration get out of the Iraqi civil war sooner rather than later. These days the desire for political revenge in Washington is understandably great, but the need for statesmanship is infinitely greater_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites