The Draft

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Following several articles like this

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20122006/140/bush-plans-boost-size-army.html

I wondered if it was a real possibility that the USA would bring back the draft. Would you support it? Would you go? Is the war on Iraq lost? Would it be a futile sacrifice?

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Playing "chess" here for a moment . . . not an actual prediction.

The Republicans will F things up so much that a draft will be required, but won't call for one while GWB is in office.

The Democrats will win the next election, but will be forced to call up the Draft, which would mean they'd then lose 2012.

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[Skyrad 0]

Would they not be more likely to withdraw the troops and blame the loosing of the war on the Republicans?

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Would they not be more likely to withdraw the troops and blame the loosing of the war on the Republicans?

There's still two years to go for the Republicans to make it an intractable situation; something we simply wouldn't be able to quickly pull out of.

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[Skyrad 0]

Do you think that the Army can find the troops required for the next two years to meet its commitments without a draft?

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Do you think that the Army can find the troops required for the next two years to meet its commitments without a draft?

We already have folks on their 3rd tour.

There's no reason in my mind why the military couldn't simply call up more reservists (other than the F-all evil of it) and maintain the status quo.

It's not like the system isn't already being abused. My guess is that it will just continue to be abused a little more.

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[Royd 0]

Those who voted that the war is lost are probably the same ones who leave the stadium in the third quarter when their team is down 28-14.

[Skyrad 0]

So you are now CiC. What would you do to turn the war?

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Those who voted that the war is lost are probably the same ones who leave the stadium in the third quarter when their team is down 28-14.

Those that don't want to leave Iraq at this point are the same types of people that won't leave a craps table when they're losing.

(Did we really think a game metaphor was the answer and couldn't be easily countered?)

But let's continue shall we?

At this point, we've now lost more lives in Iraq than on 9/11 and we've charged our children about $353 billion so far for it.

Yeah . . . let's keep it going by all means . . . we're clearly winning!

Also see;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usiraqpoliticsreport

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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Those who voted that the war is lost are probably the same ones who leave the stadium in the third quarter when their team is down 28-14.

Unless the manager sends the large but incompetant players arround to take up a collection to hire a better coach, watching the loosing game to completion doesn't cost you anything.

When you buy stock at $10 a share and it falls to $5 a share with no correction in sight, it's better to walk away with a $5 a share loss than to wait until the stock gets delisted at $1 a share at which point you have a $9 loss.

[Skyrad 0]

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Those who voted that the war is lost are probably the same ones who leave the stadium in the third quarter when their team is down 28-14.

Those that don't want to leave Iraq at this point are the same types of people that won't leave a craps table when they're losing.

(Did we really think a game metaphor was the answer and couldn't be easily countered?)

But let's continue shall we?

At this point, we've now lost more lives in Iraq than on 9/11 and we've charged our children about $353 billion so far for it.

Yeah . . . let's keep it going by all means . . . we're clearly winning!

Also see;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usiraqpoliticsreport

Britan has just finished paying off what it owed (and then some) the US and Canada for the whole of WWII

Britain borrowed a total of $4.3 billion from the United States in 1945, followed in 1946 by a loan of $1.2 billion from Canada -- both at an interest rate of just two percent.

During World War Two, the United States effectively gave Britain billions of dollars worth of goods under the lend-lease programme.

But that abruptly ended in September 1945 despite the fact Britain was on its knees economically after six years of warfare.

Despite the heavily discounted rate of interest on the loans, in the intervening years Britain has failed to make any payments on six occasions because of balance of payments problems -- in 1956, 1957, 1964, 1965, 1968 and 1976.

To date the country has paid a total of $7.5 billion to the United States and $2 billion to Canada.


Thats peanuts compared to what the USA has spent and will continue to spend in Iraq. How much will be payed for by the American people and how much by the Iraqi's?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[SpeedRacer 1]

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Playing "chess" here for a moment . . . not an actual prediction.

The Republicans will F things up so much that a draft will be required, but won't call for one while GWB is in office.

The Democrats will win the next election, but will be forced to call up the Draft, which would mean they'd then lose 2012.

That's a very interesting post. Today
I was listening to this radio show where they interviewed this historian who had written a book about the Roman Empire.

One thing he noted was that there was a lot of political bickering, which was one of many factors leading to the Roman Empire's eventual fall. A given politician would rather see a problem carry on, than have an opposing politician solve it & thereby take credit.

Makes you think, doesn't it ?

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[Andy9o8 3]

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To date [Britain] has paid a total of $7.5 billion to the United States and $2 billion to Canada. Thats peanuts compared to what the USA has spent and will continue to spend in Iraq.

True, but it does explain why Brits all have bad teeth. It's all clear now.

[Skyrad 0]

Crap! There's nothing wrong with my teeth... Either of them!

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[shropshire 0]

I thought that half of those had now fallen out.... Is that why they call you 'Juanita'










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[Skyrad 0]

Only at the weekends

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[akarunway 1]

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To date [Britain] has paid a total of $7.5 billion to the United States and $2 billion to Canada. Thats peanuts compared to what the USA has spent and will continue to spend in Iraq.

True, but it does explain why Brits all have bad teeth. It's all clear now.

You mean the poor taxpayers of the US, correct? The ones that have no say in govt. anymore unless you have BIG BUCKS

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Skyrad 0]

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/06/22/a_military_draft_might_awaken_us/

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