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Excellent shooting gun, had a slight amount more muzzle flip than the G19's that I have shot (their weight is distributed a little differently). Grip position is slightly different. Grip safety is a nice thought, but after shooting it for a while and shooting other weapons with no external safeties, you realize how useless it really is.



I rented an XD .40 because I am/was interested in buying one. I thought the grip safety was a bit novel too until I realized there is no decocker. Double action only!
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The C models perform fairly well. The downside is that the ported gases pushing up can be dangerous. If you fire from high compressed or low ready you'll get some pretty good burns.

Its really cool to take the top of an ammo box and watch it blow into confetti from the ports.

Beyond that a 22C has even less muzzle flip then the 17 with a light load. But then again, it only matters if you have bad recoil control.
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I will be home on the 10th somewhere between then and me having to go back to work we are doing the following.

Jeff, Jason, Douva and myself: Range all day for some skeet and target practice. Kim teaches Alicia, Whit, and (one of Douvas many) some artistic dance moves while were at the range. After a long day of shooting we will arrive home for beverages and a show.B|





It sounds like such a good plan but i know they wouldn't let us go to the range without them:D:D



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(please dont get this moved to the SC;))



I thought that exactly where Gun threads were meant to be?:|


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I have been issued and carried several different handguns over the past 11 years and I have to say I like the Glocks the best. I am currently issued a Glock 21 and I carry a Glock 26 for off duty and UC work. I have also carried the Glock 19 in the past which is a great weapon also. I cannot ever remember a malfunction that wasn't caused by reload ammo.

There is NO problem with the safety mechanism, if you are properly trained (keep your finger off the trigger) the gun won't fire.;)

I have fired the "C" models but I don't really think they are necessary in my opinion.
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Im still looking for a new pistol. Anyone have any experience with the springfield XD????



I'm not a fan of the Glock b/c after trying out several different models, none of them fit my hand.The grip just isnt angled enough to be comfortable for me.

I like the XD.It performs well,is very easy to field strip and is just a nice little gun.I had a Springfield XD .40 Service Model (4inch barrel).It was a nice gun, very accurate and performed well.All the XD models have a tight,almost competition barrel so if you're a reloader (I/my hubby are) then you really have to make sure you have a good sizing die etc. so the reloads dont jam.

I dont have the .40 anymore but I now have a Springfield XD .45GAP and I really enjoy it.It fits my hand better than the .40 did b/c the .40 was chunky around the grip,being a DS magazine whereas the .45GAP is a SS magazine.I doubt most guys would have the problem I did b/c I have smallish hands and thus the grip size is important to me.My only peeve about the .45GAP is that it has a loooong trigger pull.But, that can be easily fixed with a trip to the gunsmith.One of the downsides to the GAP though is the availability of ammo.Its still relatively 'new' to the mainstream and so not as many retailers carry the GAP ammo.But, if you're a reloader its not as big a problem.Just pick up your brass and do it yourself.

The biggest peeve I have about the XD is that the springs in the magazine are hard enough you could put them on a truck! It takes alot of effort (even for my hubby) to load the magazines.Even after about 1K rounds+ they're still real hard.Ofcourse,with time the more rounds you put through it the easier they become to load.Its just a PIA in the beginning.

Although I enjoy the XD GAP I'm still a 1911 fan.I'm still waiting on my CC permit from the state so I'm still debating which I'd carry.As much as I like my XD, I LOVE my Norinco 1911A1 .45ACP even if it might be a bit harder to conceal.

There are a few maunfactures out there that are putting the GAP on a 1911 frame,which perks my interest.I know Para Ordinance is one of them.Their "carry GAP" puts the GAP on a 1911 DA w/a 3inch barrel.If I had the $ I'd probably pick one up.

ok, theres my $.02:)


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There is NO problem with the safety mechanism, if you are properly trained (keep your finger off the trigger) the gun won't fire.;)



Thats what i was thinking. I was taught dont point your firearm at anything you dont intend to kill, and never put your finger on the trigger until your going to pull it.


Thanks for all the feedback guys


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I will be home on the 10th somewhere between then and me having to go back to work we are doing the following.



