Should women serve in combat?

[Skyrad 0]

What a farce. Only one woman Captain Phillippa Tattersall has ever passed the Royal Marine Commando Course and she did it properly with the same standards as the men. She is not however allowed to serve in front line combat duties.

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What a farce.

Unnn, which one?

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Why not? I thought men and women were the EXACT same? Blah blah blah.

The people who say that are just being silly (though some of them actually believe it). Men and women are of approximately equal value, but they are also substantially different from each other.

If I had the task of repopulating the world from a group of 100 people, I'd want to start with about 67 women and 33 men. Those guys would be some browbeaten poor saps whose only jobs would be to hunt, defend, and move heavy objects, but they'd each have 2 women to screw (one would have three), so they'd be happy. The women would be in absolute bliss (though admitting the exact opposite) over the amount of competition.

Blues,
Dave

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Why not? I thought men and women were the EXACT same? Blah blah blah.

The people who say that are just being silly (though some of them actually believe it). Men and women are of approximately equal value, but they are also substantially different from each other.

If I had the task of repopulating the world from a group of 100 people, I'd want to start with about 67 women and 33 men. Those guys would be some browbeaten poor saps whose only jobs would be to hunt, defend, and move heavy objects, but they'd each have 2 women to screw (one would have three), so they'd be happy. The women would be in absolute bliss (though admitting the exact opposite) over the amount of competition.

Blues,
Dave

Actually, what would happen is what happens in nature among most other species: the strongest and/or most cunning males would dominate and/or eliminate the other males for the right to mate and pass their genes on to the next generation.

That's why 100,000 years from now humans will be born with built-in pocket protectors in their chests.

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3. foolish show; mockery; a ridiculous sham.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Do women in the USMC have the same standards to achive as the men? ie: Fitness and so on, same times to do things in same heights to climb?

Don't know but when I was in boot camp for the Army in 1987 there were different standards and I thought it was all to easy.

Now I understand it is even easier...

I went to Navy boot camp in 1986, and recently took the online tour of how it is today (or at least how it was 2-3 years ago). I realized I'm getting old when I was amazed by how easy kids have it today.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[Skyrad 0]

We sayy the same thing over here, most likely every Armed service in the world says the same thing about those that join up today..... Still it is true

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Bush twins first.

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Bush twins first.

Of course...everyone should be able to act on their own free will and conscience... EXCEPT those damn Republicans, right?

Mike
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Bush twins first.

Of course...everyone should be able to act on their own free will and conscience... EXCEPT those damn Republicans, right?

I think you missed the larger point.

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Bush twins first.

Of course...everyone should be able to act on their own free will and conscience... EXCEPT those damn Republicans, right?

I think you missed the larger point.

No, I didn't miss the whole "chickenhawk" bullshit that y'all like to pull.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Bush twins first.

what he said.

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Do women in the USMC have the same standards to achive as the men? ie: Fitness and so on, same times to do things in same heights to climb?

When it comes to the PFT (physical fitness test)...no.

Everything else.... yes.

Do FMs (female marines) serve on the front lines?... no.

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[Darius11 12]

I agree with you. But try to say woman should not be in a combat unit and see how many women and the guys who are ready to kiss their ass (regardless of facts) will attack you.
So in this shitty PC world which we have created the best way to keep woman out of the areas where they shouldn’t be is hold them to the same physical standard.

Same for things like The NFL. Why aren’t women in the NFL? Simple they can not compete and will not be able to do a good job, and will be a risk to them self and there teammates.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I have no problem with ANYONE serving on the front lines as long as they can hoist an average weighted (approx 250 pounds with gear) soldier/marine over their shoulder utilizing the fireman carry method, grab both of their weapons, and run for cover. If not, I don't care whether they are male, female, or martian....they shouldn;t be there.

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[shropshire 0]

<> - Where do the boys get the cups of tea from then?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Tea? Dude... Marines eat nails. What the fuck is this tea you mention?

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[Skyrad 0]

ROFLMAO

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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I think that combat stress/fatigue would be more pronounced in women, as a whole. Obviously, I don't have any hard info - this is all solely my opinion, as to the effects of combat.

I used to be on the fence with this, then the Cole got hit. The women did very well there and some of them were credited to actually being responsible for saving the ship. At least now we know they can work around the gore of their fallen shipmates and do complex Damage Control in an extreme amount of stress, But I'm still wondering about Infantry.

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and we wouldn't want to be naughty now would we?

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[shropshire 0]

Heaven forbid.... now drink your tea.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[kbordson 8]

a LOT of conflicting thoughts with this issue.

Part of me is annoyed and thinking "DONT TELL ME WHAT I CAN OR CANT DO." ..... the other part recognized the conflict that it could cause.

When I was in high school... that was actually a topic that I chose in forensics and debate.... But, I still don't know the answer.

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Do women in the USMC have the same standards to achive as the men? ie: Fitness and so on, same times to do things in same heights to climb?

Don't know but when I was in boot camp for the Army in 1987 there were different standards and I thought it was all to easy.

Now I understand it is even easier...

I went to Navy boot camp in 1986, and recently took the online tour of how it is today (or at least how it was 2-3 years ago). I realized I'm getting old when I was amazed by how easy kids have it today.

Blues,
Dave

I did Navy boot camp in 78. Cake walk compared to the real world. Can't imagine today. Are they that desperate nowadays?

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[Royd 0]

I stole this from Rush.

We could make a unit of man hating lesbians. Since women who spend time together seem to go on their period at the same time, at that point we put them whereever we need the most damage done, and watch out.