Lucky... 0 #26 January 1, 2007 QuoteQuoteFinally, I am sorry to all of the heroic veterans of real wars like Vietnam, Korea, WWII, and WWI who came back missing arms and legs, confined to wheelchairs for the rest of their lives,Why? Because some of them were drafted, or they were fighting a justified war? Vietnam was considered an unjust war by the same mamby pamby leftists, who spat on soldiers coming back, and who have now attempted to throw a wrench in the works every chance they get, just because they hate our president. What about Korea? What were the communists going to do after the overran the peninsula? After all, it is a peninsula. Of course, history proves that we were right. South Korea is a flourishing, self ruling economy, and NK is a land of misery, hunger and political suppression,but why the hell should we ever care about such things as long as we have our BMWs and Starbucks. We can sit around in our short sighted, high mindedness, and talk about how things would be so much better if they'd just done it your way. QuoteVietnam was considered an unjust war by the same mamby pamby leftists,... You mean the same ones that got us into it? Quote...just because they hate our president. No, the left hate sthe war all by itself, regardless of who got us into it. Evidence of that is that it ws the Dems who got us into and kept us into VN, yet it was the most liberal who rallied against the war. You can't have it both ways. Point is, the liberals dislike teh war all by itself, even if a Clinton had us into it. QuoteWhat about Korea? That really started during Truman, so the lefties got us into that war too. QuoteOf course, history proves that we were right. South Korea is a flourishing, self ruling economy, and NK is a land of misery, hunger and political suppression,but why the hell should we ever care about such things as long as we have our BMWs and Starbucks. We can sit around in our short sighted, high mindedness, and talk about how things would be so much better if they'd just done it your way. So if you're right, it was the lefties who got us into Korea, so they did it right, right? Altho I disagree with our intervention in: - Korea - VN - Iraq Bad things happen all over the place, it is not our duty to die fixing them, especially when we are corrupt about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cumplidor 0 #27 January 1, 2007 Im not sure that we don't invade Korea for that reason. They don't have something we need they can hold over our heads (friendly, dollar based oil), nor are they a threat to Isreal (our 3 billion tax-dollar-a-year little nuke country that's not a nuke country) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 January 2, 2007 QuoteOK, but let's stop focusing on fisk and examine his speaking points. Not saying you, but radical righties seem to do that; focus on the author rather than the author's points. It's called an Ad Hominem, which is where you assassinate the author's credibility and once this has been done via the popularity poll, anything he says is garbage. When people don;t have a way to argue an issue they revert to this. You see kids do this all the time, "OK, but so are you..." Then they grow up and use the same logic. I could post Ted Kennedy's senatorial voting record and some of the things, perhaps many of them would be like the way some conservatives would vote, yet they hear his name and call him an idiot. Politics are like that, but whne philosophic argument enters this kind of logic we get no where. I don't blame those who use Ad Hominem, as they only do so due to no other argument available. If they actually had an arguing point they would certainly use that first. And of course conceding is out of the question...... Now, what were the issues? You mean like how the Left argues to emotion? "Blood in the streets!" "Old people starving in the streets!" "What about the chilllllldren???" et cetera, ad nauseamMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #29 January 2, 2007 You mean like how the Left argues to emotion? "Blood in the streets!" "Old people starving in the streets!" "What about the chilllllldren???" et cetera, ad nauseam You mean how they tend to "give a shit?" Sometimes they do seem to go a little overboard, but I'd take it any day over the other extreme. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 January 2, 2007 Quote You mean like how the Left argues to emotion? "Blood in the streets!" "Old people starving in the streets!" "What about the chilllllldren???" et cetera, ad nauseam You mean how they tend to "give a shit?" Sometimes they do seem to go a little overboard, but I'd take it any day over the other extreme. linz Those not of the Left tend to "give a shit" by contributing to the churches, food banks, charities and directly to the poor in their communities...the way it was SUPPOSED to work before the Social Security/Welfare Ponzi schemes. The Left is in favor of stealing money from yours, mine, and everyone else's paycheck to pay for "womb-to-tomb" Nanny-statism.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #31 January 2, 2007 It's situational ethics. The only kind of ethics practiced by today's governments." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #32 January 4, 2007 No one creates a dictator. No one creates a killer. No one creates a homosexual. A person creates himself and is responsible for every single action he does. Period.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
