kallend 2,182
QuoteQuoteClearly you are tryng to foist the blame on Katrina, but (a) the stats are not for 2005
, (b) even before Katrina, Houston's homicide rate was higher than Chicago's.
I assume you have seen Houston's population in person.
Kinda reminds me of Memphis and East St.Louis.
Yes I have.
Have you been to Cabrini Green?
Not since I gave up 'bangin.
I have been places far worse than that, I am sorry to have to admit it.
JohnRich 4
QuoteQuoteQuoteAccording to the latest FBI report.
I thought CCW was supposed to bring violent crime down.
Are you concluding that CCW causes crime to go up?
If so, then please explain how crime had gone down every year for the last 12 years or so, to a low not seen since the 1960's, while CCW spread across the nation and is now the law in over 40 states.
And if not, then please explain why you commented about CCW in relation to this one-year upturn.
Are you going to claim that CCW had nothing to do with the crime drop over the previous 12 years, but now suddenly it is responsible for a one-year upturn?
Or are you just trying to confuse the gullible public again with incorrect attributions because you hate guns?
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Ahhh, the usual non-responsive response from kallend. I can see that you're still not interested in serious discussion - only in being evasive and spreading disinformation. You're failure to answer my questions is noted, along with your failure to provide any analysis of what you posted, and your failure to state any position on what the change means. Of course you have to ignore my questions, because the correct factual answers would destroy the false impressions you're trying to give people here. All the usual from you. Blah blah blah...
kallend 2,182
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAccording to the latest FBI report.
I thought CCW was supposed to bring violent crime down.
Are you concluding that CCW causes crime to go up?
If so, then please explain how crime had gone down every year for the last 12 years or so, to a low not seen since the 1960's, while CCW spread across the nation and is now the law in over 40 states.
And if not, then please explain why you commented about CCW in relation to this one-year upturn.
Are you going to claim that CCW had nothing to do with the crime drop over the previous 12 years, but now suddenly it is responsible for a one-year upturn?
Or are you just trying to confuse the gullible public again with incorrect attributions because you hate guns?
Someone on here
Ahhh, the usual non-responsive response from kallend. I can see that you're still not interested in serious discussion - only in being evasive and spreading disinformation. You're failure to answer my questions is noted, along with your failure to provide any analysis of what you posted, and your failure to state any position on what the change means. Of course you have to ignore my questions, because the correct factual answers would destroy the false impressions you're trying to give people here. All the usual from you. Blah blah blah...
I gave you my actual opinion and you cut it out of your reply and then accused me of not answering. You need to try harder than that.
However, the real cause is no doubt the 55% CUT in the federal crime fighting budget and assistance to the states and cities under Bush.
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Cudlo 0
Violent crime down in Chicago eh? Well, I guess when they started moving the low income population out into shitty suburbs like Maywood it actually did something other than make way for new condos. "Chicago's low income suburbs, the new Australia!"
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kallend 2,182
QuoteViolent crime down in Chicago eh? Well, I guess when they started moving the low income population out into shitty suburbs like Maywood it actually did something other than make way for new condos. "Chicago's low income suburbs, the new Australia!"
Low income people have been moving to the suburbs for over 30 years. You need a new theory.
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The sad part is the super libs dont understand what bringing concealed weapons licences does. It makes life a card game. The upstanding citizen has a bluff possible. Criminals know that concealed weapons licence are easily available to non felons. that way they have to think befire they attempt a physical crime. Does this guy have a weapon? can he shoot back? Now whre not, say Camden, NJ, the criminal knows you would not chance having a concealed weapon and doing automatic 5 years,,so,,he mugs you. I wish these super libs would get a life or get mugged so they could actually comprehend that.
EDIT: I almost forgot...its out of the question to add southwestern states in if crimes go up..they have a seroius illegal problem..all they have to do is go back across the border if they commit a violent crime.