Fine with me, however i lied, i don't have the 226 anymore, i am currently using my 239;)

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Thats what i was thinking. I was taught dont point your firearm at anything you dont intend to kill, and never put your finger on the trigger until your going to pull it.



Exactly right. What Freeflir29 said is also right. Unfortunately the average Joe is not that disciplined (cops included) and there are always more AD's with Glocks because there is no double action for the first round.[:/]
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I have plans to do that as soon as i get home. Im still looking for a new pistol. Anyone have any experience with the springfield XD????

Vskydiver has one, XD-9, she carries that now instead of her Glock 19. Likes the trigger and grip much better, but it all boils down to personal preference. Check them out. They now come in 3" barrels too.

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The biggest peeve I have about the XD is that the springs in the magazine are hard enough you could put them on a truck! It takes alot of effort (even for my hubby) to load the magazines.Even after about 1K rounds+ they're still real hard.

I find the XD mags easier than the glock mags, although both are pretty briskly sprung. Also, the thumb operated loader that we own fits both magazines.:)

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Vskydiver has one, XD-9, she carries that now instead of her Glock 19. Likes the trigger and grip much better, but it all boils down to personal preference. Check them out. They now come in 3" barrels too.



A good 1911 is better in all measure when compared to the XD or a Glock.

Although Glocks have been good to me.
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Excellent shooting gun, had a slight amount more muzzle flip than the G19's that I have shot (their weight is distributed a little differently). Grip position is slightly different. Grip safety is a nice thought, but after shooting it for a while and shooting other weapons with no external safeties, you realize how useless it really is.



I rented an XD .40 because I am/was interested in buying one. I thought the grip safety was a bit novel too until I realized there is no decocker. Double action only!



The implementation on the HK P7 works very well for me, does decock. Forcing the grip to pull the safety (you can then let up) also seems to result in a good grip in terms of accuracy for me.

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A good 1911 is better in all measure when compared to the XD or a Glock.

Weight? I think the polymer Glocks and XD's are lighter for CC than most metal framed 1911's. But yes, I like the triggers much better on a good single action semi auto. My own carry is still the SIG .40 with DA/SA action.

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Weight? I think the polymer Glocks and XD's are lighter for CC than most metal framed 1911's.



Depends on the model and manufacture. Kimber has some of the pro-carry models that weigh about as much as a G27 (or similar).

http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/compactprocarry/

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My own carry is still the SIG .40 with DA/SA action.



Good choice. I don't personally like SIG's offerings, but that has to do with grip fit (even with aftermarket accessories) when compared to other weapons.

A 1911 fits my hands the best, a Glock is second. Its purely a personal choice for that.
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A good 1911 is better in all measure when compared to the XD or a Glock.



I agree.Like I said earlier, I like my XD but I LOVE my 1911. If it werent for its weight I'd definitely CC it.Right now I'm torn or which I want to carry.The XD has weight/size going for it as a good CCW but I'm alot more familiar/accurate/comfortable with my 1911 just b/c I've had it longer and put more rounds through it.


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I think the Glocks are better overall guns than the 1911...



Blasphemy!

Get a rope.



I carry a 1911 and love it. I look at the 1911 versus Glock debate like the AR-15 versus Kalashnikov debate--Both guns have their pros and cons.

I call the Glock the superior firearm because it can take more abuse than the 1911, and in my book that's a big plus. I'm not saying that I neglect my guns--I don't--But I like the idea of knowing that a carry gun is going to fire no matter what kind of hell I've put it through.

At the same time, I do love the multiple safeties on my 1911. My finger is never on the trigger unless I'm ready to fire, but still, when I'm carrying cocked and locked and pointed at my cock, I like knowing that all those safeties are standing between that .45 Glasser Safety Slug and my fun parts.

For a while I was debating whether to replace my 1911 with a Glock or have it accurized. I recently decided I'm going to get it accurized. It currently shoots a little loose for my tastes, but it's a great gun, and I've been carrying it for so long that I'm really not interested in making the transition to anything else.

As for Bryan's suggestion of a day of shooting for the guys and erotic dancing lessons for the girls, that sounds good to me. If I can't scrounge up a girl for the dancing lessons, I'll just fill both rolls myself. ;)
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