SpeedRacer 1 #26 December 30, 2006 ick. I thought as you did. In fact, I think they even tie weights to your feet to make sure the death is quicker. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #27 December 30, 2006 Quoteick. I thought as you did. In fact, I think they even tie weights to your feet to make sure the death is quicker. With the more recent method the hangman has a table of drop distances required for different body weights to snap the neck without severing the head. There have of course been mistakes or deviations. The may add weight to some, I don't know. This is not a consideration everywhere. It was in the UK and I suspect in the USA, however it is Iraq that will implement the execution and I wouldn't wager on an instant demise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #28 December 30, 2006 QuoteI want it in high definition with actual audio not narrated, i want to hear the snap!!! Me too! But, no snap please... Death was too good for this guy, not to mention a quick death! Pull em off da ground nice and slow... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 8 #29 December 30, 2006 thats exactly why I want to see for my self, see if the numbnut bastards got it right or what. done right, drop, snap, done done wrong, shhhiiitt, any and all kind of mayhem, chokin, shittin, pissin, twichin violently, head come off.... think about it!!! any bets???........... anyone???if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #30 December 30, 2006 From an article on Drudge. "A U.S. judge on Friday refused to stop Saddam's execution, rejecting a last-minute court challenge" Can anyone explain to me why a U.S judge would have any say in this matter? Other than our puppet govt is involved.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #31 December 30, 2006 QuoteFrom an article on Drudge. "A U.S. judge on Friday refused to stop Saddam's execution, rejecting a last-minute court challenge" Can anyone explain to me why a U.S judge would have any say in this matter? Other than our puppet govt is involved. The U.S. judge clearly had no say, so your point is moot. You can't stop people shopping any old crap before a judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #32 December 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteFrom an article on Drudge. "A U.S. judge on Friday refused to stop Saddam's execution, rejecting a last-minute court challenge" Can anyone explain to me why a U.S judge would have any say in this matter? Other than our puppet govt is involved. The U.S. judge clearly had no say, so your point is moot. You can't stop people shopping any old crap before a judge.Then why was the case before him?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 8 #33 December 30, 2006 Then why was the case before him? some tree hugger who knows????if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #34 December 30, 2006 Quotechokin, shittin, pissin, twichin violently, head come off.... think about it!!! Still too good for that guy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #35 December 30, 2006 QuoteThen why was the case before him? some tree hugger who knows????Hey. I like trees. Was that a PA?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #36 December 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteFrom an article on Drudge. "A U.S. judge on Friday refused to stop Saddam's execution, rejecting a last-minute court challenge" Can anyone explain to me why a U.S judge would have any say in this matter? Other than our puppet govt is involved. The U.S. judge clearly had no say, so your point is moot. You can't stop people shopping any old crap before a judge.Then why was the case before him? Because Saddam's lawyers were desperate for any kind of last minute Hail Mary ruling. It's possible they filed a brief challenging the legality of the US to turn over a war criminal. Perhaps contending since SH was in US custody the US had an obligation to protect him. They also could have been looking for Political Asylum in the US. Who knows what desperate people will do. Obviously, it went nowhere. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 8 #37 December 30, 2006 nah bud, shit, did i say trees, i'm fukin loaded papa!if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #38 December 30, 2006 QuoteIt's possible they filed a brief challenging the legality of the US to turn over a war criminal. IIRC from the news reports, his attorneys filed paperwork stating to kill him was a violation of his civil rights, inasmuch as he would, subsequent to death, be unable to answer the civil charges filed against him in a US court (in DC, again IIRC). That's why a US judge, and that's what the claim was. It went nowhere, but you've got to give the attorneys points for...c"reativity" borne of desperation. As for those who are anxious to watch the video of someone's death, frankly, I find that apalling and disgusting. 'Course, you're welcome to your own opinion and own life...but I find it pretty sick. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 December 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt's possible they filed a brief challenging the legality of the US to turn over a war criminal. IIRC from the news reports, his attorneys filed paperwork stating to kill him was a violation of his civil rights, inasmuch as he would, subsequent to death, be unable to answer the civil charges filed against him in a US court (in DC, again IIRC). That's why a US judge, and that's what the claim was. It went nowhere, but you've got to give the attorneys points for...c"reativity" borne of desperation. As for those who are anxious to watch the video of someone's death, frankly, I find that apalling and disgusting. 