EDIT: I almost forgot...its out of the question to add southwestern states in if crimes go up..they have a seroius illegal problem..all they have to do is go back across the border if they commit a violent crime.
mnealtx 0
QuoteChicago is 40% bigger than Houston, the Houston homicide rate per 100,000 pop. is 40% greater than Chicago's. Houston's homicides went up 29% last year. Chicago's went down 4.3%.
Clearly you are tryng to foist the blame on Katrina, but (a) the stats are not for 2005
Not "foisting" anything... but maybe you should have done a bit more research, yourself...
QuoteInflux of Katrina refugees tied to Houston crime rise
October 22, 2006
HOUSTON (AP) -- Refugees from Hurricane Katrina have contributed to an increase in Houston's annual homicide rate, which could climb this year to its highest level in more than a decade, police said.
Houston had 316 homicides as of Tuesday. That's a 25-percent increase from the 252 slayings tallied at this time last year, putting the city on pace to record nearly 400 killings before the end of this year.
"We recognize that the homicide rate is up as far as raw numbers and as well as percentages relative to the population," Capt. Dwayne Ready said. "We also recognize that Katrina evacuees continue to have an impact on the murder rate."
When Katrina swamped New Orleans last year, 250,000 persons fled to Houston. As many as 150,000 hurricane refugees remain in the city.
Houston's homicide rate has been much higher in the past, especially 1981, when the city was dubbed the nation's murder capital with 701 slayings. Even if the city reaches 400 homicides, Capt. Ready said, "it's not a bleak picture."
At least 65 slayings in 2006 have been classified as Katrina-related, meaning either the victim, suspect or both evacuated to Houston after Katrina. Police have not kept records of how refugees have affected crime rates other than homicide.
The murder rate began to rise at the end of last year, when the city recorded 334 homicides. During the previous decade, Houston never exceeded the 316 slayings counted in 1995.
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rushmc 23
Good points and good ideas except for one thing. Super libs have guns in these areas, and if they do not they have someone with them that do carry guns. Rosie O'Donnall comes to mind as one example. The gun owners Californial friend Ms Feinstein is another great example of that same BS.
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kallend 2,182
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At least 65 slayings in 2006 have been classified as Katrina-related, meaning either the victim, suspect or both evacuated to Houston after Katrina. Police have not kept records of how refugees have affected crime rates other than homicide.
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So you count it as due to Katrina when only the VICTIM is evacuee? Well, OK, but it sounds like the "He made me do it" defense.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuote
At least 65 slayings in 2006 have been classified as Katrina-related, meaning either the victim, suspect or both evacuated to Houston after Katrina. Police have not kept records of how refugees have affected crime rates other than homicide.
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So you count it as due to Katrina when only the VICTIM is evacuee? Well, OK, but it sounds like the "He made me do it" defense.
Sorta like when a criminal breaks into a house, huh?
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kallend 2,182
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At least 65 slayings in 2006 have been classified as Katrina-related, meaning either the victim, suspect or both evacuated to Houston after Katrina. Police have not kept records of how refugees have affected crime rates other than homicide.
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So you count it as due to Katrina when only the VICTIM is evacuee? Well, OK, but it sounds like the "He made me do it" defense.
Sorta like when a criminal breaks into a house, huh?
So when a visitor to any city is murdered, that should not be counted?
Why are all these Louisianans so dangerous anyway, don't they have CCW in Louisiana?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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craddock 0
Here goes Kallend again bragging about the very controversial decline of murders in Chicago. There has been much made of faulty reports and the accidental death classifications over the last few years in Chicago. Living in the Chicagoland area the last several years, I have heard many reports of Family members claiming there loved ones murder was classified as an accidental death.
For those outside the Chicagoland area check out this clip for a sample of what is really going on here.
http://cbs2chicago.com/video?id=27651@wbbm.dayport.com
For those outside the Chicagoland area check out this clip for a sample of what is really going on here.
http://cbs2chicago.com/video?id=27651@wbbm.dayport.com
That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.
I assume you have seen Houston's population in person.
Kinda reminds me of Memphis and East St.Louis.
Yes I have.
Have you been to Cabrini Green?
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