'Course, you're welcome to your own opinion and own life...but I find it pretty sick. Ciels- Michele I personally have no desire to see video of anyone dying unless there is something to be learned from it. I suppose internet sites like Ogrish and videos like Faces of Death exist to feed this death fetish. Guess we are about to be flamed for being judgemental again, eh? FWIW I disagreed with executing him. I thought life in prison would have been a more appropriate sentence. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #40 December 30, 2006 I am for the death penalty. However, it disturbs me to read posts taking pleasure in the execution of a man. You should feel nothing for the person being executed or the execution itself. If you feel anything, it should be sadness, that mankind still cannot live in peace. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #41 December 30, 2006 QuoteGuess we are about to be flamed for being judgemental again, eh? It's all good - we were stating what we feel. If someone can't handle that, well...hey, I can handle heat. So can you. Life will, as usual, continue. And I didn't mean to imply that you were the one(s) who were salivating to watch the video of his death...if you thought that, I apologize. Have a Happy and Blessed New Year! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #42 December 30, 2006 Spot on. Great post mate (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #43 December 30, 2006 I think if people don't actually see footage of his death there will always be a doubt. We dont want eye witness accounts, we want to see him swing until he takes his last breath. Life is sick and brutal sometimes and he certainly wasn't any exception to this. We all want to know, for sure, that he is dead. That means seeing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #44 December 30, 2006 QuoteI am for the death penalty. However, it disturbs me to read posts taking pleasure in the execution of a man. You should feel nothing for the person being executed or the execution itself. If you feel anything, it should be sadness, that mankind still cannot live in peace. Sounds like a default position to me. Let's be honest. The man, himself, relished watching videos of his ordered executions. I'm with one of the Iraqis who now lives in this country, who somehow lived through a mass execution. They should have hung him in the street, and left him hang so that people could throw rocks at him. They could turn it into a once in a lifetime pilgrimage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #45 December 30, 2006 QuoteVery cool. I am glad to see this over, lets hope we can start to get our troops home now but that will not happen with dick head Busch in office and I voted for him too. Dream onWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #46 December 30, 2006 Looking at the pictures from the gallows Sadam had a long drop hanging. The size and placement of the coils would have placed a lateral force on his neck, the rope was measured to break the odontoid peg of C2 which due to the force would spin up through the foramen magnum (hole at the base of the skull) macerating the mid brain on its way. In the unlikely event of the neck not breaking the force of the large coil striking the side of his head would certainly have knocked him unconcious. He would almost certainly have been dead when his body checked on the rope. I thought he got what he deserved, I don't take any joy in his death and I don't think it will make any difference in Iraq (at least nothing positive) I also think he took it like a man.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #47 December 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteFrom an article on Drudge. "A U.S. judge on Friday refused to stop Saddam's execution, rejecting a last-minute court challenge" Can anyone explain to me why a U.S judge would have any say in this matter? Other than our puppet govt is involved. The U.S. judge clearly had no say, so your point is moot. You can't stop people shopping any old crap before a judge.Then why was the case before him? It was put before a US judge because at the time Sadam was in US custody. The motion to the judge was to prevent him being transfered to Iraqi custody.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #48 December 30, 2006 DitoWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #49 December 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteI am for the death penalty. However, it disturbs me to read posts taking pleasure in the execution of a man. You should feel nothing for the person being executed or the execution itself. If you feel anything, it should be sadness, that mankind still cannot live in peace. Sounds like a default position to me. Let's be honest. The man, himself, relished watching videos of his ordered executions. I'm with one of the Iraqis who now lives in this country, who somehow lived through a mass execution. They should have hung him in the street, and left him hang so that people could throw rocks at him. They could turn it into a once in a lifetime pilgrimage. Is that the kind of Iraq that over three thousand Soldiers died to try and build?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #50 December 30, 2006 They should have hung him in the street, and left him hang so that people could throw rocks at him. They could turn it into a once in a lifetime pilgrimage. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteIs that the kind of Iraq that over three thousand Soldiers died to try and build? Some people do not deserve dignity in their death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
